2012 Reds

Brandon Phillips: When will we see him again?

So Brandon Phillips is hurt, a strained left calf, according to this piece by Mark Sheldon:

“To tell you the truth, I’m not going to be playing for a while. Dr. [Kremchek, Medical Director] looked at it and he said it was worse than what they expected. I didn’t know. I just knew it felt bad. I just feel like I let people down, especially because we’re in first place and the race is real close. You already have one person out, so I don’t want to be the person coming out. It just really [stinks].”

Go check out the entire piece for all of BP’s quotes. One of the money quotes pointed out that Phillips aggravated the injury during Monday’s game.

Everyone saw this quote, however — “I’m not going to be playing for a while. — and promptly freaked out, as Reds fans are wont to do. Shortly thereafter, on Twitter, BP said he’d be out “a day or two.”

So which is it? My guess: he’s out for ten to twelve days, but the Reds won’t put him on the disabled list; instead, they’ll choose to play with a 24-man roster.

Okay, that’s only speculation on my part, but it’s informed speculation. I’ve seen the Reds do this a hundred times before (including earlier this season, with Scott Rolen). At this point, all we can hope is that Phillips will only be out a day or two, as he estimated. Fingers are crossed.

One final note: I don’t know enough about the situation to criticize the Reds medical staff. Something stinks here, but I’m not prepared to hurl accusations yet. I’m sure you won’t feel the same restraint in the comments section. Feel free: it’s America!

89 thoughts on “Brandon Phillips: When will we see him again?

  1. @WVRedlegs: FYI – I realize this was a joke, but if it had been legitimate information, you and especially your friend could have been guilty of breaking a federal law with respect to sharing another’s personal health information.

    • @WVRedlegs: FYI – I realize this was a joke, but if it had been legitimate information, you and especially your friend could have been guilty of breaking a federal law with respect to sharing another’s personal health information.

      At the very least he’s guilty of a federal count of being a total bummer.

  2. I really hope we do not play shorthanded. HRod came up through the system playing 2nd base. It’s time he finally gets his call up.

  3. “He’s got that swag back. He’s feeling it,” Baker said. “He’s swinging the bat great for us. You have to have somebody hot in there, hopefully in the middle of the lineup.”

    I hope that means Baker sees Ludwick at the #4 so that when Brandon returns to the lineup Phillips returns to leadoff.

    • “He’s got that swag back. He’s feeling it,” Baker said. “He’s swinging the bat great for us. You have to have somebody hot in there, hopefully in the middle of the lineup.”

      I hope that means Baker sees Ludwick at the #4 so that when Brandon returns to the lineup Phillips returns to leadoff.

      Nope, by “middle of the order” he means #5:

      1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
      2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
      3. Jay Bruce (L) RF
      4. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
      5. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
      6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B
      7. Wilson Valdez (R) 2B
      8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
      9. Bronson Arroyo (R) P

  4. @AndyS: We’re a legit contender in 1st place and 20 games over. I would think that any time a key player (like Phillips or Votto) doesn’t look right, they should get immediate attention and analysis, just to be on the safe side. That whole “better safe than sorry” think hasn’t been applied here.

  5. Ludwick will likely get his shot at cleanup (Bruce @ #3), until BP/Votto get back. If Votto beats BP back, AND if Ludwick continues his offense MAYBE then Baker will consider BP at leadoff. But even then, I doubt it. At this point, I don’t care as much WHERE they bat as long as Joey, BP, and Ludwick are ALL in the lineup.

  6. It’s comical really. Rolen is no better than the 4th best option for cleanup right now, even though he’s been hitting well lately.

    If it was me, I would switch Cozart and Valdez, and Frazier with Stubbs, just to see if those two can produce more near the bottom of the order. But Cozart is clearly our leadoff hitter for the rest of the year. No doubt we’ll be sending up the guy with a sub-.290 OBP for our first at bat in every playoff game we play this year.

    I’m going to stop second guessing these lineups now because we’re stuck with them.

  7. Just as I’m typing the last message, the lineup is released. Nope. Ludwick batting 5th. Rolen 4th.

  8. Just in. Brandon Phillips’ leg falls off. Struck down with the plague. Near death. The Nation Panics. “Oh no! How long is he going to be out?”, one RedlegNation follower questions.

  9. Mesoraco got suspended for 3 games. The timing for this suspension ain’t so good. No BP, Votto, or Meso for the next 3 games.

  10. BP has not been ruled out of the next three games. The only thing official we have is that he will not start tonight.

  11. @renbutler: Looks like we’ll have to see what “a while” means. And it’s worth noting that when a player is hurt Dusty usually make them wait at least a game or two longer than usual to make sure they’re ok. You’re right, he hasn’t been ruled out. But I don’t think anyone expects him to paly the next few games.

