Let’s recap today’s titanic struggle….

FINAL
Cincinnati 3
St. Louis 2
W: LeCure (3-2)
L: Marte (2-2)
BOX SCORE

POSITIVES
— Ryan Ludwick came to the plate in the bottom of the 10th inning with 1 out, hitless in his previous four at-bats, and deposited the 9th pitch of the at-bat into the left field stands. Coming into play today, Ludwick had a .279/.338/.581 slash line in his previous 143 plate appearances, dating back to May 17th.

— Brandon Phillips picked up two more hits tonight and is having a great series against the Cardinals.

— Jay Bruce had two doubles and an RBI. The RBI was the impossible two-out RBI.

— Scott Rolen was 2-for-4 with a run scored, and I’m hopeful that it is the first step in a strong second half for Rolen.

— Mike Leake was very strong through his first 6 innings. Before the wheels fell off in the 7th inning, Leake’s line was 6ip, 0 runs, 4 hits, 1 walk, and 3 strikeouts.

— Sam LeCure pitched a perfect 10th inning, striking out the final two batters, Yadier Molina and David Freese, to end the inning.

— The Cardinals 2-5 hitters (Jay, Holliday, Beltran, and Craig) were held to batting 1-for-19 with 5 strikeouts. That’s an excellent overall performance by the pitching staff.

NEGATIVES
— None…Reds win!

NOT-SO-RANDOM THOUGHTS
— The Reds are, at least temporarily, in sole possession of first place. At the time of this writing, the Pirates are down two runs to the Brewers in the beginning of the 5th inning.

— The Reds have held the Cardinals to 5 runs in the first two games of this series and go for the sweep on ESPN Sunday night baseball tomorrow.

— Unfortunately, it looks like Johnny Cueto may not be available for tomorrow’s start:

— It was announced after the game started that Paul Janish was traded to the Atlanta Braves for 27 year old minor league starting pitcher, Todd Redmond. Redmond is in his 4th consecutive season at the AAA level. With the emergence of Zack Cozart and Didi Gregorius, Janish was squeezed out of any future role on this club, and this seems like a good grab at pitching depth for Cincinnati.

— What a great start to the second half! Let’s push the Cardinals further out of the race with a sweep tomorrow!!

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  1. This win felt as good as some of those tough losses during the west coast trip. This team can win it all with the heart and soul they exhibit. Let’s hope that Votto can get his stroke back soon. He still looks pretty gimpy on that knee.

  2. Brew Crew up 4-3 hitting in the bottom of the 6th…

  3. Bullpen all around got the job done. Giving up one of Mike Leake’s inherited runners was about the best you could expect and the Cardinals had to bunt to accomplish that.

    I think Jay Bruce deserves to be mentioned in the negative column as well as the positive. He made two gigantic mental errors and possibly a third. He lost his concentration on a single hit right in front of him and let it skip by for an extra base. The run did not end up scoring, fortunately. Then he hit a double into the right field corner and just coasted into second base. Meanwhile, the Cardinals RF was kicking it around in the corner and Bruce could have easily made it to third. He just wasn’t paying attention, happy with the double. Just can’t believe they all aren’t trying as hard as possible in this series. I thought Dusty got all the players to play hard?

    • Bullpen all around got the job done. Giving up one of Mike Leake’s inherited runners was about the best you could expect and the Cardinals had to bunt to accomplish that.

      I think Jay Bruce deserves to be mentioned in the negative column as well as the positive. He made two gigantic mental errors and possibly a third. He lost his concentration on a single hit right in front of him and let it skip by for an extra base. The run did not end up scoring, fortunately. Then he hit a double into the right field corner and just coasted into second base. Meanwhile, the Cardinals RF was kicking it around in the corner and Bruce could have easily made it to third. He just wasn’t paying attention, happy with the double. Just can’t believe they all aren’t trying as hard as possible in this series. I thought Dusty got all the players to play hard?

      Steve, I’m glad you mentioned this. There is no bigger Jay Bruce fan than myself, but Jay needs to get it together. He’s been careless defensively lately and the triple that he turned into a double yesterday could have cost the team the game. If he played for me, he’d have gotten talked to when he came off the field after he “coasted” on the double.

