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Game Thread: Reds at Brewers (2013.09.14)

I really hate Milwaukee!  I do not like beer, I was never a big fan of Laverne and Shirley, and I really hate the Brewers.  Playing this team 250 times* a season has really gotten old!  Losing to them at this point in the season is really bad.

Discuss the game here Reds fan and share in my dislike for everything Milwaukee!

*Maybe a slight exaggeration

227 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds at Brewers (2013.09.14)

  1. “It’s in our best interest to finish above .500 on the road, especially during this race,” Baker said.

      • @pmedwards:
        Maybe you have been partaking in your one true love a bit early. I would not be right there with you if I did not have to stain a deck or an evening to make it to.
        Lets make a pact to ban all Miller products until the Reds get another series win against this team.

  2. There are no excuses, the Reds true ace going today against a rookie who they have already rocked up this year. His last start was a success, against that stupid team where he gave up more HR’s than K’s, walked 3.
    Time to wake up, let’s see some hustle

  3. Adding to our League lead in sacrifices versus a pitcher with an ERA of ~9. Very nice.

  4. Whether called by the bench or Brandon did it on his own, that bunt was horrible. We don’t deserve to be successful doing stuff like that.

    • @Eric the Red:
      Is your point that we are getting what we deserve, or that we do not deserve to be in the decent spot we are in with the terrible strategy.

      I amsure I agree with your point because it is just plain bad baseball to bunt in that situation

  5. This SHOULD be an easy win for the Reds. Beyond the pitching matchup, no Lucroy and no Ramirez in the Brewers lineup. Khris Davis, Reds killer, is back from an injury and batting cleanup. He hit a HR off Homer in the game he hit two two-run homers to beat the Reds – I say Homer handles him today.

  6. Are they seriously bunting your 100+ RBI man after a lead off double.
    This is not Kershaw, team playing scared

      • @CharlotteNCRedsFan:
        I know, but does it not feel like the bunts have gotten out of hand the past month or am I just being nit-picky…
        considering the pitcher, what just happened, and who is coming up…
        cannot see the game, was it a clear sacrifice or did it appear BP was bunting to get on base ala Cingranni?

    • @vicferrari:
      I hate being a downer when something good is happening, but what a dumb bunt there, probably forces Votto to change his strategy

    • @vicferrari:Absolutely, but does this tell you that perhaps Phillips is not able to consistently swing the bat? Is this an injury issue?

  7. That sacrifice is looking worse and worse. I’m pretty sure Brandon did it on his own. (BTW, yes, Ludwick got a hit on the second pitch. But he once again swung at the first pitch in a situation where patience was a virtue.)

    • @Eric the Red: And Cozart made his out on a ball. Have to let this pitcher walk people. On the other hand, I don’t mind Frazer’s swinging at a first pitch fast ball right down the pipe in his situation, where a 2 out hit meant more than a walk (i.e. a second run) and a fast ball right over is Frazer’s pitch.

  8. I can’t believe BP would bunt on his own in that situation where he could otherwise drive in a run with a hit. Baker has called for the bunt in that situation all year.

    • @Steve Mancuso: We can’t be sure. When he’s batting 2nd, Brandon will sac bunt on his own and come back with a big smile. He’s sac bunted a runner to 3rd on his own before, a couple of times last year. It’s a problem with having him bat second.

    • @Steve Mancuso: I can. Brandon likes to kind of show off ” Look! I behave differently when I’m batting in the 2-hole.” I love the guy as a baseball player, but that’s the way things looked to me. Also, I’m down on Dusty but it’s hard for me to believe even he would have called that with this situation/pitcher. Hopefully it won’t matter since we can be pretty sure the media won’t ask so we’ll never know.

      • P@Eric the Red: Odds: Dusty – 90%, BP -10%. Baker would put on a bunt, in a heartbeat, in the situation. No competent MLB hitter should want to bunt with that opportunity.

      • @Eric the Red: You’re absolutely right about that. It’s beyond showing off though. BP deeply believes in the traditional lineup “roles”.
        He said that as a cleanup hitter the only stat that matters is RBIs. And batting second, he has said, is about moving runners along, even if it means sacrificing yourself.

        And yes he is proud of his bunting skills and likes to show them off.

        • @pinson343: PS Not saying that BP did bunt on his own in that situation. We don’t know yet. I can easily believe Dusty would put the bunt on, “to get a run and take the lead”. My point is that if Dusty didn’t out it on, BP might do it on his own.

  9. Good, Homer. The slider that retired Davis a much better idea than another fastball.

  10. It would be great to chase this guy and dig deep into their pen, then tee off on Gallardo tomorrow

  11. Thank goodness that takes the sacrifice out of play. Way to go Choo!!!

  12. Does the director of the FSO broadcast sit down with the announcers and say “talk more! There were a few seconds of quiet time last night. Kelch, did you pause for air at some point? Cut it out–Jim Day is ready to step in if you don’t get with the program and talk constantly. Oh, and who accidentally used Fix Trax on screen twice on close calls last night? You know we only like to use it on check swings and pitchouts!”