  12. Thanks, it sounds a little more reasonable that way. I still stick by my guess that he’ll sit WED/THU and start (or at worst PH) on FRI.

    It’s as valid as any other guess I’ve seen, and better than a few.

  13. Since Hanigan catches 3 SP’s in a row, why not appeal the suspension until the next round of Arroyo, Cueto & Latos. Hopefully, our bullpen is in better shape by then, and we know more about BP so we don’t have to play 2 short. Then call up Corky/Navarro to cover as its not like Mez PH’s anyway. DFA him after suspension. Not sure about the 40 man impact though. Or showcase Navarro by the 8-31 deadline….as a veteran hitting catcher, I would think he would have a bit of value?

  14. I sure hope he’s ready to go for those pesky Pirates. They just don’t go away like they used to.

  15. This thing with Cozart batting leadoff has escalated to something beyond Dusty not understanding sabermetrics. At this point it really feels like some kind of internal power struggle within the organization. Dusty hasn’t gotten an extension, one I’m assuming he wants. Walt says “You have to start putting someone else in the leadoff spot” and Dusty says “Ok, as soon as I get my new contract.” That might be a bit conspiracy-theory, but It’s August now. This isn’t an experiment anymore. This isn’t “Let’s see if he can get going.” Dusty’s making a statement, and it’s either “Shut up, I know better than everyone else in the world” or it’s “Give me my money or I can keep this up all season.”

    This team is good and I think they have a very good chance of going deep into the playoffs once they’re healthy, but I REALLy hope that doesn’t mean Dusty gets a free pass on this. Even if we win a ring, we really need to look for a new manager next year.

    • This thing with Cozart batting leadoff has escalated to something beyond Dusty not understanding sabermetrics. At this point it really feels like some kind of internal power struggle within the organization. Dusty hasn’t gotten an extension, one I’m assuming he wants. Walt says “You have to start putting someone else in the leadoff spot” and Dusty says “Ok, as soon as I get my new contract.” That might be a bit conspiracy-theory, but It’s August now. This isn’t an experiment anymore. This isn’t “Let’s see if he can get going.” Dusty’s making a statement, and it’s either “Shut up, I know better than everyone else in the world” or it’s “Give me my money or I can keep this up all season.”

      This team is good and I think they have a very good chance of going deep into the playoffs once they’re healthy, but I REALLy hope that doesn’t mean Dusty gets a free pass on this. Even if we win a ring, we really need to look for a new manager next year.

      Tonight is a perfect example of the lineup issues that have hurt my perception of Dusty despite his great ‘in game’ calls and decisions when to get bench players some time this year.

      The leadoff position is absurd at this point. The best team in baseball with the worst leadoff hitter in baseball and there seems to be ‘if it ain’t broke’ mentality pervading.

      Someone smart needs to explain Rolen at 4. The poor guy is heating up but swinging for the fences is only going to mess with his resurgence. Why can’t a guy who has looked like an elite 4 hole hitter the past week or two (Ludwick) play the 4 hole when it’s vacated yet again? And what has Frazier done so wrong that with Votto and Phillips out he stays at #6?! Bruce is up two spots, Ludwick one, and Rolen leap frogs everyone while Frazier stays put.

    • This thing with Cozart batting leadoff has escalated to something beyond Dusty not understanding sabermetrics. At this point it really feels like some kind of internal power struggle within the organization. Dusty hasn’t gotten an extension, one I’m assuming he wants. Walt says “You have to start putting someone else in the leadoff spot” and Dusty says “Ok, as soon as I get my new contract.” That might be a bit conspiracy-theory, but It’s August now. This isn’t an experiment anymore. This isn’t “Let’s see if he can get going.” Dusty’s making a statement, and it’s either “Shut up, I know better than everyone else in the world” or it’s “Give me my money or I can keep this up all season.”

      This team is good and I think they have a very good chance of going deep into the playoffs once they’re healthy, but I REALLy hope that doesn’t mean Dusty gets a free pass on this. Even if we win a ring, we really need to look for a new manager next year.

      I am really beginning to think you are right. I said yesterday when they didn’t trade for a leadoff hitter that I thought it was a very clear message that Dusty’s time is up at the end of the year. Here’s my thought – Walt knows that they have a number of better lineup options on the team so why trade away the future when you can fix the problem with a new manager in the off season. We’re looking at a 5 to 10 year period of winning with these guys if we’re able to step back and look at the really big picture, and I think that’s what happened yesterday.

      Back on topic – I’m not a doctor and I won’t play one on the interwebs, but this sure seems similar to what happened with JoeyMVP and that’s a real concern. The medical/training staff has to do a better job (just based on the Votto situation).

  16. Some of these conspiracy theories rank right up there with the JFK assassination and Roswell.

    I noticed tinfoil sales are up…

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