  4. I like the transaction to move Janish for a starting pitcher. That’s another pitching prospect now at AAA and Janish had missed his opportunity.

    • I like the transaction to move Janish for a starting pitcher. That’s another pitching prospect now at AAA and Janish had missed his opportunity.

      I have to agree. I didn’t think, still don’t, that Valdez was needed because of Janish. But, the team decided to go with Valdez, alright. I was hoping that Janish would have made a go of it last year. It seems like he just didn’t come back from injuries very well. Last year, he was doing fine before his injury, exactly like this year. Coming back from it, not much at all.

      But, with the number of middle infielders coming up, anyhow, we have some leverage there. So, if Janish is being called for by another club, so be it.

      Good luck, Paul, you have a good club down there.

      I hope this Redmond can perform. I read a couple of scouting reports on him. It didn’t seem like much.

  5. I had a real strong positive feeling when Ludwick went to the plate. No rational reason. I liked the way he confidently stood in the on deck circle waiting for the Cardinals to change pitchers. He expected it and it happened. I’m sure that’s no real big deal and happens all the time, but it caused a feeling of confidence to creep through me. Then the count went to 0-2 and the confidence faded away. But when he worked the count back to 3-2, I said out loud to no one in particular, “Now he has to throw a strike” (which he didn’t, but I said it anyhow).

    I didn’t think it was going to be a HR. I expected to see some top spin bring it down. It couldn’t have been higher than 15 feet of the ground at its highest point. He certainly didn’t think at first it was a sure thing. To this minute, I haven’t seen a replay. But I bet it didn’t clear the fence by much.

    They all count, though! Another win vs the WLB. Taking my broom tomorrow night!

    • I had a real strong positive feeling when Ludwick went to the plate. No rational reason. I liked the way he confidently stood in the on deck circle waiting for the Cardinals to change pitchers. He expected it and it happened. I’m sure that’s no real big deal and happens all the time, but it caused a feeling of confidence to creep through me. Then the count went to 0-2 and the confidence faded away. But when he worked the count back to 3-2, I said out loud to no one in particular, “Now he has to throw a strike” (which he didn’t, but I said it anyhow).

      I didn’t think it was going to be a HR. I expected to see some top spin bring it down. It couldn’t have been higher than 15 feet of the ground at its highest point. He certainly didn’t think at first it was a sure thing. To this minute, I haven’t seen a replay. But I bet it didn’t clear the fence by much.

      The other thing that I noticed as the Reds came to bat in the 10th was that the breeze picked up blowing out to left. It wasn’t a strong win, but it did pick up and it might have made difference on Ludwick’s drive.

  6. You see two black cats and a lot of prayers lift the Reds to a win with its line up which was not supposed to win by ESPN simulated games Redbirds 57% and Reds 43%. The two balckcats were placed in the box and ran 7 times in front of the Redbirds Dugout!Go Reds. Great job by the Bullpen- don’t need to mention 3 Walks by Mr. Ondrus-k. He was Ok most of the time though it didn’t blow his end up today as the REdBirds were blind by Saturday 14. 😆 🙄

  7. Reds made it official that Homer will start tomorrow night. He did well the last time in the national spotlight, pitching against the Tigers. The bullpen imploded that night. This will be a big spot for the team. Lots on the line. It is really hard to sweep a team especially a desperate one. The Cardinals have a lot of great hitters.

  8. The friggin Bats just won with a walkoff grand slam!!! What is going on in Reds Land?!

  9. I think VT is not well, he should not have gone to that stupid ASG . He should have rested all the whole weeek and let the trainer and medicine man took care of his knee. Votto is not a kid anymore he should have known better than that to risk hurting his knee for any long period of time especially in this tight race in the second half. Go Votto and Go Reds.

  10. Excellent start to the road to October. This is going to be a fun ride.

  11. Dusty seemed to pull the strings right today, pulling Leake when he needed to come out and sending in Bray to help Ondrusek out of his jam. The bullpen responded with another great outing – 4 innings, 0 runs. One inherited run scored coming from a situation with no outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd.

    I was thinking the Cardinals fans must be holding their breath sending in a succession of relievers with 4+ and 5+ ERAs.

