For Games played on 4/14:

Minor League Player of the Day: Former Royals farmhand and Blue Wahoo starter, LHP Ryan Dennick, wins today’s award on pretty weak day. He threw 6 innings, allowing only 1 earned run (2 overall) on 5 hits, walking 1 and striking out 4. The Reds are trying to make a starter out of Dennick, after relieving most of his minor league career. Thus far this year, through 2 starts, he’s 1-0 with a 2.45 ERA and a WHIP of 1.091. His K/9 is only 4.1 (down significantly from his relief numbers) and his K/BB ratio is only 1.67.

Triple – A
Louisville 2- Toledo 1

Story of the day was Tony Cingrani being pulled after just 2 no hit/ no run innings (he struck out 5). IMO, we’ll be seeing him this week in Cincinnati.

Chad Reineke followed him with 4 innings of 5 hit / 1 run baseball. Jose Arredondo threw 2 shutout innings (1 BB/4 K’s). Kevin Whelan picked up his 2nd save.

Henry Rodriguez was the only Bat with more than one hit, going 2-4 with a double.

Double - 
Mobile 5 – Pensacola 2

Doing a Reds immitation, the Blue Wahoos blew a 2-0 lead, losing 5-2. Donald Lutz was 2-4 with a double and an RBI. David Vidal was 1-3 with a solo homer (1).

Ryan Dennick went 6 innings, allowing 2 runs, 1 earned on 5 hits, a walk, and 4 strikeouts. Kyle Lotzker, in relief, was ineffective. He threw 2/3 of an innings, allowing 3 hits and a run. Drew Hayes gave up 2 runs on 3 hits in an inning of work.

High – A
Stockton 9 – Bakersfield 2

The Blaze lost for the 10th time in 11 games, committing 4 errors and only getting 7 hits.

Juan Silverio went 3-3 with a double and a triple, but also made 2 of the 4 errors (both fielding). Juan Perez went 2-4

Wildness again was a problem for a Blaze starter, as Tanner Robles walked 4 in 4 innings of work, while also giving up 4 hits in giving up 7 runs (6 earned) in 2.2 innings. Sammy Diaz threw a scoreless 9th.

Great Lakes 13 -Dayton 4

The Loons put it on the Dragons in an ugly game that saw 7 errors committed (3 by the Dragons). Jeff Gelalich went 2-4, as did Carlos Sanchez (double).

Reds 2011 #1 pick, Robert Stephenson had a bad day, only getting through 2.2 innings and allowing 8 runs (6 earned) on 8 hits. Jesus Adames allowed 1 run on 4 hits in 3 innings of relief and Joel Bender threw a scoreless 9th.

11 Responses

  1. Shchi Cossack

    Let’s see if I have this correct…

    Cingrani was drafted from college as a closer with one plus pitch. Cingrani strikes out an extraordinary number of batters per 9 innings, making him very effective at every level of the minor leagues after the Reds convert him to a starter, but he still only has one plus pitch. So when the Reds need an emergency starter, they reach down to the minor leagues for a replacement who strikes out a lot of batters with only one plus pitch, his fastball, and everyone in the Reds organization sees gaga and thrilled over bringing him up rather than allowing him to finish his development and improve his secondary pitches in the minor leagues.

    Chapman was signed as a starter and converted to the bullpen so the Reds could get a more immediate return on their investment rather than having Chapman simply dominate in the minor leagues. Chapman strikes out an extraordinary number of batters per 9 innings, making him very effective in the bullpen, but he still only has one plus pitch. Because Chapman does not have a plus secondary pitch (even though he makes hitters look silly when he actually prepares as a starter and uses his secondary pitches), the Reds determined that Chapman will be ineffective as a starter since he only has one plus pitch, his fastball. So the Reds abandon the opportunity to allow Chapman to prove his ability as a starter and put him in the bullpen where he will apparently pitch sparingly since “the games didn’t dictate him being in there.”


