Let’s recap today’s titanic struggle….

FINAL
Cincinnati 13
St. Louis 4

W: S. LeCure (1-0)
L: M. Boggs (0-1)
BOX SCORE

POSITIVES
–I just love spoiling the Cardinals’ home opener.

–The Reds were battling all day, drawing to within one run of the Cards on three different occasion, but trailing all the way. Then, in the eighth, the Reds tied up the game on a Xavier Paul RBI single. In the ninth, the Reds blew the game open, scoring nine runs on six hits, five walks, and an error.

–Jay Bruce reached base five times: 4-5 with two runs, an RBI, and a walk. Brandon Phillips had a homer and a double in the ninth that scored the go-ahead run. He had two runs, two RBI, and a walk.

–Mat Latos is having the first solid April of his big league career. Today, ol’ One-T threw six innings of one-run baseball, allowing four hits and one walk. He struck out five, and lowered his ERA to 2.84 on the season.

–The bullpen was outstanding. Alfredo Simon, Sam LeCure, and JJ Hoover delivered three no-hit innings of relief.

–Chris Heisey had two doubles and an RBI. Shin-Soo Choo (more on him later) had two hits including a double, a walk, scored two runs, and drove in three. The guy can flat hit.

NEGATIVES
–We were all afraid that Shin-Soo Choo would have a difficult time adjusting to playing a new position this season. Well, he botched two fly balls in center field tonight. It was an ugly performance from a guy who is still learning the intricacies of playing center.

NOT-SO-RANDOM THOUGHTS
–Well, this has just been a crazy season so far. Five wins in seven games, with two extra-innings losses.

–Cincinnati has scored 51 runs in seven games this year. That’ll do, Reds. That’ll do.

–I agree with St. Louis starter Jaime Garcia: “It doesn’t really matter how we lose the game, stuff happens,” Garcia said. “You know what, they’ve got a good thing going on.”

–Thank you, Mitchell Boggs.

–The difference between Choo and Drew Stubbs defensively in CF is very, very clear. Also clear is the difference between the two at the plate. I’m fine with Choo.

–Last Reds center fielder to commit two errors in a game? Deion Sanders on April 28, 1995. Choo is better than Neon Deion (Leon Sandcastle) too.

–An Associated Press writer from St. Louis called the Cardinals the “defending NL Central champions” in his game story. I seem to recall a different team winning the Central last year.

–Today’s game was played before the largest regular season crowd in Busch Stadium history. That just makes this win a little bit sweeter, don’t you think?

–Many thanks to Jason Linden for pulling double duty on the Titanic Struggle Recaps while I was out of town last week.

–I like it when the Reds go. “Go Reds,” you know? Well, the Reds went tonight.

–Okay, the Redlegs and the Cardinals get back together tomorrow evening. Bronson Arroyo will face Lance Lynn. Another win would be very nice indeed.

Source: FanGraphs

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Join the conversation! 155 Comments

  1. For all the Dusty bashing I have done in my life, I would be remiss if I didn’t give credit where credit is due for a thoroughly out of the box, brilliant managerial decision to pinch hit Paul in the 8th on the double switch. Even if it hadn’t worked, that was some flat out good strategy and the fact that it blew the top off the game just made it sweeter.

    Also, check out that curve at the end of the game chart. Not sure ive ever seen anything like that. Great great win.

    • @eric nyc: Tell me about it. XP made dusty look like a real genius on that one. Kudos to both.

    • @eric nyc: Do we have to credit Dusty with a good game-time decision? Really?? Oh, okay. Well done Dusty.

      • @TC: I, possibly one of the biggest Dusty bashers, will give Baker credit on that one.

        That said, I have to include, jokingly:

        Baker in the 9th, “What is all that base-clogging going on out there?”

  2. I don’t have the words for that ninth inning. I felt like Chevy Chase looking out his kitchen window in Christmas Vacation. “Mele Kalikimaka is a fine way to win a baseball game….”

    Looking ahead, I think XP has earned a couple of starts against a couple of righties.

  3. That 9th inning sure made my commute to work much more interesting.

  4. Strange Es for the Choo choo train. The second wasnt a misread, but a misglove. But, he brought his bat to the park, too. Lets go redlegs.

    • Strange Es for the Choo choo train.The second wasnt a misread, but a misglove.But, he brought his bat to the park, too.Lets go redlegs.

      The recap at reds.com gives a great perspective on Choo’s game — how bad he felt, and how his teammates picked him up. He’s even quoted as saying, “I almost died. My teammates gave me another life.” How perfect for Choo to start the BIG rally with a walk. And later drive in three runs – the same number he gave up with his errors.
      …and of course, the fact that the wlb’s were on the receiving end of all this makes it unbelievably wonderful.

      • @RedinTenn: On mlbnetwork video they showed Latos talking to Choo, doing what he could to cheer him up. And Latos must have been feeling pretty crappy himself at that point. Gives me a good feeling about this team.

    • @hoodlum: I didn’t get to see the game; I had to work. But, I saw the video of the “scoring error”. I think Stubbs would have had difficulty on that one, also; he goes backward horribly. If anything would save Stubbs, it’s the fact that he plays so far back because he goes back so bad. The sun was right in Choo’s eyes. Not that Stubbs wouldn’t have gotten it nor Choo should have gotten it; it seemed like a difficult catch to make. Not only a hard hit ball but also fighting the sun, not to mention the guy is still effectively learning the position. You can’t practice balls like that. You need game experience. Choo will be fine. I’d still much rather have Choo than “he who not be named”, who is currently batting 160 BA/160 OBP with 11 K’s in 25 AB’s, no runs. Oh, he has an error also himself this year.

      • @steveschoen: Nah…29 starting CFers and 27 or so backups make that catch 10 times out of 10. That was a flat out horrible defensive play that cost 2 runs, an inning of starting pitching from Latos, and nearly the game. Choo definitely redeemed himself and his offense as a whole more than makes up for the occasional gaffe, but there’s no excusing that error.

        • @eric nyc: I never said anyone would or wouldn’t get it. I even specified that. With the sun in the player’s eyes like it was, it wasn’t as easy as it seems. You can’t watch the ball in the sun.

          • @steveschoen: I had heard a lot about the two “dropped routine fly balls” before I actually saw them. The first inning play was less routine than I expected, but he did have a bead on it. The second error was on a routine fly, he just dropped it. He’ll improve.

          • @pinson343:

            The solution is obvious to everyone in baseball except for ole Dusty. Play Heisey in CF, Choo in LF.

