I have decided that today I do not care the process in which today’s Reds game plays out as long as at the end of 9 innings the team in red has more runs on the board than the team they are playing.

Mike Leake, you do a good enough job to keep Milwaukee’s runs as low as possible. Guys on offense, do enough to score at least 1 more run than the Brewers. Thank you, and have a nice day.

Fans of the team in red, discuss how things play out here and cheer for the Reds to have that one run more than Milwaukee!

A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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  1. Deep, steady breaths (says to self) … deep, steady breaths.

  2. Welcome back to the 2012 Todd Frazier!

  3. Mez loves him some first pitches

  4. What’? Simon was awful last inning. We have Hoover, LeCure, Broxton, Parra and Chapman.

  5. Why is Simon still out there?

  6. I can’t believe Simon is still in.

  7. pull Fredo after that foul ball

  8. Todd Frazier decided to take the bull by the horns and take charge. Reds retake the lead. Yes! Go Reds! Simon has control problems tonight so lets send him back out.

  9. Dusty!!!! Simon doesn’t have it tonight!

  10. I hope Dusty has a quick hooke for Simon this inning. That Aramis shot scares me.

  11. That ball ate up Votto. Nice play.

  12. Aggressive move by JV – nicely smothered.

  13. OK, now we get Parra.

  14. true LOOGY tonight? 1 batter only?

  15. After this inning Dusty can breathe. It is back on cruise control with Broxton and Chapman. His work is officially complete.

  16. The good news is, if this lead holds up, Alfredo Simon will have earned the coveted “W”. Well deserved, no?

  17. Boy on Gameday that looked like a strike!

  18. I know I keep harping on it … but this strike zone bit is really bugging me. That pitch was a strike 3-4 other times earlier in the game. And it isn’t just against the Reds. It’s happened in our favor and that’s not good either.

  19. Wasn’t LeCure working, too? Should have brought in Sam when Francisco was pinch hit for.

  20. Good job Parra.

  21. Nice job, Manny! Onward to the 8th.

  22. Maybe no Chapman tonight. Broxton-Hoover or Hoover-Broxton?

  23. Cozart on the lead-off hit parade! Love it!

  24. Love those bunts, just keep ’em coming Dusty.

  25. Gotta love the sacrifice out game.

  26. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

  27. Just wow.


  29. I hate Segura … and yet I’m liking him. They guy can pick and throw.

  30. Ok, Using Hanigan as a PH to bunt. I am flabbergasted. That was the most likely outcome.

  31. Isn’t that like.. three double play bunts in the last week or so? I know it’s at least two.

  32. Sounds like Hoover in the 8th.

  33. There are no words to express my anger of Baker’s insistence on sac bunting.

  34. I’m almost certain we lead the league in outs conceded freely.

    • @Mwv: As of the beginning of today, the Reds had 61 Sac Bunts which lead all of MLB, which only averages 34 per team (22 per AL team, 46 per NL team).

      The next highest is the Dodgers with 54.

  35. Was there a reason for the double switch? Mes hurt? The relief pitcher would be pinch hit for anyway…

    That right there is the “strategy” the NL is saving.

  36. What a waste of a lead off hit

    • @HOF-13: DISCOVERY! Cozart is actually a .330 hitter, he just normally chooses to make outs to lead off an inning so they can forgo getting him out later with a poorly executed sac bunt. Saves him at least 180ft of running.

  37. That sac bunt attempt gave me diarrhea.

  38. Another terrific job by Parra, guy has really come along for us this year.

    • @Mwv: Yep. He’s largely made up for Marshall being out. If Marshall can make it back for the post season, we’ll have two strong lefties in the pen.

  39. So in Chicago I don’t get to hear the Reds radio broadcast, but I see from the posts on here that Marty especially rips a lot of the players. Does he do the same for the manager, at least?

  40. All heck broke loose on my computer, had to reboot and start over. Lotta catching up to do. Dang it.

  41. Baseball Gods are evil. Francisco already hit a HR in this game. Would they really let Hoover blow his scoreless streak the same game?

  42. Again … BOTH of those were strikes earlier.

    • @msanmoore: All of those pitches show as exactly in the same spot on Gameday. Apparently the batter could not even believe they would not be called strikes, thank goodness, the first two calls notwithstanding.

  43. I hate this umpire

  44. Sit Down, sir!!

  45. Hooooooooooover. No runs since June 9.

  46. Hoover, yet another weapon from the pen. Our team has scary pitching.

  47. We need to see Hoover in the 9th. But it will never happen.

  48. Probably don’t have the lead right now if Ludwick plays instead of Heisey.

    • @Steve Mancuso: Quite possibly. It also just occurred to me that Heisey should be in CF with Choo in LF – if not to start then in the 9th.

