Well, the Reds attempt to step on the gas sputtered at the starting line yesterday with a loss to the Mariners.  The Reds can’t win them all, even though many times, we want them to.  They’ll try to win the rest of their scheduled games by winning game 2 today against Seattle.

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  1. Timely hit from the minor leaguer.

  2. You know things are not going well when you double your season RBI total in one game in July.

  3. All hail Cesar

  4. Wow. Dusty must of had a hunch. Who’d a thunk.

  5. Jeremy Bonderman must have let sabermetrics get in his head.

  6. Izturis and Latos with 5 of the 6 RBIs. All with 2 outs.

  7. I was talking to my dad today about how he real difference between this team and the previous two division winners in 2010 and 2012, is that the whole team isn’t contributing.

    We haven’t had a difference maker off the bench late in games, unlike Heisey in ’10, Paul and Heisey in ’12. We aren’t getting “magic” from guys that are unexpectedly raking, like the Toddfather last year, or Ludwick from left. The game isn’t over after 7 innings, like it was last year.

    We have 3 aces on this team, with one having spent more time on the DL than in the rotation. We have 5 should-be dynamite back end of the bull pen, high leverage guys (I include Hoover and LeCure with the big three). What this team does though, is rely on its stars moreso than teams past. We lean on Choo, Votto, BP and Bruce game in and game out, and if they don’t deliver, we don’t win. There isn’t enough help from the bench and our bullpen has been way too suspect. That’s what, for me, feels different about this team.

    Granted, as I said that too him, Hannahan doubled and Latos drove him and Hanigan in as we took control of the game. Hopefully these guys continue to prove me wrong.

    • @hermanbates: I like what you’re saying. So far it seems like the team isn’t playing as well as those division winning teams. But I think the context of being third in the division is affecting that perception.

      The Reds are 49-37 after 86 games this year. In 2012, the Reds were 48-38 and in 2010 they were 49-37.

  8. More two out runs from the team that supposedly can’t do that.

  9. This is about the worst lineup the Reds could put out there. The Reds will be lucky to get more than 1 run.

    Why do people say things like this? I’ve never understood it.

  10. That’s why you walk the .195 player to bring up the pitcher.

  11. Robinson bobble in the OF costs another run. He really needs to come off the field.

  12. D Rob has not been having a great game, especially defensively.

  13. Robinson is really taking a step back…starting to clear up why the Royals let him go.

  14. D. Robinson: demonstrating why the “D” doesn’t mean what we think it means.

  15. Stupid Cubs now up 4-1.

  16. Sveum just yanked Jackson (Pit vs. Chi). It’s fascinating watching Dusty go head-to-head with another NLC manager, in a close game.

    • @Steve Mancuso: Strange performance from Latos today. Struck out a ton of guys but also got hit and demonstrated some control problems. He is striking out a ton of guys lately. Have to pleased with his first half overall.

    • @Steve Mancuso: Still think this is my favorite Reds promotional thing. Fans love it.

      • @Mwv: I was talking to some season ticket holders at a game earlier this year and they knew Buddy LaRosa. Buddy says that he doesn’t care if they lose money on it (although it’s not clear that they do lose money) but that he just loves when people come in and eat his food. LaRosa also complained at how United Dairy Farmer was too cheap to do the promotion this year. Last year it was free pizza and a free scoop of UDF.

        • @Steve Mancuso: Okay, that’s pretty darn awesome. I didn’t realize about the UDF thing, that’s too bad they stopped this year. La Rossa’s has gotten a lot of extra mention thanks to that promotion. If they keep this up this year it’ll get pretty notorious just due to how often this team is getting 11 K’s. Cool to hear that Buddy is fine with how much free stuff he has to give away due to our fantastic staff.

        • @Steve Mancuso: What kind and size do you get? i’m not from Cincinnati.

          • @RedForever: I don’t know if you’ll see this since I’m reading the game thread after the game (which I do a lot) but you get a small pizza with I think up to four toppings. It’s a good deal.

  17. LaRosa’s > Domino’s. No question.

  18. DRob bunting here?

  19. Votto smoke that. I think Ryan just threw up his glove at that one.

  20. Bruce had been killing the ball today. It was a matter of time.

  21. Great job, Bruce. Going the other way and yet another double.

  22. BRUUUUUUUCEE!!!! I love how much he’s going the other way this year.

  23. Jay has looked really good today.

  24. Bruce. What a bum.

  25. More two-out runs for the Reds.

    Maybe Marty will get off Bruce for a while now, with a couple big hits. Just yesterday Marty was complaining that Bruce was in another one of his “patented funks” because he was 4 for 20.