          • @per14: That I entirely agree with.

          • @pinson343:

            @steveschoen: I had heard a lot about the two “dropped routine fly balls” before I actually saw them. The first inning play was less routine than I expected, but he did have a bead on it. The second error was on a routine fly, he just dropped it. He’ll improve.

            On the second ball, it was just a flat out drop, playing CF had nothing to do with it, could have happened in CF/LF/RF whatever..remember the one Bruce dropped last year against the Giants (I believe) in a Sunday game that lost the game? Anyone can drop or kick an easy one once in a while, no one is perfect…its how OFTEN they do it that matters.

          • @Bill Lack: I entirely agree. But, on Bruce’s, I don’t remember the sun being in his eyes on it.

  5. This was my favorite day!!!!

  6. I know it won’t happen but if by The ASB Choo is still at around the pace he is right now I would Like to see Bob make an offer to Choo for say 4 teared and around 45-50 million.

  7. lol do yourselves a favor and find a replay of the last pitch of the Tampa/Texas game.

    Worst.Call.Ever.

    • lol do yourselves a favor and find a replay of the last pitch of the Tampa/Texas game.

      Worst.Call.Ever.

      Definitely. Marty Foster should be suspended.

    • @CP: Just terrible. A disgrace.

      • @Chad Dotson: But baseball needs the human element! If we replace the home plate umpire, what’s next, Robot baseball players? 😀

        • @CP: I’m not in favor of replacing the Ump, but there should be a tone in his ear indicating balls and strikes from the PitchFX to help him made better decisions. Obviously the final decision of balls and strikes should comes down to the Ump, not a machine. The machine should just be a just a tool.

          • As to whether a bad call or not, it was definitely a bad call. As to the replacement of the ump, I can’t say I would replace the ump. I definitely like the idea of integrating PitchFX or something. It “might” require a bit of rules changing or something. Because, isn’t the K-zone suppose to be defined as from knee to armpit? Well, those could be in different positions on different people. Like, Matt Holliday would have a different K-zone than Alex Gonzales.

          • @TC: I like this idea. Nobody would know in real time what the machine thought except the man making call. Afterwards it would be between the ump and his supervisor to what degree he ignored the technology and why.

    • @CP: Joe Madden put it well: “That kind of call cannot be made in a major league baseball game.”

      And Joe Nathan, on the occasion of his 300th save, did not serve himself well by saying he thought it was a “pretty good pitch” and was surprised that Zobrist (the batter) “didn’t take a better look at it.”

      Zobrist and Madden handled it well, considering.

      • @Chad Dotson: @pinson343: I was watching the game live and watched the Nathan interview after the game, so I’m not sure if you saw it in print and are misinterpreting it.

        Nathan was real diplomatic, and obviously thought it was a ball. He’s just saying that it was a good pitcher’s pitch and he thought Zobrist would at lease consider chasing after it, rather than immediately writing it off the way he did. There was nothing malicious about the statement.

        • @CP: I saw the Nathan interview a couple of times. I too don’t think he was being malicious, and I suppose I can’t really expect him to say: “Yeh the ump really blew that one.” I think a shorter answer that didn’t even mention Zobrist would have been better, but not a biggie.

          He was very diplomatic in terms of this being the first question (I think) after getting his 300th career save.

    • @CP: Oh man…Listen to the Texas broadcasters try and sugarcoat that one “Fox Trax show it was near the outside corner…That one went Joes way.” Meanwhile FoxbTrax shows it about a foot off the plate and further away than any other pitch in the at bat.

      I really do not understand why we can’t have computerized pitch calls. The ump can still be back there to judge on players checking swings, interference, calling time, balks, and plays at the plate. But if professional tennis can use laser sensors to judge important calls there’s no reason we can’t have pitch trackers give us instant indisputable calls. The only thing you lose is the catcher being able to frame pitches but if you like that about baseball then you probably don’t mind corked bats.

      • @eric nyc: I don’t, either. I can only imagine something in integrating the technology. If not that, it would be someone in administration not wanting to change what’s been laid down by peoples year’s previous. Like, we haven’t seen that before.

  8. I am not into S&M, but I sure loved that 9th inning. There might be 2 or 3, but I don’t think there are any more demoralizing ways to lose a game than what the Cards have happen to them today. In September, we may be pointing back to this game. The way the Reds chipped away at their lead with one run in the 7th and one in the 8th. Then the sink hole opened up underneath the Cards. Not only a great win, but a great way to win.

  9. Awesome game. Reds are awesome right now.

  10. Haven’t seen a Boggs get beaten that badly since Shawshank Redemption 😀

  11. I like what we’ve seen from Bruce the last couple of days. When he struck out to end the extra inning game, he was caught flat footed looking at the first pitch, a fastball at the knees away, then turned every which way but loose. The last two days he has been finding that away pitch and serving to the left side with positive effect.

    • @OhioJim: When I heard Bruce before this streak say, “He needs to simply stick with my routine, and I will be alright”, I was thinking, “Dude, your routine obviously isn’t working.” I have to say he probably made some changes to it. Keep it up, Bruce.

  12. Funny, I don’t think the Reds are awesome right now, and they could be 7-0. Their SP hasn’t been as good as it will be, and they really haven’t hit the ball very hard in the last couple games. They can hit better than they have, and they can pitch better than they have. A good sign.

  13. Great great at bat by XP. Fouls off 4 98mph fastballs, then laces a slider into right to tie the game.

    At first I really thought we blew it in the 8th. First, when Speier didn’t send the runner w/ 2 outs. Second, when Votto swung weakly on 3-0 against Choate, grounding out.

    I’m not gonna sweat the Choo plays. The sun was terrible out there. Second, on the first ball Choo probably felt he was about to run into the wall. Familiarity with the NL ballparks will help at the season progresses.

    What a day by Bruce. Seriously, have we ever seen him use the opposite field this much in a week?

    I think SuperTodd broke the ball when he took that 98mph fastball off his tricep.

    • @Sultan of Swaff: I really like XP, he’s made a positive impact since Day 1 with the Reds. The Reds’ bench is so much stronger than last year, especially early last year.

  14. My biggest Dusty critic thus far; You’ve got a future potential all-star catcher coming off a horrible 2012. The kid just had a fantastic spring. Then you sit him for 6 of the first 7 games including a day game after a night game 2 days after Hanigan caught 13 innings. Seems like you’d want to try to get Mesoraco more early ABs to keep up any momentum he gained in Arizona. Don’t get me wrong, I like Hanigan a lot. However, get Devin some ABs.