    So here’s my attempt to come up with a name for the bullpen: The Magnificient Seven. A bunch of gunslingers like in the movie.

    • Dusty seemed to pull the strings right today, pulling Leake when he needed to come out and sending in Bray to help Ondrusek out of his jam. The bullpen responded with another great outing – 4 innings, 0 runs. One inherited run scored coming from a situation with no outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd.

      I was thinking the Cardinals fans must be holding their breath sending in a succession of relievers with 4+ and 5+ ERAs.

      So here’s my attempt to come up with a name for the bullpen: The Magnificient Seven. A bunch of gunslingers like in the movie.

      And even the inherited run might not have scored had Joey come up with the bunt cleanly. He charged it well, tried to bare hand it, but missed it. It appeared to me that if he’d have come up clean, he’d have clearly had the runner at home.

      • And even the inherited run might not have scored had Joey come up with the bunt cleanly. He charged it well, tried to bare hand it, but missed it. It appeared to me that if he’d have come up clean, he’d have clearly had the runner at home.

        It’s possible; but then again how many 1stbasemen are used to having to make barehanded plays and throws like that. I don’t fault him for not making that play for that reason.

  12. @MikeC: I agree about Baker today. He pulled Leake just at the right time, and more quickly than the crowd was ready to support. He brought in Marshall, not so much for the match up, but because it was a high leverage situation and the Reds needed a strike out (at least I hope it was that and not because of three AB Lance Berkman had against Marshall in 2007). I was impressed that Baker had Marshall ready that quickly, because Leake’s problems arose rapidly. Baker’s move to Bill Bray paid off as well. He used Chapman in the ninth, immediately after a save became impossible.

    • @MikeC: I agree about Baker today. He pulled Leake just at the right time, and more quickly than the crowd was ready to support. He brought in Marshall, not so much for the match up, but because it was a high leverage situation and the Reds needed a strike out (at least I hope it was that and not because of three AB Lance Berkman had against Marshall in 2007). I was impressed that Baker had Marshall ready that quickly, because Leake’s problems arose rapidly. Baker’s move to Bill Bray paid off as well. He used Chapman in the ninth, immediately after a save became impossible.

      Steve M.: Right. Plus Dusty’s bringing in Marshall to face Berkman was a good match up, because Berkman is not as dangerous batting RHed, you want to turn him around when possible.

  13. This trade actually fulfilled what we lost in Jeff Francis. A SP we can plug in for a few starts.

    A lot of Braves fans on MLBTradeRumors were upset that Redmond never got a shot at the Majors and now they have Janish…

    • This trade actually fulfilled what we lost in Jeff Francis. A SP we can plug in for a few starts.

      A lot of Braves fans on MLBTradeRumors were upset that Redmond never got a shot at the Majors and now they have Janish…

      Yeah, why did this guy never get a single shot? I guess the Braves just have too many starters. He does not look great or anything (pretty obvious, or he wouldn’t have cost as little as Janish), but his AAA numbers look good enough to have received a call up at some point.

  14. Redmond trade makes no sense. He’s a career minor league guy. Great for Jannish (wish him well) and the Braves, not so great for the Reds.

    • Redmond trade makes no sense. He’s a career minor league guy. Great for Jannish (wish him well) and the Braves, not so great for the Reds.

      Couldn’t disagree more, we have no SP depth at AAA and Janish’s spot in the organization was gone. Fills a need for us, and allows the Reds to trade a player who’s future in the organization was gone.

  15. Bucos beat the Brew Crew, 6-4. The Reds are tied for 1st again, but the Birds are 3.5 back now.

  16. @Steve Mancuso: @MikeC: The bullpen and the way Dusty used it was a big positive tonite.

    I was happy to see Dusty bring in Marshall with the Reds in a big jam in the 7th, then bring in Bray to get 1 out in the 8th. Usually you’d expect him to use Bray first and then Marshall.

    • @Steve Mancuso: @MikeC: The bullpen and the way Dusty used it was a big positive tonite.

      I was happy to see Dusty bring in Marshall with the Reds in a big jam in the 7th, then bring in Bray to get 1 out in the 8th. Usually you’d expect him to use Bray first and then Marshall.

