The most promising change in the Reds prospects lately has been the revelation that the Cardinals are not invincible. While the Reds dropped 2 of 3 to the Diamondbacks, they gained a game on the Cards who were busy getting swept by the Rangers. Hopefully, the Cardinal slide continues and the Reds pick up the pace.

The Reds march into Oakland tonight for the start of a tough two-game series. It’s a late game and won’t get going until 10:00, but once it does, feel free to discuss the Arroyo vs. Milone grudge match here.

Also, and this needs to be said, let’s keep it clean tonight, fellas. It got a bit out of hand in the recap the other night. All of the editors were out of town or in bed, so we didn’t notice for a while, but we do have a commenting policy (which I suggest you read) and if you violate it you can be banned with no notice or explanation. If you ever find yourself unable to post comments, there’s a reason. Disagreement is awesome as long as it’s respectful.

Jason has been a fan of the Reds since he was born. He really had no choice in the matter. He has been writing at Redleg Nation for a few years, and also writes and edits at The Hardball Times. His debut novel, When the Sparrow Sings, is available now and concerns baseball, among other things. You can find more information at

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  1. We are hitting the ball hard, real hard. Everybody. Even freaking Izturis. This is the best I’ve ever felt about a 6-1 deficit.

    • @dg44: Hitting the ball hard doesn’t really mean a lot when you don’t score. Nothing, actually.

      I’ll be very surprised if they manage to score twice more tonight.

    • @dg44: Agree. If Bronson can settle down, we have a chance as this is the best the Reds have hit in awhile. Line drives all over the park. Normally that should add up to scoring some runs. We’ll see.

  2. I’m having second thoughts about my ‘right to over react comment.’ I at least try to complain in an entertaining manner. I’m about ready to drink some bleach right now.

    • @preach: Now you understand the grumbling earlier. I will commend RF though for easing back a lot, he was almost this bad for quite a while himself but he’s trying to turn over a new leaf.

      • @Mwv: Yeah and you know that RF loves the Reds as much as the rest of us. There are some others that I’m not so sure of.

        • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Eh, I won’t pretend to even attempt to divine people’s loyalties over the internet. That’s a sucker’s game both ways because you can’t prove anything. It only really becomes annoying when you stop and consider how this board was even a year ago this time. Completely different feel to it.

          • @Mwv: Well we are two different people and thus we have differing opinions. As far as the “feel” of the Blog, I’m not sure it is that much different. Little more personality now and fellowship. But this is only my third season. I have heard a few of the “Old-Timers” complain. Must of been really great in the Good Old Days because it ain’t bad right now.

          • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Second year here for me. Up until say the last month or so of last year it was very different (I think at least). Much more positive, much more stat-driven and interesting. Could just be me though.

          • @Mwv: Reds have not played good fundamental ball in a couple of weeks and we have lifers on board that notice that stuff. As soon as the Reds start playing better fundamentally, it will quite back down.

    • @preach: Preach I know you must be a very disciplined man, given your profession. I recommend by-passing certain posts and life will be that much better.

  3. Hitting with 2 outs and RISP???? What is this??

    oh yeah, we’re actually playing a good team. Hope Dusty and Co are taking some notes.

  4. Day off Thursday, maybe Dusty should go to the pen????

  5. Here’s a game to play…..What is Bryan Price saying now?

  6. 7 runs in 3 2/3 innings.


  7. I say if we can score a few runs here in the 5th dusty should go to the pen because the day off thursday…if not…i say let bronson ride it out until 100 pitches or so and hope for the best

  8. Ring ring: Hello, yes I was just wondering if the editors are still out of town or still in bed.

  9. I wonder if I did a Facebook search on Josh Bresser, if someone wearing a Cardinals jersey would show up…

  10. I was thinking Bartman, but you may be right.

  11. Random here, but can someone explain Paul’s low WAR.

  12. Question- when was the last time the Reds won a series against a legitimate playoff contender?

    Can’t seem to recall it..the Pirates’ series maybe?

  13. Izturis crushes a double. There is hope.

    • @preach: A bad hitter in a bad lineup getting a hit doesn’t give the Reds 6 more runs, unfortunately.

  14. Is Ryan Hanigan in his contract year? Not a good year for him so far.

    • @Redgoggles: Kinda. His contract expires but he has another year left in arbitration. Which the Reds should offer no matter what imo.

  15. Love hannigan behind the plate but .167 in the last week and .152 in away games this year….

  16. Looks like Choo needs to get the run in from..against a lefty.

    he wont.

  17. Man, it has been so long since we had a big inning. Is this going to be the one? Can’t even remember the last real rally.

  18. Tonight would be a lovely night for a big comeback, would it not?

  19. I tried to warn y’all when I saw the poster in question’s name pop up, even recommending a preemptive ban.

    • @CP: The question is: should one be banned for just bad taste and etiquette? I say no but I can avoid things I don’t care for very easily. As long as someone is not vulgar or personally attacking another poster, I can live with it. But it does seem like a pretty big waste of time, IMO.

      • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: I don’t see why not, especially when it’s so extreme.

        The website is for personal entertainment. I love discussing the Reds with other Reds fans, even if they have different/weird/contrarian view points. But ultimately, it’s about having fun. The guy is negative fun.

        In my opinion, another point of having a cool website like this is to get as many Reds fans together on your website as possible. The poster in question is more likely to detract from visitors than add to it.

        But hey, not our websites, not our decision.

  20. Why would Milone be foolish enough to give Votto a pitch to hit? They have Todd “Automatic Out” Frazier on deck.

  21. If Bruce Frazier could go yard…ya never know.

  22. Josh, I don’t disagree with any individual argument you make. A lot of us are even aware of the points you make and the data you use to support it. But being CONSTANTLY reminded of the team’s weak spots SO persistently really does make it a less pleasant experience. There’s a difference between being a realist and being a fatalist.

  23. So chill man, is what I’m saying.

  24. cingrani in?

  25. Bruce could make it a ballgame right here.

  26. Well Bruce, it’s up to you buddy…get us back in reach.

  27. Bruce in a hot streak coming up. Good set up.

  28. Clear them bases, Jay!

  29. Well, best chance as any they’ll get here tonight.

    Or is this another Bruce slump incoming?

  30. Their 2nd baseman looks like he’s straight off a 1980’s baseball card. With the large glasses and all.

  31. That ballpark is enormous. Good golly.

  32. Hey Bruce. You get one in, I’ll buy you a hot dog brother. All of em, and it’ll be two hot dogs. Whaddya say?

  33. Ok, let him pay for not being able to catch that. A LOT of foul ground in this park.

  34. Walk in a run? Why not take it.

  35. Jay just missed that one.

  36. Breaking ball coming.

  37. We will take it.

  38. Woot! One hot dog it is!

  39. Great at bat there, in fact several good at bats in a row.

  40. Another Heisey double please???

    • @rfay00: Better odds: Another Heisey double or another Heisey walk? Obviously the double…but I wonder what the odds are?

  41. Very nice AB from Mr. Bruce. Looks like a new team tonight.

  42. Impressive patience by Bruce. At least someone on this team is doing well.

    Meanwhile, Heisey is up, so the inning is effectively over.

  43. COME ON HEISEY! Nice little single here thats all we need. If you do that, I will forget all your crapiness this season so far.

  44. 1.42 WHIP and a 2.19 ERA

    Those numbers don’t last long together…hopefully Heisey can exploit them.

  45. How does Melvin pull his starter 4 runs earlier than Dusty? Doesn’t he know they play again tomorrow and his bullpen may be needed in that game too??!

  46. Great at bat by Bruce. That Oakland pitcher was playing with fire with every pitch he was throwing to Bruce. Its probably a good thing that the only damage he allowed was one run. C’mon Reds lets go!!

  47. Reds have had a terrible time lately getting clutch hits with men on.

  48. This is the craziest windup I’ve ever seen. Is this guy on Ketamine?

  49. Still 4 at bats left. Sure, their bullpen is nasty, but 4 innings is a lot of bullpen innings. I feel like theres some decent momentum going for us too. A quick inning would be perfect.

  50. Well, chipping away. Unfortunately I’ll have to watch the rest tomorrow morning. Have a good night ladies, gents and monotone four-legged friends.

  51. Bum. Strike 2 call didn’t help.

  52. Lutz woulda got a hit…

  53. Paul should’ve hit for Heisey there. Might’ve struck out, too, but that was the move. … Maybe Dusty was waiting to hit for the pitcher.

  54. Hey, the Cubs DFA’d Marmol. Want some bullpen help?!??

  55. I know zero about the Athletics bullpen, but I do know there’s a long way to go in this game. If the Reds can hold em to no more runs, well, like I said there’s a long way to go. Go Reds!!!!!!

  56. Nice ABs in that inning, except Hanigan and Heisey.

    The A’s broadcasters keep pointing out that, without Frazier’s base running blunder, the Reds may have had a big inning in the 4th. For example, Bruce’s hard-hit ball to first may have gotten past the 1st baseman if he were holding Frazier on first.

    • @pinson343: It’s practically impossible to play the “what if” game like that. For instance, who knows if Milone would have thrown the same pitch to Bruce if he had a runner on first?

      • @yoobee: It is impossible. That’s why you have to say “may have …. “. But a dumb out is a dumb out.

  57. Cozart, Hanigan, and Izturis.

    That’s a championship lineup if I’ve ever heard one

  58. Cozy watched ball 1!!! There is hope!

  59. Cozart actually didnt swing at the first pitch. Did the Earth shift?

  60. Devin. That is all.

  61. Marty and Cowboy were wrong big time, the batter actually did go to far with his swing.

  62. We pay 30-40 million for Broxton and I bet the A’s paid next to nothing for this Neshek guy.

  63. Izturis has two hits, one from each side of the plate. Don’t tell me we can’t climb back into this one. Nice speed by Robinson.