    • “Critique” that is….

    • @Summerfield: And you know Hanigan will catch today too. That should mean Mes catches 2 of the first 9 which is a rate that is lower than it should be.

      If it get’s rained out and the Reds get an off day then we could see Hanigan once more before we see Mes.

      • @rightsaidred: Agreed. And, Baker just before the season on the catching situation, “I will be mixing it up. After all, each pitcher has to be use to pitching to each catcher, don’t they?” Wise words, but no action yet to confirm it.

        Then, when it comes to the post season, like last season when Baker chose Navarro (granted a former All-Star but also coming from the minors) and not Mes, Baker’s excuse would be of the “He hasn’t been in the pennant race situations” variety, that’s only because Baker doesn’t choose him for those positions.

        At the beginning of the season, I had a question if Mes was still in Baker’s doghouse. It looks to me “so far” that Mes is still in Baker’s doghouse. Baker fans, “What are you complaining about? Baker always plays everybody.” Sure. But, playing Mes one out of 8 games? Not even a pinch hit call? Not even a day game after a night game, 13 innings at that? Again, “so far”.

  15. I feel like the concern with Choo in CF was his range, and that wasn’t really his problem today – he just seemed to have trouble catching balls that bounced off his glove, which seems like a different and unrelated problem. Heck, Jose Canseco let a baseball bounce off his head. It was a problem for Choo, but I’m not convinced that playing CF (rather than a corner OF spot) made a difference for that kinda mistake.

    I wonder how long Boggs will remain a closer, or if they’ll turn that role over to somebody else until Motte returns. Will we see Boggs again in this series? Marmol already lost his job on the Cubs and some Brewers fans seem to be calling for Axford’s head.

    I liked how most of the sellout crowd stayed until the 9th inning to watch the thrilling conclusion of the game. Most of them stuck around to see the Reds take the lead, before they started fleeing. If it wasn’t a special occasion more people might have left early – instead it was an extra big emotional blow throughout Cardinals country.

    I wonder if we’ll see Xavier Paul, Cesar Izturis, or Hannahan start in one of the next two games. Dusty said he wanted to give Frazier a day off… a few days ago… but that Frazier was hitting too well. A day off might help Cozart, and Izturis got a hit today. And Xavier Paul again showed his skill against RHPs.

  16. I honestly don’t know enough .. so this is a real question for those more in the know.
    Is it possible that Bruce is using opposite field to adjust to not being able to slug the ball out and get out of his slump? If so, does this have the potential for shortening his bad streaks?

    • @Love4Reds: I’m no hitting expert either, but Bruce himself said in an interview (on Reds mlb.com page) that he intentionally adjusted to going to the opposite field “to get going.” It can definitely shorten a slump.

      It can eventually lead to a power surge, in that it forces Bruce to “stay back” and not open his front shoulder. Once he’s staying back well, we’ll see HRs to all fields.

  17. Actually an entertaining article on Espn about closers. Entertaining because of its intro description of the Boggs’ meltdown today in his appearance against the Reds.

    And then of course .. Chapman listed #2 Closer after Kimbrel. 🙂

    Espn pisses me off so often.. I figure I should give them credit when they paint a nice picture for me.

  18. Who’s still missing Ludwick?

    Anyone?

  19. Reds doing great overall. Now, if we can get Z Cozart going. Reds have done a great job building their bullpen pitching. Best in the league last year. Should be up there if not the best this year. I don’t understand teams that take the bullpen for granted, and don’t build a good relievers staff like the Reds have. If I ever could talk face to face with any GM and Manager, that is what I would ask them. (If there bullpen was shaky)

  20. Positive: Chad’s first TSR of the season.

    Positive: Jason did a great job on the TSR front.

  21. “Many thanks to Jason Linden for pulling double duty on the Titanic Struggle Recaps while I was out of town last week.”

    Good to have you back. Quite honestly, I was somewhat concerned when I didn’t see any of your TSRs!

  22. When you crawl in a basement with no roof its just a hole.

  23. How bout scoring 12 runs without the long ball. Now that is a positive.

    • @RedTitan19: That’s what I like. I would love to see 5 straight singles than a single, a HR, then 3 straight outs. One way, we have at least 2 runs and still batting and no outs. The other way, we have two runs but the other team comes up.

  24. Most days I have to TiVo the games and watch them later so I can’t comment live. I love this site and all your insights, but not enough to give up the drama of the game. And what a fantastic, dramatic, satisfying win to spoil the Cards’ home opener. So, belatedly, here are my two cents so far:

    I know the sun didn’t make Choo’s errors any easier, but to me those looked like footwork, route problems much more than sun or wall proximity issues. I’d love to see Eric Davis working with Choo a lot more. Choo has the raw skills, but they do need to be polished. No one took better routes than E. Loved that “I got it” leg slap with the glove. That said, so far Choo looks like one of the best hitters in the league. Not just leadoff, any spot. Welcome to the Reds.

    I agree with Summerfield about Mesoraco. Hannigan looks a little over matched right now, and Mesoraco has earned some AB’s. The Reds will need him plenty, and I don’t see any reason not to get Mesoraco some starts.

    Did the Reds have a crummy bench last year? Already I can’t remember…

    Pretty good starting pitching so far, though I was a little worried that Latos was benefiting from a lot of hard hit outs early yesterday. But all in all, right where we were hoping. The bullpen looks strong too. Ask me again in a month or two how I feel about Mr. Baker’s one inning / one pitcher approach though…

    I love watching Joey Votto hit. Can’t wait until that actually starts. In the meantime, amazingly, he’s still an OBP machine.

    Nice work so far in unexpected slots for Heisey and Phillips, really nice work so far in expected slots for Choo, and Frazier. And if Bruce is only getting going holy hammering Hank batman that’s going to be fun to watch.

    Bring on week two. Baseball is fun.

  25. Tom Brenneman and Chris Welsh are each entertaining in their own way, but it really shows up in their comments that Welsh has spent time on the field. Tom is quick to express disappointment when a player swings at a first ptuch or the team gives it up in a five-pitch inning. But on the field it’s a different story, and Welsh knows it. When a guy like Garcia is on his game, batters look bad, but they are simply overmatched on that day.

    Garcia’s pitches all have movement. It’s easy to see from the center field camera, as the image is compressed. But from the batter’s eye … A little different.

