Can the Reds avoid being swept by the Nationals on the road?  Let’s hope so!

I made a bold prediction that the Reds would at least double their runs and hits for the series yesterday and they did.  Today, I am making another bold prediction.  The Reds will win at least 1 more game on the road this season.  It might as well be today’s game!  Discuss here or face the wrath of Milton!

A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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  1. Thanks some more Nationals!

  2. WHAAAAT? How was that not another 1 pitch out?

  3. Infield fly rule? Surprised no call?

  4. That is one of the ugliest hits I’ve ever seen

  5. Yep, there we go. That inning the Reds had THREE first pitch infield popups.

  6. Has Corky ever gone deeper than 3 pitches into an at bat?

  7. Will Dusty react with …”Gotta get Leake going…” and send Cingrani down. Anyone with a brain would say no. The obvious fix would be to make Leake the long man in the bullpen, and take advantage of his bat while saving pinch hitters for later in the game. Then again, its Dusty…

  8. I posted something about being skeptical about Cingrani yesterday. I believe I am sold now. I think it is time to start trying to package Arroyo or Leake in some sort of trade.

  9. It really looked like Paul misplayed that.

  10. Thom: Donald Lutz just tweeted, out on Twitter…

  11. Cingrani’s velocity down to 88-91 this inning. Maybe dialing it down intentionally. Maybe not.

  12. Thanks yet again Nationals!

  13. I was really unhappy with Paul until they got the out at home. Jeez. What in the world happened?

  14. Wow, Paul just got saved there. Drops the ball in left field and the runner gets thrown out at home to end the inning. Lucky.

    That was the second time Paul didn’t look good in LF that inning.

  15. XP pretty shaky in in the OF. Serious roster trouble in LF.

    • @Steve Mancuso:
      Silver lining is that Paul’s bat actually finds the ball. Give him more reps out in LF and he should improve. It takes time to really get a feel for balls jumping off the bat, and you don’t get that shagging flies in BP.

      • @D Ray White: I just can’t get that excited about XP at the plate. He’s 28 years old with over 500 AB in the majors and he has 6 homers in that time. Career .677 OPS which is not what you need in a LF. He’s been nothing more than a nice little left handed pinch hitter or spot starter. He’s been productive for the Reds so far, but there is zero reason to believe that making him a regular OF will lead to even so-so production. There’s a reason he’s never been a starter in three organizations.

        • @Steve Mancuso:

          His career OBP is .309. That’s not great, but it’s not horrible, especially on a team like this, no matter what position it comes from.

          The Reds get slugging from other non traditional positions (2B and SS), so you shouldn’t get down on a guy because he plays a traditional power position but isn’t a power hitter.

          Granted, I don’t think he’s a starter anymore than Heisey is, but criticizing him on the basis of his OPS is misguided.

          • @CI3J: A .309 OBP is pretty awful actually. He doesn’t have enough power to outweigh that. He’s an okay spot starter/ocassional platoon guy, but Paul + Cozart + Hanigan/Corky are a lot of weak hitters in one lineup.

          • @CP:

            I know it’s not great, that’s why I added the caveat “especially on a team like this”.

            Do you know what the Reds OBP was as a team last year? .315. Paul’s OBP is right around that, so again, for a team like this, it’s not horrible.

        • @Steve Mancuso:

          The same could easily be said for Heisey. Makes it a conundrum, wouldn’t you say?

  16. That shaky camera is enraging.

  17. Nationals! Go Nationals!

  18. Cozart has black magic or something. I swear he gets on base more from errors than anyone else I know.

  19. Rendon is not ready.

  20. At this point the Nationals have scored one more run than the Reds this series – surprising

  21. Cingrani’s velocity is definitely down. I’d say this is his last inning.

  22. Nats TV announcer: The Nats are only one swing away from tying this game up.

    Hmmm. Must be new rules.

  23. I’d think this will be the last inning for Cingrani…he’ll go over 100 pitches this inning. LeCure 7th, Broxton, 8th, Chapman 9th.