  26. This team can’t hit with two outs and RISP.

  27. Another hit from Hannahan.

    Maybe a little more playing time for him ahead of Frazier?

    • @Steve Mancuso: I don’t think he has earned it. Frazier had some terrible ABs yesterday and is struggling but still seems like a much better option IMO.

  28. Hannahan raking today. Didn’t see that coming.

  29. Base running error there withstanding, it has been nice to see Hannahan and Izturis making major contributions today.

  30. I guess Parra is pitching today. Why not get other guys some work Dusty?

  31. Glad to see BP finally get a hit. He’s smacked it the other three times today.

    Parra in the game after throwing 40+ pitches yesterday? Really? What about the rest of the BP that needs work? Maybe just for one or two hitters?

  32. Neil Walker left Saturday’s game against the Cubs with discomfort in his right side.
    There was no indication how the second baseman sustained the side injury or its extent. Walker will be reevaluated by the Pirates after the game, at which time more should be revealed to the general public.

  33. Votto, BP were voted to start the All Star Game as just announced on Fox.

  34. Dodgers close to deal for Nolasco.

  35. Both BP and Votto in the starting lineup for the ASG!!!

  36. Nice. Votto and BP starters for the NL

  37. Molina
    Votto
    Phillips
    Tulowitzki
    Wright
    Harper
    Beltran
    Gonzalez

  38. Hannahan’s music makes me want to dance

  39. No Pirates. Haul down the Jolly Roger.

  40. Harper with the starting nod. Unreal. His numbers really aren’t that good- nor were they last year when he stole the Rookie of the Year from Wade Miley.

    • @Kyle: You can’t spell Bryce Harper without H-Y-P-E. (I just made that up.)

      • @Steve Mancuso: Except Bryce Harper IS that good. I get the overhype thing, but the guy is an excellent baseball player this year.

    • Harper with the starting nod. Unreal. His numbers really aren’t that good- nor were they last year when he stole the Rookie of the Year from Wade Miley.

      He was out for about three weeks. Does he deserve to start? Probably not. Is he the real deal? Yes.

  41. Just saw this on twitter

    Derrick Goold @dgoold

    Yadier Molina out with knee injury. Going right now to have scans taken of right knee. Matheny expresses concern. #stlcards #cardinals

  42. I like Chris Welsh’s negative rundown to being an All-Star: Packing clothes, leaving the team, flying, fitting hotel card-keys into slots…

  43. Edwin made it for the Blue Jays. Happy to see that.

  44. Back to what’s important.. the pizza promotion.. anyone know how many times the Reds have struck out 11 at home so far this year?

  45. Chapman made it again.

  46. Chapman makes the All Star team.

  47. Chapman in all star game, as well

  48. Chapman made it, as did Travis Wood (nice to see that).

  49. Chapman made it? Kinda surprising there, not sure I’d have selected him.

    • @Mwv: I was thinking the same thing from a performance standpoint, although he hasn’t really been bad. All closers have bad games. BUT… from an NL trying to win for WS HFA standpoint, I think Chapman is a good choice.

      Too bad Bruce didn’t make it. He’s having a good all-around year.

  50. Damn, I just realized Molina made it as the starter.

  51. Man, no Bruce. Disappointed there.

    • @Kyle: I’m tired of hearing about the Yasel Puig stuff. He will end up making it on the final ballot (which I’ll guess Bruce will be on as well). He has not been nearly as valuable to the Dodgers as Bruce has been to the Reds (or likely any of the other three guys to their teams).

      I think Bruce really deserved it this year. Takes a bit of the sting out since I don’t think he necessarily should have been there last season.

  52. No Reds reserve players made the AS team, at least not yet.

  53. Thank goodness Puig didn’t make it. Jeez, that would’ve been as big a joke as the Pro Bowl.

    • @rhayex: No bigger joke than some of the players voted in year after year. He was best hitter in the NL for 1 of the 3 months. I know it’s a small sample size, but he’s a better choice than Harper, who hasn’t played all that much more and has played worse (both in the field and at the plate).