    • @Mark Tokar: I like the Creeper. It’s just too bad the other guy does most of the talking. By the third inning, I get so irritated with Thom that I have to turn off the sound and listen to his dad on the radio.

      Perhaps a really, really cool TV enhancement in the future would be to have alternate announcers for a game using audio tracks. (That kind of technology would allow movies to be played in English/Spanish.) OR, at the very least allow the TV and Radio feeds to be synced up. The Reds control the rights on the radio side (after all it is the Reds On-Radio Broadcast). Perhaps they can negotiate something with FoxSports (or whomever) when they negotiate a contract.

  26. This was a fun game, but as Mo Egger tweated yesterday :

    Next time you’re thinking that the Reds don’t get any breaks, remember that half inning.

    They’ll take a butt whoppin’ like this at some point, lets remember today when that happens.

    But a couple of things that appear certain early about this team a) they didn’t spend all winter and spring reading about how good they were supposed to be, they’re trying hard to show people how good they are and b) there doesn’t seem to be much, if any, quit in this team. You’re going to beat them, you’re going to have to earn it.

    • @Bill Lack: And Sunday. Lots of dink hits Sunday and Monday.

      I really like the walks though. A lot.

    • This was a fun game, but as Mo Egger tweated yesterday : Next time you’re thinking that the Reds don’t get any breaks, remember that half inning.They’ll take a butt whoppin’ like this at some point, lets remember today when that happens.But a couple of things that appear certain early about this team a) they didn’t spend all winter and spring reading about how good they were supposed to be, they’re trying hard to show people how good they are and b) there doesn’t seem to be much, if any, quit in this team. You’re going to beat them, you’re going to have to earn it.

      I really think that Giants playoff series still sticks in their gut as a HUGE embarrasment on the City, the Team and them individually to not allow them to get HUGE heads…

  27. It really is a game of inches. BP’s bloop in the 9th hits right on the foul line. Heisey’s double past the third baseman actually went under the wrist and inside of the glove hand. He missed it by an inch or two. Choo’s first error just off the glove. Either way, another one for the “W” column.

  28. @pinson343: In the meantime, we should probably make a trade to replace him before we fall in too big of a hole.

    @CI3J: Now don’t go be all tooly. You are (or at least) were a better poster than that at the ole’ ESPN boards.

    BTW, you said yourself in one of the recaps from the nationals series that you would prefer to get a replacement LF.

    I happen to agree, Robinson seems like a nice kid and I admire his hustle, but some ML proven depth can only be a good thing in the event Ludwick has a slow recovery, or his swing doesn’t come back quickly.

    Regarding Choo’s errors, they were both worse-case senarios (going back, looking into the sun), but should have been made. All in all, he should be fine. If Ludwick has a medical set back though, it would probably be best if he move to LF.

    I have a question for all: Did anyone see a better reply on why Choo stopped at third on Heisey’s double to make it 3-4? I thought while watching the play he would score as Holliday took a long time to get to the ball even though he cut it off. If there was a better reply, I missed it while reading “Don’t let the pigeon Drive the Bus!” to the kids. They love it!

    • @Lost and Found: Great book… “Can I have five bucks?”

    • @Lost and Found:

      You were on the ESPN boards? Who were you? Don’t tell me Starpower…..

      And yeah, even I’m getting tired of posting this message again and again. I came down pretty adamantly in favor of internal solutions to replace Ludwick, and so far it seems like the team hasn’t missed a beat, or, dare I say it, has gotten better.

      So yeah, I think the point has been taken, but it’s something I’ll revisit in a month or so.

      I don’t expect the Reds to make (yet another) trade to shore up the outfield. I’m HOPING they sign Choo to an extension to be the LF of the future and tell Ludwick “For the sake of your health and the team, you will be our first bat off the bench for the remainder of the year” as I really don’t expect him to come back with anything close to his former power stroke.

      Then in the offseason, deal with the situation as needed

      • @CI3J:

        No not starpower, although his highlights of the minors were a good read. Surprised he and Lark havn’t popped up here or at Red Reporter.

        I posted under the same name but very infrequently, what with all the Bip clones, bananna-whatever, and ‘the poster that shall not be named’ carpet-bombing the board.

  29. I’m not worried about Choo in CF. He looks like a really good athlete to me.

    That said, let’s not kid ourselves: both of those errors are plays that most college CFs, and many high schoolers make. All major league CFs make that play. Wilson Valdez makes that play even while he’s thinking about coming in to pitch.

    If Choo is really a rental, I don’t quite understand why he hasn’t been moved to LF. I mentioned earlier they might be keeping the option to get a LF in July open. But Hamilton might be ready by September. I realize he’s learning CF, but so is Choo, and Hamilton has the advantage that he’s probably 50% faster than Choo.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: The thing about moving Choo to LF is what do you do when Paul (who can’t play in CF) is in the lineup and when Ludwick returns. Then you’d have to play Choo in CF anyway so he needs to learn it.

      We might see late game defensive replacements where Heisey replaces Choo in CF.

      • @pinson343:

        Actually, I don’t know where this idea that Paul can’t play CF came from. In the minors, MOST of his starts came in CF. (With a few seasons listed as just “OF” to boot, assuming that meant he played all 3 positions.)

        http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=paul–001xav

        He hasn’t played much in the majors, true, but I know he has played there some. He seems to be a decently fast guy, not a burner, but not Sean Casey either. I see no reason why he couldn’t spot start in all 3 outfield spots, just like Heisey.

      • @pinson343: Yeah, was CI3J said. I’m of the mind Paul’s not a bad CF’er at all.

        • @TC:

          How about straight from the horse’s mouth?

          Xavier Paul said it was helpful to learn from Dusty Baker on Saturday that he was starting Sunday.

          He said he approaches “with confidence” this opportunity to fill in along with Chris Heisey for injured left fielder Ryan Ludwick.

          “I don’t have Ryan’s power, but I have some tools – I can run a little bit, play all three (outfield) positions, put the ball in play,” he said.

  30. To C13J: we know that you don’t think the Reds need to trade for a LF right now. Most of this site agrees with you. A few people don’t and make reasonable cases for why they’d make a trade. Obviously, you can keep writing your comment every day the Reds win, but we get it.

    Actually, I might not mind seeing you post that about 95 more times, if you know what I mean.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate:

      About LF; I am fine with the front office being patient, but sometimes they way they handle short-term injuries and the DL (like Marshall recently) seems less like patience and more like procrastination. It’s a fine line between the two, no?