  24. What is Cingrani looking at between pitches? Reds bench?

  25. Well, Cingrani is in the 6th, so as I said, I’m impressed, but he’s pushing 100 pitches.

    If he can learn to get his pitch count under control, ala Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey, he could really be something. As it is, he’s a pretty good pitcher, but still has a few things to learn.

    Bright things are ahead for young Cingrani.

    • @CI3J: We’ve had this discussion a lot, I get what you are saying, but I wouldn’t be telling Cingrani to change too much right now. I love the strikeouts. One thing he could improve is avoiding so many deep counts.

      • @CI3J: We’ve had this discussion a lot, I get what you are saying, but I wouldn’t be telling Cingrani to change too much right now.I love the strikeouts.One thing he could improve is avoiding so many deep counts.

        Right, that’s what I meant.

        Don’t get my wrong, strikeouts aren’t a bad thing, but they do tend to lead to deep counts.

        Sometimes it’s better to just fools guys and let them get themselves out.

  26. Cingrani got it back up to 95 to strike out Harper.

  27. If there’s anything that could have made me like Cingrani more, it’s how he’s been making Harper look downright silly.

  28. I’m sorry Mike Leake fans, but it’s time to admit that Tony Cingrani should take his spot.

  29. Well, count me as impressed. That game was a much stronger indicator of his talent than vs. the Cubs or Marlins.

  30. Wow.. 6 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 BB, 11 K…. you simply can’t ask for anything more dominant from a 23-year-old rookie.

  31. Wow, just wow. If Cingrani goes down after Cueto returns the internet will explode.

  32. The Reds officially have themselves a rotation controversy when Cueto comes back.

    • @Steve Mancuso: Controversy? Semes like a debate with one side saying 1+1=2 and the other 1+1=3.

      I’m certainly not sure Cingrani will outperform Leake over the next 5 months, it’s only 3 starts…but the probability is well over 50%, IMO.

    • The Reds officially have themselves a rotation controversy when Cueto comes back.

      I hope you are right, but seriously, can you see Dusty saying goodbye to a mediocre veteran like Leake? If Cingrani threw a no-nitter, Dusty might concede to putting him in the bullpen, but I would be absolutely shocked if Cingrani stayed in the rotation.

    • @Steve Mancuso:
      Not much of a controversy. Leake was handed the #5 when all evidence pointed to him not deserving it. Leake has done little to reinforce his spot in the rotation since the start of the season.

      Leake is what he is: a finesse guy with an ERA from 4.5-6, who gets crushed when he misses spots and becomes hittable the 2nd time through the lineup. He’s been this way since the All Start break of 2011. The Sam LeCure route of transitioning to the long man in the bullpen from starter is an obvious solution to this problem.

      Cingrani deserves an extended look @ #5, especially if the Reds refuse to stretch out Chapman during the season and move him into the late season/postseason rotation. Leake deserves to go to the pen or down to AA to hone his craft. When you only throw high 80’s, you need pinpoint control and the ability to mix it up. Leake doesn’t have that right now.

  33. Nice game by TC. 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 11 K.

  34. All I can say is a big “bleep bleep” to the Reds organization for not throwing him in game 4 last year. They went with the safe choice, and the safe choice wasn’t a good choice.

  35. The announcement of Cueto’s return should also include the announcement of our new full time #5 starter: Tony Cingrani.

  36. Even if statistically Cingrani and Leake was a wash, which in the long run it might be, I think having a lefty in the rotation could be beneficial on matchups with certain clubs.

  37. Cingrani will get at least 1 more start. Don’t think Cueto will be back this week.

  38. I think Leake’s time in the rotation is just about done.

    However, I still think he can be a useful piece. He’s a slightly below average starter, so he could be a trade piece, or he could become a long man in the bullpen ala Sam LeCure’s role last year. They are actually similar pitchers, not a lot of velocity, but lots of movement and deception.

    Plus, Leake is like having an extra bat off the bench. That can be invaluable.