      • @prjeter: I’d pick Puig over Harper, even if Marty does say it woul dbe a “travesty.” I still like Marty, but he does go overboard a lot.

    • @rhayex: I’m sure he is going to make it from the final ballot. Ridiculous, has about 125 ABs.

      • @Kyle: I’m not advocating for him, but what’s better? The best hitting in the NL for 125 at-bats or slightly above-average for 250 ABs? I honestly think he shouldn’t be on the final ballot, especially over Jay Bruce, but it’s not as outlandish as some may think.

        What’s REALLY outlandish is the fact that they still have WS HFA tied to the All-Star Game. It should be an exhibition, which in that case, Puig would be a shoe-in since he’s currently “must see TV” as the MLB Network guys keep reminding us.

        • @prjeter: Fair enough. I don’t agree that he should be on the team but I don’t think it is outlandish. What gets me is hearing commentators talk about it like it is an outrage. Obviously, they are in the entertainment business but it is frustrating to hear.

  54. Is the field still wet?

  55. Wow, Bruce did not even make the final ballot. Surprised by that.

  56. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    Stupid final vote.

  57. Haha! Puig part of “Final 5.” I bet he makes it.

  58. No Bruce. But, Puig, yes, despite playing in only 30 games. Not surprisingly, Harold Reynolds loves the idea. Reynolds is the dumbest guy doing baseball on TV.

  59. The Yadier Molina knee injury story is now being reported by the Associated Press.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/cardinals-c-yadier-molina-sidelined-by-knee-injury-sent-for-medical-tests/2013/07/06/ae9e6212-e682-11e2-97c2-eee7eab7397e_story.html

    The Cardinals, not taking any chances with their bread and butter have sent him for an MRI. (Trying with all my might not to mention Joey Votto here.)

  60. I love the homerism here. Bruce has a 118 OPS+, Harper a 147 OPS+, but Bruce got robbed and Harper is overrated.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: Part of the issue with Harper this year is that he’s been hurt for most of the season. He has fewer than half the RBI that Bruce does, for instance. Harper is a tremendous talent and no doubt deserving of All Star recognition when he can play an entire season.

      Was anyone here saying Bruce should have made it?

      • @Steve Mancuso: Yes, people are saying Bruce should make it; scroll down. Heck, Carpenter deserves it over Phillips, and now people will think I’m a Cards fan. Votto and Goldschmidt are close, too.

        In terms of Harper, ok, fair enough on number of ABs. People really do think he’s overhyped though. How can that be, a 20 year old who’s one of the best players in the game? His one problem is that he might pull a Bump Bailey one of these days…I’m not kidding.

    • I love the homerism here.Bruce has a 118 OPS+, Harper a 147 OPS+, but Bruce got robbed and Harper is overrated.

      Thank You. Bryce Harper is the real deal. He and Manny Machado are as good as it gets.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: It is a Reds blog with reaction seconds after the All Star selections have been announced. Yes, I think there is going to be some homerism. 🙂

      Objectively, I’d even say that I think Bruce should have made it, although it is not exactly a travesty that he isn’t on there. He has had a very good first half. I think I saw him on 4 of the 6 ESPN analyst brackets and he was last cut on a 5th. I think he was definitely a borderline case. I’d like to compare him to the other OFs that were not voted in, but the list isn’t up on ESPN. I’ll look for it.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate:

      From Baseball-Reference:

      BRUCE OPS+: 114 in 374 PAs
      HARPER OPS+: 147 in 201 PAs
      PUIG OPS+: 220 in 127 PAs

      If you’re going to say it’s silly to consider Bruce over Harper, your logic would dictate it’s silly to consider Harper over Puig.

      (I don’t believe this, just trying to show the logic in using a single stat to determine eligibility.)

      • @prjeter: The only question is PAs. If you want to use oWAR or something , fine. With Puig, the argument would be that the league has no idea about him from 127 PAs.

        I can see the argument for not taking a guy with < 300 PAs or so. But Bruce is undeserving, and Harper is a much better player, except for his running into walls problem.

        • @Hank Aarons Teammate: Yeah, no argument about Harper being much better than Bruce. I’d trade Bruce and every prospect we had for Harper, and I love Bruce.

          • @prjeter: What. I…What. Are you joking? I hope you’re joking. Bruce is a great player (not talking about close to HoF, but well above average) in his own right, and Harper is hype+potential+east coast. I would take Harper over Bruce because of price and team control for the next 5-6 years, but I wouldn’t trade all of our prospects for him.
            That’s just silly.