  13. Ludwick and Frazier both swung at Ball 3. One got a bloop hit, the other a flyout.

    • @Steve Mancuso: He’s really been on lately. I hope he keeps it going through October, even though that will cost the Reds a lot of money down the road.

  14. I keep forgetting: will we get an extra draft pick when Choo–unfortunately–signs somewhere else next year?

    • @Eric the Red: It has something to do with making a qualifying offer, 1 year $14 mil. Make the offer, if he turns it down, another team signs him, we get a pick.

    • @Eric the Red: I think that’s right. But did you see the quote from Walt Jocketty this week where he said he was “confident” the Reds could resign Choo? I was out of town and just reading headlines, but I’m pretty sure that’s what was reported. Surprising to me.

      • @Steve Mancuso: I didn’t see that, but it would be huge. I think it would have to be a sux-seven year contract which would be scary, but he could play CF next year and then move to LF when Ludwick is gone/Hamilton is ready.

        • @Eric the Red: Not bad thinking as it would ok to have a guy like Choo in LF, but we still don’t know that Hamilton will be able to play in the majors, though he certainly can run. Also, Yorman seems to be beginning to put it together and may be ready in a year or two. Do the Reds keep Bruce on another contract? When will Ervin be ready and where does he play?

  15. I just don’t get why they insist in throwing Davis fastballs in the middle of the plate.

  16. The Reds and Jocketty WILL resign Choo, I asked him that question at the season ticket holder’s luncheon. He said we are doing everything we can to retain him. Its our number 1 priority. They love his character and work ethic. Then Billy could be brought up slowly and not rushed straight into the lead off spot. 1 more year for Ludwick left in LF.


  17. Jeff Brantley: “And the Brewers have come all the way back. It’s a 4-3 ball game.” Uh, Jeff, if they came “all the way back ” wouldn’t the score be tied?

  18. “Hellweg’s had no problem at all hitting the left arm of the Reds’ hitters.”- Chris Welch

  19. Anyone even want to hazard a guess as to what Frazier is thinking? That might be the dumbest play all season — and that’s really saying something.

  20. They had a team meeting this morning. Clearly, base running wasn’t on the agenda. Where exactly was Frazier going? Helpfully, he previewed that little stunt a pitch before so Maldonado was prepared for it.

  21. It’s a shame Choo’s walk didn’t come with no outs. If only there were a way to have arranged it so the pitcher didn’t lead off the inning…

    • @CharlotteNCRedsFan:

      Way to go MVP!!!!!

      Sorry Charlotte, really appreciate your comments and perspective, but JV=MVP is ancient history. Still stinging about a few at bats JV had against the Pirates this year.

      If JV had been solid all year they would not have the Nats breathing down their backs and would actually be in a great position for the NLC flag (something I currently do not believe they are).

      Really need the Rockies to do a number on the Cards this week.

      • @cincyreds14: Hey Red. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not endorsing him for 2013 but if he got smoking red hot, who knows. But the guy is a MVP caliber talent and I use MVP as a nickname when he is rolling. But I know where your coming from.

        • @cincyreds14: Hey Red.Don’t get me wrong, I’m not endorsing him for 2013 but if he got smoking red hot, who knows.But the guy is a MVP caliber talent and I use MVP as a nickname when he is rolling.But I know where your coming from.

          Yes you do sir (and please excuse my manners if you are instead a madam) and yes JV is quite capable sir. If there is anyone on the Reds with the ability to carry this team for the next month or so it’s Joey (beside J Bruce).

          And don’t get me wrong – would love to see JV mirror a George Foster look-a-like (btw, last w/e was a blast – but man has this game changed in the past 35 years starting with that great team would never have been assembled as the Reds would have needed a $200M PR) look-a-like for the next month or so. Is he capable – absolutely, have I seen it – a resounding NO!

          • @cincyreds14: Speaking of the Great Eight – I believe they really inspired the current Reds. What a group that was. We will never see their like again.

            By the way, all guy as my wife will happily attest.

  22. Wow. You could see Votto was locked in today. All of his at-bats have been good. When he pulled one in the air earlier, I thought something good might happen. Just glad for him that he’s allowed to cash today’s paycheck.

  23. Marty must be seeing double, as he said he saw 2 scored ahead of Joey – sorry Marty, not withstanding your wishful thinking, it was only a 2 run HR with only 1 scoring ahead of Joey.

    And yes Marty and Cowboy, if JV started earning all his entire salary it would be most appreciated.

  24. For me, this should be Homer’s last inning regardless if what happens or if his spot comes up next half inning.

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