      I don’t agree. I liked the Marshall move (though I could have lived with Chapman too), but with 2 outs in the 8th and knowing Chapman isn’t going two innings, I’d have brought him in with 1st and 2nd probably, and definitely with the bases loaded.

  17. First, the Fox broadcast was Brennamen and Verducci (from SI). That’s the first time I can remember that there was not an ex-player or ex-manager or ex-something in baseball as the color guy. Also, when they had Brennamen talking to Verducci, they split the screen and the backgrounds were different. Was Verducci sitting in a studio somewhere announcing the game remotely? Weird.

    Second, Verducci said “you have to bunt Stubbs” and his reason was, even if you don’t bunt, Votto will not be allowed to win the game—he said they’d pitch around Votto. Well, if that’s true, then why would you bunt Stubbs? After all, if he swings away and makes out, they’re going to walk Votto, and if he bunts successfully, they’re going to walk Votto. In any case, they didn’t pitch around Votto and he very nearly went yard.

  18. Wow…on MLB Network they just said:

    “The Pirates are hot, the Cardinals have the best team, but the Reds have the best manager, Dusty Baker”

    WTF

  19. Not trying to be negative, but Ondrusek’s 3 walks in one inning have to be considered a negative. Once again: “Baker, he’s NOT a good pitcher. Please use Simon in his role, starting June.” (I’m aware it’s July.)

    • Not trying to be negative, but Ondrusek’s 3 walks in one inning have to be considered a negative.Once again: “Baker, he’s NOT a good pitcher.Please use Simon in his role, starting June.”(I’m aware it’s July.)

      Yes, whoever that Ondrusek was when he was carrying the 0.00 ERA and was hitting 97 with his fastball…I want that guy back.

      • Yes, whoever that Ondrusek was when he was carrying the 0.00 ERA and was hitting 97 with his fastball…I want that guy back.

        Ondrusek started strong in 2011, developed an elbow problem, and was ineffective in the 2nd half. I have no idea if he has an arm problem, but it seems like a repeat.

        • Ondrusek started strong in 2011, developed an elbow problem, and was ineffective in the 2nd half.I have no idea if he has an arm problem, but it seems like a repeat.

          Or maybe, and this site will love this, he was getting lucky.

          From opening day until the appearance before he gave up his first run of the year, he went 15 IP, 8 H, 7BB, 11K. That’s better than his ratios now, but still not that good. His BABIP was .195. People here thought this was sustainable, and called for him to close.

          From the day he gave up his first run until now, his BABIP is .304.

          His BABIP for the year is .253. Admittedly, part of the BABIP rise is probably due to a 20% line drive rate in the bad part to a 10% line drive rate in the good part, and I can’t explain that except to say it’s a small sample either way. But even with that, he was definitely pretty lucky in the first part of the season. His season secondary numbers are horrible: his XFIP is almost 5. His BABIP is likely to go up, and the guy just cannot throw strikes consistently and does not throw hard. Even if his BABIP doesn’t go up, he just walks too many guys.

          On the other hand, Simon has a wild streak too (not as much in number of walks, but in how far his pitches sometimes miss), but is downright unhittable at times. He should take Ondrusek’s role. That Baker continues to put a pitcher with a K/BB rate of about 1 into high leverage situations instead of one with a K/BB rate of 3 (along with the fact that he throws hard and is nasty) is ridiculous.

          • Or maybe, and this site will love this, he was getting lucky.From opening day until the appearance before he gave up his first run of the year, he went 15 IP, 8 H, 7BB, 11K. That’s better than his ratios now, but still not that good. His BABIP was .195. People here thought this was sustainable, and called for him to close.From the day he gave up his first run until now, his BABIP is .304.His BABIP for the year is .253. Admittedly, part of the BABIP rise is probably due to a 20% line drive rate in the bad part to a 10% line drive rate in the good part, and I can’t explain that except to say it’s a small sample either way. But even with that, he was definitely pretty lucky in the first part of the season. His season secondary numbers are horrible: his XFIP is almost 5. His BABIP is likely to go up, and the guy just cannot throw strikes consistently and does not throw hard. Even if his BABIP doesn’t go up, he just walks too many guys. On the other hand, Simon has a wild streak too (not as much in number of walks, but in how far his pitches sometimes miss), but is downright unhittable at times. He should take Ondrusek’s role. That Baker continues to put a pitcher with a K/BB rate of about 1 into high leverage situations instead of one with a K/BB rate of 3 (along with the fact that he throws hard and is nasty) is ridiculous.