    • ToddAlmighty

      @Shchi Cossack: I don’t know, I think Chapman has two plus pitches. I think both his fastball and slider are pluses, granted I also see Chapman as a three pitch guy, who just simply doesn’t have the need to throw three while pitching 60-70 innings, with 3-run-leads and against the 7-8-9 or 8-9-1. I still remember last spring training when he had three pitches working for him. Fastball, Slider, Changeup.

      I forget which game it was, but I recall an interview/commentary talking about how players say that Chapman’s fastball isn’t the unhittable pitch, it’s just rough. It’s the slider that’s the unhittable one.

      All that Chapman starter/closer business aside, I am excited to see Cingrani get his chance, though I am not particularly excited how it came around. I’d much rather have a healthy Cueto and an unhealthy Leake.. or Bailey. I hope he does well, because he’s certainly part of the future of Cincinnati starting pitching. Him, Corcino, and Stephenson.

    • WVRedlegs

      @Shchi Cossack:

      I got a chuckle from your comments. Sad but true. And this from the front office that was voted the Organization of the Year last year. Makes you wince to think what the Astros and Marlins front offices are like.

    • localboy

      @Shchi Cossack: The Reds did not determine Chapman would be ineffective as a starter. Your words, not theirs. That is a classic strawman argument.

      Do you believe Chapman is ready to go 200 innings this year ?

      • Bill Lack


        Do you believe Chapman is ready to go 200 innings this year ?

        Nobody has ever claimed he would, but he’d throw more than 71, which is what he threw last year. And he’s never going to get to 200 (assuming he can) if they don’t start stretching him out at some point.

        How is the way Dusty is using him now helping the team?

      • localboy

        @Bill Lack: He goes to arbitration next year, free agent after that. How does it help the Reds to train the next Yankee starter ?

        He wants to close, we need a closer and this helps because Chapman is ready to close.

        I, for one, dont see Chapman on our team after next year. We dont have the money to match the East coast rich boys. Our best chance is to sign the free agent Chapman as a 50 million dollar closer, from my view. Besides, Broxton cant close

      • ToddAlmighty

        @localboy: Didn’t need to go 200. Mike Leake went 179, and that was without any injury time. Figure a couple games missed due to some kind of nick or bruise (finger blister, fatigue, illness) and he’d really only need to pitch 160 or so.

        I’d certainly take 160 of him over 70 with 50 coming with 2-3 run leads and against the bottom of the lineup.

      • localboy

        @ToddAlmighty: I agree, thats the Randy Johnson timeline……3 years from now with a two year deal. We spend three years preparing him to dominate a starting lineup and then play against it…….

  2. localboy

    Chances are Cingraani will be in our bullpen in 2013. He appears to be on a similar course as Chapman.
    Chapman pitched, in 2009 playing for Cuba, 118 innings. In 2010 he started in the minors and logged 95 innings, wearing down as the season went along.

    So now, because we want it, he is ready to log 200 innings as a starter……or we want him for half a year to sooth our own egos…..

    • Greg Dafler

      @localboy: Bill’s already answered your 200 innings comment above. I haven’t heard or seen written anywhere that anyone expected him to go 200 innings this season. What we did hear was that the Reds were considering the “Kris Medlan” plan, which is that he starts the season in the bullpen and switches to the rotation mid-year. That would have kept his innings in the 150 range and enabled him to be available for the post season (unlike what Washington did with Strasburg last year.)

      My recollection isn’t just that Chapman “wore down” as the 2010 season went along. I think we saw in both 2011 and 2012 that Chapman has trouble with back-to-back days, or at least with heavy regular usage. He pitched better with off days, and sometimes need 2-3 days if he pitched 2 or 3 in a row.

  3. Shchi Cossack

    I didn’t want to necessarily put a hard boot to that expired equine, but one of the concerns often repeated when the Chapman decision was officially announced was ‘what if…’. Well the ‘what if’ has become ‘what now’. Even if Cingrani performs well, bringing him up now is a bad decision, being made out of necessity or even desperation.

    Another factor is that Cingrani is going to be needed as a starter next season anyway to replace Arroyo, leaving the Reds in the same position next season as this season with the execption that there will be no one left to bring up in an emergency situation.