    • @preach: I was just saying the other day, that guy really should play more often…(I just lied, I never said that).

  64. Are we sure Izturis didn’t visit the Biogenesis center on the off day? Two actual hits that left the infield?

  65. Playing a game, called “one word for each Reds AB this time around the lineup.”

    Here are my results so far:

    Cozart- terrible.
    Hanigan- worse.
    Izturis- surprising.
    Robinson- nice.

    Feel free to join in.

    • @JoshBresser: Choo – HBP (not a surprise)

    • @JoshBresser: Oh my god, take your 100 whiny, overexpressive posts somewhere else. I mean seriously, I recognize this team has issues, but shouldn’t you become a Cardinals fan or something. They are, after all, the WLBs.

  66. I will post again… case Dusty reads RLN.

    NL Rank of batters 6, 7, 8

    6th – 15th .223
    7th – 13th .220
    8th – 13th .200

    For reference …. cards are 1st, 6th, 4th

  67. Neshak so hittable by lefties, Izturis hits a line drive off him. So why didn’t Paul PH for Heisey with the bases loaded ?

  68. Choo get’s the same hot dog deal I offered Bruce.

  69. Ehh. Hot dog worthy.

  70. Wow, Choo hit again. He did a great job of working the count.

  71. Choo- Patient.

  72. Hey, let’s get another BBRBI.

  73. 2 outs bases loaded in back to back innings ! Lets go Votto!

  74. way late on that fastball. Seemed surprised that was the pitch.

  75. Seriously, Choo has been hit a league leading 20 times now, why does he keep getting hit? It doesn’t look like he especially crowds the plate to the point of getting hit so often.

    • @Sergeant2: I think many batters make an effort to get out of the way of inside pitches that tail too far inside, but Choo just stands there. Technically, the rules require you to make an effort to get out of the way of the pitch, but that is almost never enforced.

      • @yoobee: I also think he crowds the plate a little.

      • @yoobee: Choo “spins” to take the pitch in his back or hip, as that makes it look like you made an attempt. He does not move out of the way. It’s very smart and I’m surprised more players don’t do it. Unless it moving toward your head, just spin and take it where it doesn’t hurt.

  76. Votto- Bad.

    Bases loaded in back to back innings..0 hits with RISP in either. Bad. Very bad.

  77. That’s technically not an infield popup…but that’s about as close as you can get to one. Without ACTUALLY hitting one.

  78. Bases loaded in back to back innings and you get 0 hits with RISP with your “superstar hitter” up? Pathetic.

    Votto can’t hit with 2 outs and RISP.

    This is why this team will go nowhere. No timely hitting whatsoever.

  79. How many times are we going to leave the bases loaded? We cant say we never had the chances.

  80. Ugh, wasting huge opportunities.

  81. All right ladies and gentlemen. I’m off to bed, here’s to an epic comeback. There’s always tomorrow as well. Good night!

  82. Norm Charlton Jr. doesn’t have the killer go get em attitude of his older lookalike.

  83. Talk about a blowout.

  84. Whew. With Partch’s windup, I don’t see how he can hold a runner on first. On the other hand, he has a very good view of the runner on 2nd.

  85. Reds gotta make some noise this inning. Bruce, Frazier and Heisey (I think) coming up. C’mon Reds battle back, score some runs. Go Reds!


    Reds have the best record against sub .500 teams, 21st against +.500 teams.


  87. Game won’t be a complete loss if they can score 5 runs. 5 runs and they can say it wasn’t completely embarrassing.

    In other words, Manny Parra is pitching pretty well.

  88. Marty thought Heisey just struck out, but it was actually Cozart.

  89. 17,506 showed up for tonight’s titanic struggle, 17,506.

  90. perfect example of the black hole bad luck….we have been getting 9 and 1 on base consistently all night, but unfortunately, its after 6-8 have been to the plate and recorded 2 outs. No excuse for Choo/Votto but the black hole is really hurting us tonight.

  91. Another 2 left in scoring position with 2 outs.

  92. How many runners left in scoring position ? I’ve lost track.

  93. 4 for their last 35 with RISP was just stated on the broadcast. The A’s had that many hits with RISP in the 2nd and 3rd innings.

  94. Agree with the broadcast…great job by the bullpen…. 0 runs

    • @abox03: @RedForever: A lot of good it did. The starters just can’t afford to give up more than 3 runs, an that’s usually pushign it. Too many holes in teh lineup.

  95. How the team performs before the All-Star break could be completely different from the way they perform after the All-Star break. The way a team performs after the All-Star break is when the rubber meets the road. Until then I’ll hold off taking up residence in a doomsday bunker.

  96. I’ll be glad to split with an Oakland team that’s only a half game out of first place in their division. We’ll get em tomorrow for the split. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

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Jason has been a fan of the Reds since he was born. He really had no choice in the matter. He has been writing at Redleg Nation for a few years, and also writes and edits at The Hardball Times. His debut novel, When the Sparrow Sings, is available now and concerns baseball, among other things. You can find more information at


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