            It’s not lucky going from 96 to 91. I do believe something is wrong. He’s been used a lot.

          • It’s not lucky going from 96 to 91.I do believe something is wrong.He’s been used a lot.

            Good god, Ondrusek does not throw 96. He never, ever has. When “97” pops up once or twice at some stadium, and for many games before and many games after he’s around 92, have you considered that maybe the gun is off? His average fastball velocity is unchanged the last 3 years.

          • Good god, Ondrusek does not throw 96. He never, ever has. When “97″ pops up once or twice at some stadium, and for many games before and many games after he’s around 92, have you considered that maybe the gun is off? His average fastball velocity is unchanged the last 3 years.

            Earlier in the year, it is fact, he did, consistently.

          • Earlier in the year, it is fact, he did, consistently.

            Every pitcher has a range of fastball velocity. Plus, radar guns have error. According to Pitch F/X, Ondrusek exceeded 95 MPH with any of his fastballs in 3 out of his first 15 games. His average velocity in those games was over 95 MPH once. His average velocity was 93 or below as often as it was above 93.

          • @Racine I thought that was Creeper Welch working wioth Keltch again to day but I didn’t listen to any radio after the fifth inning…

            It was. Brantley wasn’t even in the radio booth last night for crying out loud.

            Or maybe, and this site will love this, he was getting lucky.

            From opening day until the appearance before he gave up his first run of the year, he went 15 IP, 8 H, 7BB, 11K.That’s better than his ratios now, but still not that good.His BABIP was .195.People here thought this was sustainable, and called for him to close.

            From the day he gave up his first run until now, his BABIP is .304.

            His BABIP for the year is .253.Admittedly, part of the BABIP rise is probably due to a 20% line drive rate in the bad part to a 10% line drive rate in the good part, and I can’t explain that except to say it’s a small sample either way.But even with that, he was definitely pretty lucky in the first part of the season.His season secondary numbers are horrible: his XFIP is almost 5.His BABIP is likely to go up, and the guy just cannot throw strikes consistently and does not throw hard.Even if his BABIP doesn’t go up, he just walks too many guys.

            On the other hand, Simon has a wild streak too (not as much in number of walks, but in how far his pitches sometimes miss), but is downright unhittable at times.He should take Ondrusek’s role.That Baker continues to put a pitcher with a K/BB rate of about 1 into high leverage situations instead of one with a K/BB rate of 3 (along with the fact that he throws hard and is nasty) is ridiculous.

            harken back to the start of the year and the majority of this board was calling for Simon to be outright released and was ridiculing Jocketty for signing him (along with Ludwick). I think Walt takes way too much heat on here. Dusty deserves the heat.

          • I think Walt takes way too much heat on here. Dusty deserves the heat.

            I have to agree. At least Walt did something in his job to make the team noticeably better (pitching), even though he didn’t address the offense. The thing is, if Baker and Jacoby are such good coaches, they would be able to deal with it, coach some players up, and still have a talented offense. Remember, Baker on Gomes, “He has a bat that can carry a team.” Gomes? Really? Baker even tried to coach Gomes himself. That didn’t work. We’ve been waiting on Bruce for several years now. Stubbs is getting worse each year. I have asked before, besides pitching, which position, if not player, is significantly better than in 2010. Careful, you would need to prove it. Answer, none really. Because Baker and Jacoby can’t to their job, in terms of coaching up players. I questioned Price last year, but was willing to give him one more year. That’s panned out. I’m really beginning to question Baker’s ability to judge talent, anymore.

            Baker seems to be more concerned with what can happen than what is happening. He talked of how Stubbs is his only base stealing threat, so he likes him up in the order, “in case” he gets on base. What he doesn’t think of is if Stubbs does get on, his single offensive strength is taken away with Votto batting behind him. If Stubbs still does steal, then Votto gets walked, taking the bat out of our best hitters hands.