  39. Watching Leake pitch the game before Cingrani only makes the easy decision much more obvious. Ray Charles could see it.

  40. Wow, LeCure really can’t throw a strike right now. That’s not good.

  41. This feels like a game that’s going to be lost without Chapman ever pitching.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: A creative manager would throw in Chapman right now, and hopefully end the bleeding here. High leverage.. rather than in like two innings with a 3 run lead, nobody on base, and the 6-7-8 batters coming up or something.

  42. Wow, what happened there? Sam was just completely unable to throw strikes.

  43. Wow…LeSam had a bad outing. I think I just saw a pig fly by my window.http://redlegnation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

  44. The LeCure is worse than LeDisease.

  45. This game isn’t over. Bullpen has got to take care of business.

  46. The spot for Aroldis, but it’ll never happen.

  47. Why am I nervous and pacing?

  48. Phew… lucky.

  49. Great play by Marshall

  50. Corky looks like Guy Fieri of Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives, only bigger.

  51. Ok, I can breathe now.

  52. Great to have Marshall back.

  53. This Marshall guy is pretty good. Maybe we should be happy he isn’t the closer…he actually gets to pitch in high leverage situations.

  54. At least Paul waited all the way until Pitch #2 to get out this time.

  55. If the Pirates beat the Cards today (its 3-0 Pirates bot 6th) the Pirates will be in first place in the Div. A nice reminder of how early in the season it is.

  56. Why in the WORLD do you put a pinch hitter in to bunt? At the very least put in a pitcher. They’re supposed to be great at bunting.

    • @ToddAlmighty: That’s so absurd it just makes me upset. Why does Robinson need to come in to bunt? Can’t Marshall bunt? Or if not, put in Leake to bunt. You might need him to pinch hit later. Probably not, but still.. why burn a position player to bunt?

    • @ToddAlmighty: Why are we trying to bunt Corky over? It seems likely that we will just waste an out replacing the runner on first.

  57. Corky Miller was thinking “I’m getting too old for this ****.”

  58. I am somewhat concerned for the safety of Reds batters right now.

  59. Loved the graphic on TV of all the places Choo has been hit by pitch. But really Thom “hit in the fanny”?

  60. Does anyone actually need to take their bat off their shoulder for this guy? I’d just stand up there and expect him to walk me before striking me out.

  61. I’d like to point out that the guy who just walked 3 straight batters including one who was trying to bunt? Xavier Paul got out on 2 pitches, only 1 of which was a strike.

  62. Corky has scored two of five runs.

  63. Nice day for Cozart….and dare I say it….2 runs scored by Miller.

  64. Corky Miller runs like the Babe, minus the speed. But hey, we all like Corky. Gonna be a great coach sooner rather than later.

  65. Watching Corky run puts a smile on my face. Ya gotta love it, he gives it everything he’s got.

  66. 36,457 showed up for today’s titanic struggle, 36,457.

  67. Oh lord.. we’re getting the sermon of RBI > OBP.

  68. Just me or is Broxton getting squeezed awfully hard?

  69. Broxton is a human rain delay.

    • Broxton is a human rain delay.

      Imagine if Broxton had had to pitch to Mike Hargrove. He was actually called the human rain delay.

  70. Not sure even Stubbs would have had that.

  71. Howdy! I am at work. Heard Marty say Cingrani tied Nuxhall for something. Can you tell me
    ? Who is coming up from AAA?

  72. I realize it’s illegal to use a closer in a non-save situation, but Chapman should have been pitching the 8th. Then you almost certainly take a 4 run lead into the 9th with the bottom of their order due up. Yes, the Reds probably win the game either way, but I’m so tired of Baker insisting on making everything more difficult than it needs to be.

  73. Why does it always seem like Chapman pitches to 7-8-9

    • Why does it always seem like Chapman pitches to 7-8-9

      Because Baker doesn’t care about such things.

  74. I have been out all day and just caught up on the DVR. Hopefully Cingrani today quieted the ridiculous notion that he isn’t ready. He’s more than ready. The kid is a stud.