  61. McCutchen over Bruce. I disagree. Pirates had Grilli as well.

    • @dg44: How can Bruce be more deserving than a CF who has better hitting numbers? Bruce isn’t anything special on defense, and he plays corner OF, not CF.

  62. Huh…Bruce and Latos robbed. Guess Latos didn’t have enough “dub-yas”.

    • @rfay00: Or it could be because he’s 12th in ERA+ among starters. Leake has more of a beef than Latos. Did Leake make it?

      • @Hank Aarons Teammate: Because the voters look at ERA+? Leake doesn’t strike enough guys out.

        Those are the things these “experts” look at.

        • @rfay00: Well, they look at ERA, and Latos is hurt by home park…but Latos does not deserve to be an all star this year, assuming we are picking based on April-June. He’s having an excellent season…but not in the top 10 ERA+.

  63. Props for Travis Wood.

  64. That guy has a great pitcher’s name.. Smoak.

  65. No player with 30 games in the league should be an all star. No to Puig.

  66. Brilliant Cubs beat the Pirates, 4-1.

  67. What is wrong with this bullpen? Not even a five run lead against a 4th place team is safe. These guys need to have a good look in the mirror.

  68. I think I’m going to vote for Puig.

    • @renbutler: Puig should make it if MLB wants fan interest. If they choose on merit though, no way 1 month should be good enough.

      • @Hank Aarons Teammate: I think it’s silly that people are getting so worked up over something so inconsequential. I just feel like messing around with those people a little bit.

        • @renbutler: I agree, actually. I don’t even watch the game. Every team’s fans think their guy got robbed.

      • @Hank Aarons Teammate:
        Agreed. But if you want to try to win the game for the NL, who else do you want? Puig has shown his 5-tools in many occasions already. If a manager is selecting his reserves he wants to try to win. Or at least he should pick based on trying to win.

        Does anyone know if the managers have any sort of guidance to pick for performance over all else by the MLB? Like a contract or something they sign.

  69. Terrible outing by Lecure today.

  70. And I should say, good job by Baker not to be complacent there.

  71. Too bad the Cubbies didn’t hit a Bucco by pitch, after the ASG announcement. Just, because, you know…that’s what evry MLB team wants to do re: the Pirates.

    • @wildwestLV: Pirates play with some sort of attitude that is in my opinion disgusting. They haven’t earned anything yet, but act like they have.

  72. RedForever was right: the Reds would be lucky to score 1 today. He just missed the zero after the 1.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: His thinking was understandable. his outburst was a break – a very good one, of course – from what the more regular lineups have been doing. I think we’ll all take more of it, though.

  73. How about Bochy picking Marco Scutaro! Now that’s a joke.

    • @AnnapolisHoosier: The time-honored tradition of the manager picking his own guys. The league should step in on this, but they never will. People have contract bonuses for making the team.

    • @AnnapolisHoosier: It is, although I don’t blame him. I’d pick every guy even close from my team if I were the manager. I wouldn’t upset any of my players.

  74. Jayson Stark @jaysonst

    Most surprising player votes: Goldschmidt over Votto in a landslide (508-347) and Segura over Tulo (438-309) by a big margin.

  75. Votto’s 12 IBB are 100% more than the people in 2nd in the NL (Ethier and Crawford).

  76. Robinson is a fast human being.

  77. Mariners shooting themselves in the foot.

  78. The Reds will be lucky to score 15 today with this lineup.

  79. Reds backups ate their Wheaties before this one, wowzers.

  80. Either the Reds’ bats or the Cubs’ — I mean Mariners’ — fielding has broken Gameday.

  81. Mariners are letting this guy take a beating…

  82. Chris heisey now has the lowest average on the team. I think that will change.

  83. Anybody else getting White Sox/Rays on FOX?

    What are the Rays wearing???

    • @renbutler: I am and I have no idea. Can’t be throwbacks since they have only been around for a short period. They should just wear the old TB Bucs uniforms if they are going to wear these.

  84. Ondrusek with the ‘stache!

  85. Giants have a run taken away because Posey batted out of order and Mattingly called them on it. Posey called out, runner that he knocked in sent back to third.

  86. 3.5 out. Reds win!!

  87. Nice win. Let’s get the series tomorrow.

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A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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