2012 Reds / Dusty's Lineup Shenanigans / Richard from Springboro

New lineup

Posted at Better Off Red. Richard from Springboro, don’t get your hopes up. It’s just a day of rest for Joey MVP, not a demotion to AAA Louisville. Super Todd Frazier takes his place in the first base slot. The folks who don’t like Zack Cozart batting first and Drew Stubbs batting second will surely be relieved by the change to have Stubbs lead-off and Cozart follow.

Stubbs CF
Cozart SS
Frazier 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Heisey LF
Hanigan C
Arroyo P

78 thoughts on “New lineup

  1. @doctor

    If you take out Stubbs first 8 games after he was moved to the 2 hole, the numbers show he’s tanked it since then. His numbers in the 2 hole only show anywhere near decently because of those first 8 games. Stubbs slump hasn’t been since he’s been hurt. It’s been well before that.

  2. @CharlotteNCRedsFan

    I agree. We all should still root for Stubbs. We are all Reds fans, and he is a Reds player. And, I am not a Stubbs fan by any means. Maybe this way. Would I put money on him to do well offensively? Not by a long shot.

  3. @dn4192
    “7/16/2012 at 5:24 pm dn4192(Quote)
    Reds…12 games over .500
    Reds….NL Central Leader
    Reds…2nd best NL record
    Reds…4th best ML record

    Hate to say it, but those are the real numbers that matter and that means Dusty ain’t doing that bad…”

    Spin it like that, yes. But, when you consider, in this division, the weakest division in the league, the Cubs and Astros aren’t going to do anything, the Cards lost the player of last decade, the Brewers lost the reigning MVP, the Pirates had no significant offensive pickup, and we lost no one, and we are only 1 game up? That’s not looking that good.

    Bottom line, we have better hitters on this team than Stubbs and Cozart have been. Not ideal 1-2 hole hitters, but better hitters nonethless. Stick better hitters in front of Votto, that means more runs. More runs means more wins. There is no reason why we shouldn’t be 4-5 games ahead of the Pirates in this division, if it wasn’t for a little common sense like that from Baker. Tonight’s lineup is just an example of it. No one can argue giving Votto nor anyone a rest. But, to take out our other big bat for the last month tonight (Ludwick) in exchange for Stubbs? Frazier isn’t good enough to hit cleanup, which would allow BP to move back to leadoff, which could cure any lack of batting we need, which means no need to make any trade, but Frazier is good enough to bat third?

    Remember, our last 6 games are on the road. We don’t want to have to rely on clinching the division then. We want to do it earlier than that. The earlier the better. That means to be winning now.

    • @dn4192“7/16/2012 at 5:24 pm dn4192(Quote)Reds…12 games over .500Reds….NL Central LeaderReds…2nd best NL recordReds…4th best ML recordHate to say it, but those are the real numbers that matter and that means Dusty ain’t doing that bad…”Spin it like that, yes. But, when you consider, in this division, the weakest division in the league, the Cubs and Astros aren’t going to do anything, the Cards lost the player of last decade, the Brewers lost the reigning MVP, the Pirates had no significant offensive pickup, and we lost no one, and we are only 1 game up? That’s not looking that good.Bottom line, we have better hitters on this team than Stubbs and Cozart have been. Not ideal 1-2 hole hitters, but better hitters nonethless. Stick better hitters in front of Votto, that means more runs. More runs means more wins. There is no reason why we shouldn’t be 4-5 games ahead of the Pirates in this division, if it wasn’t for a little common sense like that from Baker. Tonight’s lineup is just an example of it. No one can argue giving Votto nor anyone a rest. But, to take out our other big bat for the last month tonight (Ludwick) in exchange for Stubbs? Frazier isn’t good enough to hit cleanup, which would allow BP to move back to leadoff, which could cure any lack of batting we need, which means no need to make any trade, but Frazier is good enough to bat third?Remember, our last 6 games are on the road. We don’t want to have to rely on clinching the division then. We want to do it earlier than that. The earlier the better. That means to be winning now.

      Well with Votto now gone for the season…does it really matter…😥

      • Well with Votto now gone for the season…does it really matter…

        Hoenstly, yes, it does.

  4. Well now it’s 3-4 weeks..going out on a limb here…Votto won’t play anymore this season. Given the wonderful medical staff we have, they will some how screw it up. If there is not a change in medical staff and coaching over this, then our owner really needs to step aside himself.

  5. @earmbrister: But they have (had) the MVP and two other all stars with two all star snubs.

    5 all stars on a team would have been as many as the Cards and more than the Giants, Braves or Nationals. (Side note: how did the third place team in the softest division get 5 all stars? Oh yeah . . . )

    The Reds have the best or second best pitching staff in the national league too.

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