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate:

      Point taken. As I said earlier, I’m tired of posting it too.

      And as I also said, I don’t think the Reds need to make any trades to shore up the outfield unless we’re talking about getting Stanton or Bautista or someone like that. The Reds will be just fine with the players they have.

      Now, if you want to talk about packaging Cozart, Leake, and a prospect for an upgrade at SS, then we could talk. I have never been sold on Cozart and think he may become the next Drew Stubbs of the team, if you know what I’m saying.

      • @CI3J: I’m also worried about Cozart more than most here because he’s completely undisciplined at the plate. His main skill is that when he hits the ball well, it often goes a long way. That’s nice, but he’s going to have long slumps with the way he hacks up there.

        Hah, Stanton, my pipe dream.

        • @Hank Aarons Teammate:

          I never really got what people saw in Cozart. To me, he has always been Drew Stubbs 2.0. He swings at everything, almost never walks, has a little power and speed and plays great defense at a premium position.

          I actually wanted the Reds to keep Didi and trade Zack because I thought they could get a higher return on Zack, but I’m glad they traded Didi and got what they did.

          Now, I still want Zack gone. To me, he is the final weak link in our offense. Imagine if we had a SS who could actually get on base. He’s already 27 years old, so he should be entering his peak years now. If he’s hitting .250 something come the ASB with an OBP under .300, I’d hope Jocketty would look into moving him.

          • @CI3J:

            On one level, I get what you are saying, but I think the era of big-stick SS’s have disturbed our baseline preceptions. Guys like Jeter, Larkin, Nomar, A-rod, Tulo, etc. have really set the bar high. SS can be glove-first posistion, the reds problem last year was that they had similar players in Stubbs and Cozart both playing and hitting back to back on most days. You can hide one weak bat in a lineup, but two (in the NL) is hard to do.

            Even if Hamilton was still in the SS pipeline, his D was porous. If he can keep up the OBP, then playing him in CF with Choo in LF and Cozart at SS hitting 7/8 would still be very good.

      • @CI3J: I don’t think a trade would be needed either, unless 2 conditions:

        1) For an impact player like Bautista or Stanton

        2) A player for a player, like giving us Stanton, them taking Bruce, or something like that. For, I would be thinking, what happens once Ludwick comes back? If we have Stanton or Bautista, then we also have Bruce, and Choo, and Ludwick? Who sits? Who do we get rid of? We are actually going to have one of them sitting the bench? Ideal world, someone take Ludwick for Stanton in a trade like that, but no one will touch Ludwick right now.

        Yep, we will play Heisey and Paul, or even Robinson or even Lutz out, if need be, until we are pressed/forced into making that trade.

  31. @Bill Lack:

    But a couple of things that appear certain early about this team a) they didn’t spend all winter and spring reading about how good they were supposed to be, they’re trying hard to show people how good they are and b) there doesn’t seem to be much, if any, quit in this team. You’re going to beat them, you’re going to have to earn it.

    This ‘TEAM’ has heart and soul. They care about each other; they care about the team; they care about doing their best; they care winning with no excuses if thety don’t. I’ve never asked more from any team I’ve ever coached. This is why Votto signed on for his entire career. This is why Ludwick left $$$ on the table to play for the Reds. This is why Cueto will be here until 2016.

    @Sultan of Swaff:

    I’m not gonna sweat the Choo plays. The sun was terrible out there. Second, on the first ball Choo probably felt he was about to run into the wall. Familiarity with the NL ballparks will help at the season progresses.

    Choo has struggled with the wall when going back, but he plays a pretty shallow CF. If an adjustment is necessary, the coaches and special assistants will help him make those adjustments. Heisey also struggled on a play yesterday while going back and looking into that sun. He made the catch, but it was a tenuous play.

    @eric nyc:

    For all the Dusty bashing I have done in my life, I would be remiss if I didn’t give credit where credit is due for a thoroughly out of the box, brilliant managerial decision to pinch hit Paul in the 8th on the double switch. Even if it hadn’t worked, that was some flat out good strategy and the fact that it blew the top off the game just made it sweeter.

    I’m 2nd in line right behind you Eric. The move was very uncharacteristic for Dusty, but I applauded him when he made the move and I cheered for him when the move succeeded.

    • @Shchi Cossack: From what I have seen, Choo doesn’t struggle with the wall and going back nearly as much as Stubbs did. Remember Stubbs getting caught in the ivy at Wrigley.

  32. With Ludwick out and Heisey starting, I do not understand why you don’t play Heisey at CF. Doesn’t seem to make sense.

    • @Gregg:

      I think the idea is to let Choo play as much CF as possible getting better with repetition, so that when Ludwick returns, there is no remaining learning curve.

      But I think you’re right in that if Ludwick’s season comes into question, a move to LF would be a good one.

      • @Lost and Found:

        If Jocketty is following his familiar pattern of trading for a player then extending them, then I think a Choo move to LF is inevitable once Hamilton is ready.

        I do hope that is Jocketty’s longterm plan. Nothing against Choo in CF, despite yesterday’s game, I still think he’ll be fine out there, but Hamilton can no doubt cover more ground.

      • @Lost and Found: Choo will be fine. But, Heisey and Paul are the ones for CF. Not sure what card Walt is playing; that should be Baker’s decision. And, not sure why Baker doesn’t see it.

    • @Gregg: Too much moving around. He’s played LF less than he’s played CF in his career. He’s spent a couple months getting used to CF – it’s still not perfect, but I’d rather stick there then shift him, have another learning curve, and then have to shift him BACK in June or July when Ludwick’s back. That would be a disaster. He’s going to have his flubs, but it’ll be fine.

    • @Gregg: I think the Reds are set on having Choo play CF in the playoffs, and they’re going to have him getting ready all season long. Maybe LF will be filled all year by Heisey/Paul. Maybe Ryan Ludwick will be back. Maybe they’ll add a big bat from a trade. Either way I think it makes sense to stick with their plan – Choo in CF – and build around that, rather than try to re-institute it later in the year.

      If Dusty and Jocketty don’t want to play musical chairs in the outfield – fine with me.

  33. I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere else, so maybe I fell asleep at the wheel and dreamed for a moment.

    But as I was driving home from work listening to the game yesterday, I’d have sworn that Fay or whoever did the radio thing said that Dusty had mentioned wanting more patience at the plate, more extended at bats… or words to that effect.

    Did I aurally hallucinate, or did that really happen? They certainly didn’t seem any more patient than usual against Garcia.