    • @Steve Mancuso: This game would be over, as Luddy, who is beginning to come around, doesn’t even have a hit yet this year, let alone a 2 run HR.

  49. Reds bullpen seems to be hitting a good stride. Hoover, Broxton, Chapman. That’s a hell of a 7,8,9

  50. Marty: The numbers geeks think it’s OK to strike out.

    Marty shouldn’t talk about things he doesn’t know about.

  51. Chapman is warming

  52. A big positive for this game are the ABs from Heisey and Frazier. If they can stay hot for at least a couple weeks this will be a different team than it has been.

    • @HOF-13:

      Frazier especially. He has been heating up lately. If he goes on a tear like last year, this offense will be that much more dangerous.

      And if Ludwick ever starts hitting…..

    • @HOF-13: Yep, but Ludwick will usually play instead of CH.

  53. Making Ax work for it

  54. Uh-oh Marty just threw one high and inside to “numbers geeks” his words, not mine.

  55. John Axford. I forgot he was still with the Brewers.

  56. @Mwv: If what Marty is saying about Ryan Braun is accurate then Braun is a total ass.

  57. That was a strike?

  58. When Phillips quits trying to go deep on every swing as the “cleanup hitter” he’s dangerous.

  59. Nice piece of two strike hitting there by Phillips. Didn’t try to do much with it, just poke it into the outfield.

  60. Don’t feel good about this – Chapman due for another blown save. Sorry.

  61. Batten down the hatches, here comes the Cuban Missile. Go Reds!

  62. Welch referenced the TOOTBLAN acronym.

  63. Chappy 4 games in a row and 5 of the last 6. That’s almost like a 4-out save, isn’t it?

  64. Heisey with 2 ribeyes, Frazier with 4. The lineup construction possibilities are endless for Dusty. They both seem to be “going” now. So tomorrow we will see Izturez in the two-hole, XP hitting sixth, and Hannahan hitting seventh.

    • @RedTitan19: yea, but I like the upside, as the Reds would be so much more formidable if they could get Frazier, Mez, Cozart and Heisey going. Even though Reds lost tonight, some very valuable signs came out of tonight’s ballgame. Hope that quartet can keep it going – the Reds need them.

  65. I would have left Hoover in, but that’s me.

  66. I really hope I wasn’t prophetic.

  67. The Angels get the Doofus Award for 2012 by trading Jean Segura for about 14 starts from Zachary Greinke.

  68. Dear Dusty:

    How many runs does an average MLB team score with a runner on First and no outs? The answer is 0.93 runs. Now let’s bunt and suppose the bunt succeeds. Now we have a runner on second base and one out. How many runs does an average major league team score in an inning with this situation? The answer is 0.71 runs. Therefore the “success” of the bunt has cost our team – 0.22 runs. This should make it clear why the bunt is usually a bad idea.

    • @abox03: Funny thing is, I’m sure Dusty was trying to avoid the double play with Hannigan. Oops.

    • @abox03: Nice analogy. If you think Dusty would listen to statistical logic then you’re dreaming.

    • @abox03: I was working on this before the walk off, but…

      Let’s take 10 situations and look at what would happen.

      – A bunt is successful about 76% of the time (good bunters) so we will say 8 in 10.

      So 8 times (.71 runs) = 5.68 + 1 time not advancing (.52 runs) + 1 time double play (.01) =

      Total of 6.21 runs potentially scored in those 10 innings with bunting

      Now, not bunting…let’s assume you have an average hitter so 2 out of 10 times he gets a hit. 2on and no outs (1.75 runs x 2) = 3.50
      He grounds into a DP about 10% of the time so 2 outs and no one on (.01 run x 1) = 0.01
      The other 7 times we are left with 1 out and runner on first (.52 x 7) = 3.64

      So a total of 7.15 runs potentially scored in those 10 innings WITH OUT bunting

      So over 10 situations/innings you can score almost 1 full run more on average. Over the course of the season, that adds up to a lot of runs!

  69. Not a good beginning for Chapman. I sometimes wonder if he comes in too amped up and overthrows trying to get the mph up.

  70. For goodness sake, Joey has to get that ball!

  71. well, shoot.

  72. Sorry – I say JV needs to catch that. But as they are saying, Segura had it beat anyway.

  73. 33,037 +2 turned out for tonight’s titanic struggle, 33,037 +2.

  74. He’s timing it…

  75. Well CRAP!!! See you all tomorrow.

  76. We’ll get ’em tomorrow.

  77. Well Dang. That was spanked.

  78. Patented

  79. Well, second place was fun while it lasted.

    Can we just make Hoover the closer already?

    • @CI3J: We will be back in 2nd tomorrow.

    • @CI3J: Once Dusty moves on, then we will see the necessary changes – and not before..

    • @CI3J: Once the Reds package and ship (ala UPS) Chapman and Bailey, then it should get a lot rosier. Just hope that Dustyisms stay at a minimum, because there isn’t a darn thing we can do about them so us Reds fans need to do a work around..