            Back in May, when Bruce was lighting it up and BP not so much, Baker was (and still is) worried about the lefty-lefty matchup in the later innings with a LOOGY. What Baker failed to see was keeping what he had was actually hurting the team then.

            How many times have we heard him say things like “Have to get Harris’ bat going”, so he sits Frazier, who would be hot at the time. Again, more worried about what can happen, Harris, a bench player, having a cold bat, then what was happening, Frazier, our future 3rd baseman as of now and then, having the hot bat.

            Just dropping Cozart and Stubbs down in the order. I can only assume Baker would worry about what can happen, hurting Cozart and Stubbs’ feelings if they get dropped down, than what is happening, that they aren’t performing and are hurting the team offensively in the 1-2 hole. Yes, we are still winning. But, it is a simple formula. Better hitters in front of Votto, hitters that we have right now, that means more runs for us. More runs for us mean more wins for us. There is no reason why we shouldn’t be leading the weakest division in the league.

            Ludwick has been tagging the ball for the last month. He could easily step into the 4 hole right now, to allow BP to move back into the 1-2 hole, and at least drop Stubbs back down. When/If Ludwick cools back down, you move BP back.

  20. @rfay00: MLB Netwotk has been saying since March that the Cardinals are the best team in the NL Central. In April Bowden and whoever his partner is handed the division over to the Cardinals, and repeatedly talked about their superiority over the Reds. They in particular said how the Cardinals demonstrate their superiority every time they play the Reds.

    Now that the Reds are winning, they need to come up with a bogus explanation.

    • @rfay00: MLB Netwotk has been saying since March that the Cardinals are the best team in the NL Central. In April Bowden and whoever his partner is handed the division over to the Cardinals, and repeatedly talked about their superiority over the Reds. They in particular said how the Cardinals demonstrate their superiority every time they play the Reds.

      Now that the Reds are winning, they need to come up with a bogus explanation.

      You would think with Sean Casey on there we would get a little more love, but I guess not.

      • You would think with Sean Casey on there we would get a little more love, but I guess not.

        Right now I would agree. The Cardinals are put together a bit better than the Reds. Do a position by position analysis and the only places the Reds have a clear advantage are 1st/2nd base and bullpen.

  21. @Racine Red: My bullpen complaint for the evening was about Ondrusek. He’s not that good at a pitcher (as you’ve often observed.) He’s done well at getting 1 RHed hitter out for a 3rd out wiht runners on base. But the problem is, Dusty usually brings him in to start the next inning, and that’s where things go badly. I wouldn’t have given Ondrusek such a long leash (3 walks).

  22. I just heard Brantley’s radio call of Ludwick’s walkoff. I’m glad I got home and saw it on TV, because Brantley’s call was:

    “Breaking ball, swung on, line drive [all in a monotone], …(ball goes over fence)…GONE.”

    One would have no idea what was going on. I can’t stand Marty Brennamen’s negativity and refuse to listen to him any more, but he is an excellent play by play announcer. Brantley is…horrible in that role.

    • I just heard Brantley’s radio call of Ludwick’s walkoff.I’m glad I got home and saw it on TV, because Brantley’s call was:

      “Breaking ball, swung on, line drive [all in a monotone], …(ball goes over fence)…GONE.”

      One would have no idea what was going on.I can’t stand Marty Brennamen’s negativity and refuse to listen to him any more, but he is an excellent play by play announcer.Brantley is…horrible in that role.

      That wasn’t Brantley, it was Chris Welsh. And as bad as he is at play-by-play, I would take him over either Brenemann in a heartbeat.

      • That wasn’t Brantley, it was Chris Welsh. And as bad as he is at play-by-play, I would take him over either Brenemann in a heartbeat.

        Hmm. It sounded like Brantley to me. Thanks for the clarification/correction.

    • I just heard Brantley’s radio call of Ludwick’s walkoff.I’m glad I got home and saw it on TV, because Brantley’s call was:

      “Breaking ball, swung on, line drive [all in a monotone], …(ball goes over fence)…GONE.”