    • @RC:

      “Early in the year, if you have a high pitch inning, just one of them, that does you in for one or two at-bats,” Baker said on Monday. “That’s why I urge my hitters, especially in the day of the pitch count, to be as many tough, foul-them-off at-bats as you can. Even if they strike out, at least you’re taking 10-12 pitches out of the guy. That’s equivalent to almost a whole inning from one person.”

      Not entirely adjusting or commiting to a more professional hitting approach, but at least a small step in the right direction.

      • @Shchi Cossack:

        Whoops, sorry, didn’t realize you posted that quote, thought you were just quoting RC.

      • @Shchi Cossack: Yeah, baby steps. But in a good direction.

        I said before the season that having Choo could be a demonstration of the power of OBP that nobody could miss. But it also appears that having Choo and Votto both up in the 1st inning will be a daily demonstration of the virtue of making pitchers throw a lot of pitches (note, he said “even if they strike out”. Yoda is teaching him well. 😉 ).

        Choo will be an educational experience for everyone on this team, including the coaches. AND the manager. And the General manager. And the owner…

        I’m very glad he’s here, even if it’s only for a season.

        PS – Does anyone else imagine that all this sudden enlightenment is directly related to the first inning we put up against Strasburg the other night?

        • @RC: Baker is having a decent year with game management so far. Not perfect, but who is (i.e. Hoover’s overuse).

          • @TC: I agree. It’s very refreshing and encouraging that he’s making some progress, even if he has a long way to go before he fits a ‘good game management’ category and like you pointed out, someone will question every decision he makes, no matter what the decision is or how he decides.

          • @TC: I, a Baker basher, agree. The less he gets involved with decisions and outthinks himself, the better this team is. And, so far, there haven’t been too many decisions. Like another mentioned, just a slight question on bullpen management, especially with Hoover.

    • @RC:

      Dusty did indeed say something to tht effect:

      ST. LOUIS — During Sunday’s 6-3 win over the Nationals, the Reds were successful at running ace Stephen Strasburg’s pitch count up early. Strasburg lasted only 5 1/3 innings and threw 114 pitches.

      Many starting pitchers aren’t as stretched out yet to go deeper in games, and Reds manager Dusty Baker wants his hitters to exploit that fact.

      “Early in the year, if you have a high pitch inning, just one of them, that does you in for one or two at-bats,” Baker said on Monday. “That’s why I urge my hitters, especially in the day of the pitch count, to be as many tough, foul-them-off at-bats as you can. Even if they strike out, at least you’re taking 10-12 pitches out of the guy. That’s equivalent to almost a whole inning from one person.

  34. Quoted from Mat Latos by Mark Sheldon:

    “I didn’t have good command early on and it was kind of bugging me,” Latos said. “I was pulling the slider away. I just made an adjustment. Especially against a team like that, those guys are going to get their hits and are going to score their runs. It’s good to be able to go out there with subpar stuff and be able to at least keep the damage to the minimum.”

    That is the stuff of a staff ace. We’ve seen from Cueto before and now we see it from Latos. Hey Homer, care to get in line too?

  35. As spectacular as this start to the season has been, it has been accomplished without serious participation from Joey V. Votto has performed as only Votto can while in a ‘slump’, hitting .240/.472/.320/792, but Votto has a career AVG of .316 and a career SLG of .550. Votto will get his stroke going very soon and then…

    • @Shchi Cossack:

      As spectacular as this start to the season has been, it has been accomplished without serious participation from Joey V.Votto has performed as only Votto can while in a ‘slump’, hitting .240/.472/.320/792, but Votto has a career AVG of .316 and a career SLG of .550.Votto will get his stroke going very soon and then…

      this team could be “scary good”…

  36. I thought that they held Choo at 3rd because Joey was coming to the plate. Don’t make the 3rd out at home when you’re best hitter (not so far, I know, but just wait) is up. I also thought that Choo scoring was far from a certainty–would have been close, at best.

    • @greenmtred: When that out represents the tying run late in the game, you absolutely force their hand. I’d take that chance 100% of the time. To get Choo out, they needed to make 2 accurate throws and catches under duress. At least a 50% chance of success. With Votto, about a 35% chance.

      The rule of thumb is that you send the runner if he has reached third before the outfielder lets go of his relay throw. Of course the arm strength of the defenders plus the distance/angle to home plays into it as well. Holliday has an average arm, but the angle would’ve made it difficult to put the throw on-line.

  37. “your” is what I meant.

  38. How much of a difference does getting on base at the top of the lineup and Frazier playing full time make?

    NL Team Offense:

    Runs – OPS
    51 — .821 – Cincinnati Reds
    43 — .796 – New York Mets
    41 — .908 – Colorado Rockies
    41 — .646 – St. Louis Cardinals
    40 — .782 – Arizona Diamondbacks
    33 — .759 – Atlanta Braves

    NL Team Pitching/Defense

    Runs – ERA – WHIP
    10 — 1.00 – 0.67 Los Angeles Dodgers
    16 — 2.29 – 1.13 Atlanta Braves
    19 — 2.55 – 0.98 Pittsburgh Pirates
    22 — 3.02 – 1.18 Colorado Rockies
    23 — 2.29 – 1.19 New York Mets
    25 — 2.74 – 1.12 Cincinnati Reds

  39. One T. I like that.

  40. Did I mention how much I love a leadoff hitter that gets on base?

    I’m just going to keep posting that.

  41. Scoring twice as many runs as you give up is a great recipe for the Win column. What would that run total be with BP batting 2nd and a real legit #4 hole hitter?? And with a zeroed in Votto and Bruce?? Now that would be “scary good”!!! Opposing pitchers will have many a restless night before facing the Reds lineup.

    Memo to WJ: Even if it is very distasteful to deal with agent Scott Borass, do so very soon and lock up Choo for a few more years. It’ll be worth every penny. The Reds need Choo’s OBP and Choo needs the Reds for him to get a championship ring.

    • @WVRedlegs: Maybe, just maybe, Choo will follow the Cano example and jetison the Demon agent so he can lock in a lucrative deal for a team he really wants to play for and teammates he really wants to play with.

    • @WVRedlegs: Of course, no team has everyone hitting at the same time. Even when the team is on a roll.

    • @WVRedlegs:

      I heard Lance Mcalister (so take this for what its worth on the source) saying that WJ did approach Choo about an extension during Spring Training. But that Choo and Boras perferred to wait until later.. as in after the season. Basically saying… he wanted to go to Free Agency.