  80. So we have our answer. He can’t get Lucroy with a ton of fastballs. Chapman’s limit is 4 appearance in 5 days. 5 appearances in 6 days will not work. JHC.

    If the Reds didn’t have bad luck they wouldn’t have any luck at all.

    • @prjeter: What did “luck” have to do with it? Leake, Simon and Chapman were off (or just bad), and the bats other than Heisey and Frazier didn’t do enough – altho 6 runs should be enough.

  81. And the myth of the closer strikes again.

  82. Problem with Chapman I have noticed….when players see several pitches in the AB, they seem to time him well and hit him HARD.

    • @abox03: The real issue seems to be (i) no effective true off-speed pitch and (ii) not really able to locate the pitches he does have, that is, where they hit in the strike zone appears largely accidental and not by any design. So if he is a little slower or a little flatter on his pitches, for whatever reason, the likelihood that he will get squared up for a long ball before a strikeout happens increases significantly.

    • @abox03:
      That’s not just a Chapman issue… These are major league hitters. Throw the same pitch over and over they will eventually adjust and hit it a long way.

      • @NYredfanatic: Definitely agree, NY – now if only Dusty would learn to mix it up, ala Jeff Brantley’s suggestion. Dusty’s way too set in his ways – so we should simply expect Dustyisms because he sure is not going to change. Checkmate!

  83. 80mph slider that didn’t slide… hate to get beat on that pitch but he wasn’t in triple digits tonight. We’ll get them tomorrow.

  84. Dusty is a scourge. Cincy Reds fans – this helps us to learn to our love of the team so when playoff time comes around we aren’t so heart broken and devastated. And by no means was I the only one to call his most recent blunder. Really can’t wait for him to move on!

  85. Slider out over the heart of the plate….cya.

    Oh well….there’s tomorrow.

  86. Imagine if I told you this at the end of the 2012 season:

    Chapman will have a higher ERA as the closer than Cingrani has as a starter. Heck, Cingrani’s ERA is still lower even if you add in his relief pitching innings too.

  87. Brantley said at the start of the inning that it’s hard to come in and face the same three guys you got out the night before.

    Chapman gave up the home run, but there shouldn’t have been anyone on base. The Reds have to get that out on Segura, it was a relatively routine ground ball for professionals. Bad throw, bad pick. Game winning run.

    • @Steve Mancuso: Not sure if I would have called that relatively routine. As they said on TV, even if Votto holds onto that ball, Segura is still safe. It’s not like Hanigan was running down the first base line. We’re talking about a 23-year-old who has stolen 35 bases so far this season. He’s pretty fast.

      • @ToddAlmighty: He’s fast and the play was close (I don’t agree that Segura would have been safe, that’s an easy thing for the TV announcers to say to take the blame off the players). The play still needs to be made, safe or out.

    • @Steve Mancuso: The Reds do have some weak spots on defense, and 2 of them were involved on that play.

  88. Also can’t help but wonder what would have happened if Dusty didn’t tell Hanigan to bunt after Cozart led off the inning with a single. Runner on 1st, no outs turned into nobody on two outs. Inning essentially over.

  89. GOOD GRIEF! (when Chapman blows it, it’s just like Lucy moved the football). Oh well, Cards get shutout (actually spanked) by the Cubs. It’s baseball. Nuts.

  90. You gotta be kidding me, that freaking kick in the LuGroin guy beat us. Not going to criticize Dusty for bringing in Chapman, he’s the closer after all. But a lot of managers would have left Hoover in for the experience of closing, especially the way Hoover was pitching tonight. A manager that would leave Hoover in is the type of manager that recognized that Hoover was dominate and no move was really necessary, especially considering giving your closer a day off was probably beneficial. Back at em again tomorrow, can’t win em all. If the Reds win the next two I’ll be a happy camper. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

    • @Sergeant2: Dusty thinks that :
      a) he’ll be back next year
      b) Chapman will be back next year (as closer, of course)
      c) Hoover, who? (rookie going to be moved…somewhere, next year, (got to learn the “book’s” rules)

      • @Hunt4RedsOctober: @wildwestLV: Hey wilde, real good to hear from you. And my thoughts exactly. I wonder how Dusty is going to affect the team in the next 2 months? More Dustyisms coming – we can sure count on that.

        • @Hunt4RedsOctober: @wildwestLV: Hey wilde, real good to hear from you.And my thoughts exactly. I wonder how Dusty is going to affect the team in the next 2 months?More Dustyisms coming – we can sure count on that.

          Let’s just hope Dusty keeps them to a minimum and lets the boys play, warts and all.

  91. Stop with the closer stuff. The closer is an overpaid reliever and isn’t even the most valuable man in the bullpen.

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