    • @AnnapolisHoosier:

      As I keep saying, he looks good so far, but he really needs to learn to go deeper into games.

      Lots of young pitchers have had to learn to overcome this flaw, our own Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey among them.

      • @AnnapolisHoosier:

        As I keep saying, he looks good so far, but he really needs to learn to go deeper into games.

        Lots of young pitchers have had to learn to overcome this flaw, our own Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey among them.

        He went 6 innings today which is fine. Mike Leake can’t go 6 without giving up 6 runs. It’s not even close.

        • @AnnapolisHoosier:

          100+ pitches in 6 innings isn’t ideal. He’ll get it together eventually, and when he does, he could be superb. As it stands, he still needs work.

          But yeah, he’d probably be an upgrade over Leake over the course of a full season.

          Probably.

          • @AnnapolisHoosier:

            100+ pitches in 6 innings isn’t ideal. He’ll get it together eventually, and when he does, he could be superb. As it stands, he still needs work.

            But yeah, he’d probably be an upgrade over Leake over the course of a full season.

            Probably.

            Probably? LOL

          • @AnnapolisHoosier:

            Yes, probably. No denying he’s off to a good start. See where he is an a month or two.

  75. Here comes Chapman to make his valuable contribution to the Nationals series. One inning with a three-run lead facing the bottom of the order. What a waste.

  76. If the Gameday pitch locator is anything close to accurate, the HP umpire needs an eye exam … and that goes both ways.

  77. The last 3 innings have taken FOREVER. COme on CHapman wrapt this up…got things to do!

    • @Stephanie: Most certainly. It feels like the last 3 innings has been as long as the other 6. Part of that might have to do with how fast Cingrani’s pace is compared with how slow Broxton’s is.

  78. Can he please use something beside a fastball once in a while.

    • @Truman48:

      No need to. Each batter is only going to see him once, so why bother?

    • @Truman48: He will next year when he’s a starter for the Dodgers or White Sox… and not pitching with a 3 run lead against the 7-8-9.

      Chapman to the Dodgers or White Sox next year for prospects and a bunch of cash that’ll go directly to paying for re-signing Choo.

  79. WOOHOO!!!! About time!

  80. The advantage of a slider

  81. Wow. That game was absolutely fun to watch for the first 6 innings, but then it had to drag on FOREVER. The Nats seemed to be much more patient at the plate than Reds.

  82. Reds avoided the sweep, plus got a great performance from Cingrani. A good day for the Reds all and all. The Cards are up next with Wainright pitching the opening game of the series. Should be a good old good one. Go Reds!!! Adios Amigos.

    • @Sergeant2:

      Latos/Wainwright is a sound opening indeed.

      Get after it Redlegs and start working on evening out that road record!

  83. Corky is 3 automatic outs.

    It’s remarkable the absurd things some people try to get away with saying.

  84. Regarding Tony Cingrani, like my old buddy Jed Clampett used to say, “Wellllll Doggies.”
    They said Cingrani pitches next against the Cubs and Smardzjian. That should be a great matchup. He has 1 more start then the dilema begins. Leake?? Arroyo??

    LF has been a thorn in the side of the Reds all season. Time to address that is now. Arroyo’s trade value may not be any higher this season than it is now. Can always re-negotiate the due deferred money or buck up and pay it now.
    What is best for the Reds?? Wait another month and see what works out in LF, then offer up a Leake or Arroyo?? Do something now? Do nothing?

  85. Play Leake in left field.

    Chapman has pitched 12 ninth innings. He is 2-1 with 5 saves.

    Cingrani has pitched 18 innings and is 2-0

    Which left handed pitcher has contributed more to the team?

    Today’s win had Stopper written all over it. We needed this start by Cingrani today.

    Too bad that Chapman didn’t want to be “that guy”

  86. I was upset today with Dusty in putting in Marshall instead of Parra to shut down the Nationals….just kidding…..wonder what happens with Parra and his ultra high ERA when he comes back from the DL??

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A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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