  42. If Choo continues to hit like this the rest of the season, do you think they might consider keeping him?

    • @Gregg:

      Honestly, I think that was Jocketty’s plan all along. It would follow the M.O. he employed with guys like Marshall and Broxton, trading for them then signing them to long term deals.

      I would love it if they locked him up for 5 years. He was a guy I always liked but thought the Reds had no chance of ever getting.

    • @Gregg: If Choo continues to hit like this for the rest of the season I don’t think there’s any way we will be able to afford him. He could be in the MVP conversation if he does that…Which is why I don’t expect him to hit like this for the rest of the season.

      I think it’s a pipe dream that we keep him. We need to lock up Latos and probably Bailey. We’re going to need a new LF’er and cleanup hitter in the next year or two and that will probably have to come from FA. Joey’s price tag only goes up the next few years. Just don’t see how we could do it without something drastic changing with our payroll.

    • @Gregg: No, I don’t think there’s any chance of them keeping Choo. If Choo keeps playing well enough to be worth keeping he only makes himself more expensive on the free agent market. Jocketty already invested in Ryan Ludwick and trading Ludwick’s back-laden contract is even tougher than ever following his injury.

      Marshall, Broxton, and Rolen were all acquired by Jocketty with the possible goal of extending them, but I don’t think the same is true with Choo unless they come up with a way to move Ludwick’s contract.

      In other words, maybe if Ludwick hadn’t been signed extending Choo might be realistic.

  43. I’d have held Choo at third simply because… OH GOD OH GOD DON’T GET HURT WHATEVER YOU DO!!!!

    And I don’t think there’s the slightest possibility that BORAS (all caps because I regard him as an organization of evil, much like SPECTRE or KAOS or THRUSH or SMERSH or CHUMP) would let him extend early when a big season could net him YANKEE/SOX/ANGELS money.

  44. Can anyone comment on Izturis’s defense? Dusty seems to feel it’s at least equal to Cozart’s, since he keeps putting him in in the late innings. Is it really? If so, I like the flexibility it gives us. Last night it allowed Dusty to pinch hit XP, which was a great move.

    • @Eric the Red: I’d say Dusty seems to think it’s at least a wash since he has done it on a double switch twice before yesterday so far this year, but yesterday was more about getting the left handed PH’er up instead of Cozart’s cold bat, and as long as Izturis’ defense isn’t THAT much worse than Cozart’s, it was a smart move. Haven’t seen him have to handle anything too tough yet, but this team has put a strong emphasis on defense for a while now and I can’t believe Izturis would have gotten the utility job out of spring training if the whole organization didn’t think he was a plus defender.

  45. Let’s celebrate Todd Frazier’s first at bat in the 9th. He was down 0-2 in the count and took a few close pitches on the way to drawing the bases loaded walk that gave us a 2 run lead. He showed incredible patience and a great eye in a pressure situation. That’s as impressive and encouraging as a one-handed homerun.

  46. Something I had forgotten about until just see an article on the rule about running into catchers at the plate on SI – Forget what inning it was yesterday, but Heisey led off with a double and then went to 3rd on a wild pitch to Votto. Votto walked and BP hit a tapper to 2nd. Heisey made a really dumb decision and took off for home where the throw easily beat him. Still, for some reason Molina was a good 2 or 3 feet in front of home plate and it appeared as if a really good backdoor slide could have gotten Hesisey’s hand on the plate and beat the tag. But rather than try that, he noticeablly CHANGED DIRECTION about 10 feet form the plate and slid right into Molina’s ankles. Now, I hate Yadier Molina more than maybe any other player in the game, but that was a dirty play on Heisey’s part. Not only dirty but stupid. Even if you thought there was a chance you could Pete Rose the ball out of Molina’s glove with a collision, how do you think you’re going to do that with a feet first slide into his ankles? That play will get you a red card in soccer and for good reason.

    Anyway, there have already been some questionable base running decisions this year and there were plenty last year. I hope we work on that. And I hope Ryan Hanigan told Heisey to knock that crap off.

    • @eric nyc: Agreed. Sending the runner there is as dumb of a play as there is….and yet nearly ALL the teams do it. It’s as if they don’t trust the player to make a read on the ball and decide. Rather, they want to take any thinking out of the situation, even if the ball was scalded right at a defender. Drives me bonkers.

      • @Sultan of Swaff: The thinking there is to try to score and/or keep the defense from turning a double play. If he runs, 2 things can happen: 1) They turn a double play, but the run scores. 2) They get the guy at home, but we are left with guys on 1st and 2nd with one out. If he stays, the defense turns two and you’re left with a guy on 3rd and 2 outs. By running, you can possibly score the run or give yourself 2 chances to hit the runner in from 2nd instead of just one like you would by staying at 3rd. It makes sense to me to go.

    • @eric nyc: after making bad decision to go home, was Heisey merely attempting to break up double play? And wasn’t breakup of double play of value in the inning? If shot at Molina was bad, didn’t ump have prerogative to call batter out at first? Just wondering. Don’t know Heisey to be dirty.

      • @jas_428: I don’t know the answer to those questions. It didn’t look like there was any way there was going to be a play for a second out anywhere since Molina was going to have to spin fully around to tag Heisey rather than just get the force out at the plate. And I don’t mean to accuse Heisey of being a consistently dirty player, just saying that play was dirty. More than anything, I’m upset that it looked like he had a legitimate opportunity to score even after making the poor decision to go and he didn’t even try. I don’t even think he ended up touching the plate he ran so far off the line.

      • I agree. It certainly looked dirty to me. Molina is the biggest d-bag in the league, but you don’t go for his ankles like that.

    • but that was a dirty play on Heisey’s part

      I was a bit disappointed myself. If it had been anyone else but Molina, I would be more upset about it.

      • @TC: I didn’t get to see it, having to work. But, from what someone mentioned and I looked it up, I would bet no dirtier than Holliday’s was on Scurero last NLCS. Holliday didn’t even slide into a spec of dirt in front of the bag, literally slid on the back side of the baseline to take out Scutero and break up the DP.

  47. really, worried about Cozart? Yes he is young, but he plays the position so well.

    I was ok with Paul Janish because of his defense. Cozart has been brilliant defensively. I think I can give him a year or 5 to grow up at the plate.

    Nice to have him out of the top of the order at this point in his career. He is fearless, but he does need to develop as a hitter.

    Todd Frazier is not surprising me. Dusty’s use of Meso is

    • @reaganspad:

      Young? He’ll be 28 this year. He should be hitting his peak right around now.