      One would have no idea what was going on.I can’t stand Marty Brennamen’s negativity and refuse to listen to him any more, but he is an excellent play by play announcer.Brantley is…horrible in that role.

      It was Welsh, not Brantley. I was listening to it live.

  23. Your Edinson Volquez update: today, at LA,he has gone 5 IP, 8 H, 4 BB, 6K, 4 ER. He’s thrown, naturally, 111 pitches so far.

  24. @Racine Red: Where was that guy when we played him?

    • @Racine Red: Where was that guy when we played him?

      On the mound. The Reds ran themselves out of innings and missed key opportunities.

  25. Jocketty said this Redmond character is for depth and can help out the Reds “in an emergency”. I do kind of wonder if that emergency might be trading a starter. (I doubt it, but it seems possible.)

    • Jocketty said this Redmond character is for depth and can help out the Reds “in an emergency”.I do kind of wonder if that emergency might be trading a starter.(I doubt it, but it seems possible.)

      Why would they trade a starter when they have only 5. That would be ridiculous. The only way they trade a starter is if they package one with someone else to get a better starter. But, I’d be surprised to see that happen.

      • Why would they trade a starter when they have only 5.That would be ridiculous.The only way they trade a starter is if they package one with someone else to get a better starter.But, I’d be surprised to see that happen.

        Well, I completely disagree with your position that you would never trade a starter, under any circumstances where you do not get a starter [and a better one] back. You are making a blanket statement that is obviously incorrect. If you think I’m wrong, consider whether you’d trade Homer Bailey for Mike Trout. OK, so there is some level of offensive player that it’s worth doing. The question is exactly what level is that. Victorino, no. Josh Willingham, if he were a CF, the answer for me would be yes.

        Somehow, you have forgotten that you do not have to have 5 good starters, even if we consider Bailey a good starter without benefit of waiting until the end of the season. And that one can acquire one, too, or use Sam Lecure or Redmond. Moreover, with off days, I would estimate that the 5th starter could be skipped such that he starts only 8-9 games from here until the end of the season…and then he does not pitch in the postseason.
        In 8-9 starts, what is the number of additional losses due to pitching Sam Lecure over Bailey? Then, consider what the team could do adding another key bat, and it’s a great tradeoff. Yes: it does make you more vulnerable to injuries. I am aware of that.

        • one] back. You are making a blanket statement that is obviously incorrect. If you think I’m wrong, consider whether you’d trade Homer Bailey for Mike Trout. OK, so there is some level of offensive player that it’s worth doing. The question is exactly what level is that. Victorino, no. Josh Willingham, if he were a CF, the answer for me would be yes.
          Somehow, you have forgotten that you do not have to have 5 good starters, even if we consider Bailey a good starter without benefit of waiting until the end of the season. And that one can acquire one, too, or use Sam Lecure or Redmond. Moreover, with off days, I would estimate that the 5th starter could be skipped such that he starts only 8-9 games from here until the end of the season…and then he does not pitch in the postseason.

          He’s right. You never trade a starter when you only have 5. If we were to trade Homer for Trout (the other team wouldn’t call for that, no poor comparison), then the Reds would obviously believe they have someone who can plug in and, thus, obviously more than 5 starters. Given that Bailey can be skipped, or any other pitcher for that matter, that’s why it would be good to have a 5th pitcher like Bailey to go to. You do realize Lecure hasn’t started for quite a while, thus no guarantee he will be effective. And, given how close this division race is, every game is important enough not to put in a reliever like Lecure into a starting position.

          • He’s right.You never trade a starter when you only have 5.If we were to trade Homer for Trout (the other team wouldn’t call for that, no poor comparison), then the Reds would obviously believe they have someone who can plug in and, thus, obviously more than 5 starters.Given that Bailey can be skipped, or any other pitcher for that matter, that’s why it would be good to have a 5th pitcher like Bailey to go to.You do realize Lecure hasn’t started for quite a while, thus no guarantee he will be effective.And, given how close this division race is, every game is important enough not to put in a reliever like Lecure into a starting position.

            Not only is that not right, it’s ridiculous. Making blanket statements is almost always a bad idea.