    • @reaganspad: Honestly, part of me is surprised Baker didn’t put Cozart in the 2 hole after Ludwick got injured. I mean, he kept the guy there for so long last season; why not put him up there now? I have to think either Baker realized it was a stupid decision (to put Cozart in the 2 hole) about 8-10 months too late. Or, he thinks it’s a stupid decision to put Cozart so far down right now. Or, he thinks it is right doing two essentially opposite things with the same player the very next season. Seriously, I don’t want to think I’m not missing anything. But, am I?

      Mes’s use is just baffling me. Two games (I believe I mentioned only one before). He came in late in the rout of the Harpers. And, then his regular start. So, if we didn’t rout the Harpers that game, Mes only gets one game in so far. Compared with his use at the end of last season? I’m sorry, but this is getting more and more disgusting for me. Some talked about how poorly Mes performed last season. It is entirely possible that he performed poorly due to lack of playing time. Whatever happened to Baker’s “play your way out of a slump”? If Mes was in a slump, according to Baker, Mes should have been getting more playing time, not less? Whatever happened to that “We need to get him going” stuff? What, we aren’t going to need Mes? Again, Baker’s rep, his lack of ability in developing young players. And, the only skills that Mes is going to be able to develop are his painting skills. Meanwhile, he baseball skills are going to erode to essentially nothing.

      • @steveschoen: Oh, but then, Mes will get the obligatory start every 2 weeks or so. With the lack of playing time, he will not have his skills up and, thus, most likely not perform well. Then, Baker will go off on how Mes isn’t performing very well right now. Why would that be? Because Baker isn’t playing him enough. It’s the whole scenario of expecting the long man in the pen to be ready to perform only on the specific days when the long man is to be used. That may be once every 2 weeks. No one should be expected to perform well under those conditions.

        • @steveschoen: As for Mes, I think Dusty knew what a big first 3 series we had to open up this season and he desperately wanted to come out of them with at least a .500 record to set a tone. It’s the reason we haven’t seen Izturis get a start yet even on a Sunday day game with Cueto on the mound (where I assure you he will get more than a few starts throughout the year). I think that’s why Hanigan got the start catching Latos and Bailey in the first week whereas Mes will likely catch one of those guys (probably rotating between them) for the rest of the season. I also expect him to be the regular #5 day catcher as that will either be Leake, who he caught a lot last year, or Cingrani, who he had experience with in Louisville. In any case, I wouldn’t read TOO much into Mes’ use over the first 7 games because Dusty hasn’t been being particularly Dustyish with the lineups yet. Give him a little time to make some head scratching moves, because I think that’s also when Mes starts getting more regular playing time.

  48. I hoped Mes would start yesterday, and that he needs to be catching Latos. But Latos wasn’t particularly sharp yesterday, so in the end I’m glad Mes didn’t catch him and get the blame. (That said, if you look at Latos’s final line, it looks a lot better than it seemed while it was happening.)

  49. Robinson getting the start today, Cozart batting 2nd. I don’t mind getting Robinson a start, but what exactly does XP have to do to get more playing time? They’re both lefties so that doesn’t have anything to do with it. And god forbid Cozart picks today to get a couple hits because then you can pretty much pencil him in in that 2 spot for the next 3 months…

    • @eric nyc: I think Paul will get a few starts. I don’t have any issue with Robinson getting the nod today. It’s his first start since being brought up for the 2nd game of the season. Of course Paul has only made 1 start as well but we are talking about 4th and 5th OFers. I would be surprised if Paul doesn’t get a start against a hard-throwing RHP here soon.

      Would rather have Robinson hitting in the 2-hole over Cozart. Maybe Baker is thinking that Cozart will get more fastballs in front of Votto and he might get a couple hits.

      • @LWBlogger: Lance Lynn is a hard throwing RHP so wouldn’t now be a great time to start XP? I agree I’d rather have Robinson in the 2 hole than Cozart though.

    • Robinson getting the start today, Cozart batting 2nd. I don’t mind getting Robinson a start, but what exactly does XP have to do to get more playing time? They’re both lefties so that doesn’t have anything to do with it. And god forbid Cozart picks today to get a couple hits because then you can pretty much pencil him in in that 2 spot for the next 3 months…

      He’s FAST…. and it’s not a surprise or anything, but Hanigan again today.

      • @Bill Lack: Arroyo’s pitching. Of course Hanigan is starting. And if Robinson’s so fast, why not just bat him 2nd and leave Cozart alone? Like I said, I don’t mind him getting a start, but it really does seem like XP earned it if we were going to give Heisey a day off to get another lefty in the lineup. There will be plenty of Sundays for Robinson to play.

    • @eric nyc: Cozart hit .324 with a .366 OBP in 136 career ABs as a #2 hitter… so far. Maybe Dusty thinks that returning Cozart to a role in which he’s previously been successful will get him to start hitting. I’m fine with giving it a shot.

      I think Xavier Paul does deserve a start a game, but so does Robinson. On the bright side Paul remains valuable as a secret weapon/pinch hitter off the bench.

  50. Angels Jared Weaver to the DL with a broken elbow. That has to hurt, both him and the Angels. Maybe a Leake for Trumbo trade might not be out of the question, now. A guy who statrts every 5th game for an everyday LF, who hits RH and can bat in the #4 hole. And he is affordable. Makes 1/4 of what Leake is paid. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

    • @WVRedlegs: Tough blow for the Angels. I wouldn’t move Trumbo for Leake if I were them though. If I’m them and I’m offering Trumbo, I want a guy who can slide into the #3 spot of my rotation.

      • @WVRedlegs: Tough blow for the Angels. I wouldn’t move Trumbo for Leake if I were them though. If I’m them and I’m offering Trumbo, I want a guy who can slide into the #3 spot of my rotation.

        yeah, if Walt can pull that off my hat’s off to him.

    • @WVRedlegs: It’s not his throwing elbow, it’s only 4-6 weeks. They aren’t going to panic and trade for a #5 pitcher (and if I’m an AL team, I expect a dropoff from a pitcher moving from NL to AL anyway).

  51. The Angels only have 1 SB as a team. Maybe the Reds throw in Robinson too.

  52. Should we start a pool on who gets more starts in the next month: the light-hitting journeyman OF who was completely unknown to Dusty and the organization until this spring training, or the guy who was rated the #14 overall prospect by BA just last year, and who plays a premium position.

    Could be close…

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