            When you can significantly improve your team via trade, you do it. You are stating that if you don’t have a starter to directly plug in for your #5 guy, you don’t trade the #5 guy for a great player. Really?

            Maybe you can recall the Burba for Casey trade. Who did the Reds have to stick in for Burba?

          • Not only is that not right, it’s ridiculous. Making blanket statements is almost always a bad idea. When you can significantly improve your team via trade, you do it. You are stating that if you don’t have a starter to directly plug in for your #5 guy, you don’t trade the #5 guy for a great player. Really?Maybe you can recall the Burba for Casey trade. Who did the Reds have to stick in for Burba?

            Oh, sure, but then, who’s going to trade Valdez for Bautista straight up. You don’t trade you 5 hole pitcher when you don’t have a 6 hole pitcher to go to. Why do you think we even traded for Redmond? He can be a 6 hole pitcher.

          • Oh, sure, but then, who’s going to trade Valdez for Bautista straight up.You don’t trade you 5 hole pitcher when you don’t have a 6 hole pitcher to go to.Why do you think we even traded for Redmond?He can be a 6 hole pitcher.

            Unfortunately you’re right. If Corcinco was a year closer we could use Bailey or Leake as a great trading chip but we can’t right now. Hopefully in the offseason we can do it if we commit to Chapman in the rotation and don’t look back.

        • Well, I completely disagree with your position that you would never trade a starter, under any circumstances where you do not get a starter [and a better one] back.You are making a blanket statement that is obviously incorrect.If you think I’m wrong, consider whether you’d trade Homer Bailey for Mike Trout.OK, so there is some level of offensive player that it’s worth doing.The question is exactly what level is that.Victorino, no.Josh Willingham, if he were a CF, the answer for me would be yes.

          Somehow, you have forgotten that you do not have to have 5 good starters, even if we consider Bailey a good starter without benefit of waiting until the end of the season.And that one can acquire one, too, or use Sam Lecure or Redmond.Moreover, with off days, I would estimate that the 5th starter could be skipped such that he starts only 8-9 games from here until the end of the season…and then he does not pitch in the postseason.
          In 8-9 starts, what is the number of additional losses due to pitching Sam Lecure over Bailey?Then, consider what the team could do adding another key bat, and it’s a great tradeoff.Yes: it does make you more vulnerable to injuries.I am aware of that.

          Instead of simply telling me I’m wrong for the sake of saying someone is wrong, you should be honest enough to admit that the scenario you posit just isn’t remotely realistic. Sure, if we could trade Bailey for an MVP position player, you would make that trade. That’s not happening. And no, Willingham doesn’t make it a good deal either.

          You’ve forgotten what has gotten the Reds where they are today: their pitching. Take the last two games against the Cardinals. We don’t win either without the gutty performance of Latos and Leake, not to mention the bullpen. Or perhaps you simply don’t value pitching the way you should. Here’s what I feel pretty confident saying if you put Sam LeCure in the starting rotation:

          You insist on judging Bailey on his past. You should be acknowledging the job he is doing THIS year, because not to do that is to minimize what the team will lose when LeCure takes his spot. You’re not merely going to weaken the team every 5 days, you going to weaken the bullpen as they have to routinely pick up the slack. You seem to enjoy ragging on Ondrusek. The fact is, Ondrusek can be great and he can be ineffective. Last year, both he and Massett were mostly very good until the second half when the starters couldn’t get thru 6 innings and both had to pitch more often with little rest.

          They broke down under the workload.

          That’s what is likely to happen again if you trade one of the only 5 starters we have. You’re also betting that this rotation will be able to sustain the stress of picking up the slack by going with 4 starters. That’s asking for trouble. These guys need the extra rest they get on off days to make it to the post-season and beyond.

          You really want Cueto tired going into a Championship series?

          I’d much rather deal from a position of strength and include a key member of the bullpen in a deal for a bat and ask someone like Simon or Hoover to step up and fill the void, than I would mess with a shorthanded group of starting pitchers.

          Bad idea.

          • Instead of simply telling me I’m wrong for the sake of saying someone is wrong, you should be honest enough to admit that the scenario you posit just isn’t remotely realistic.Sure, if we could trade Bailey for an MVP position player, you would make that trade.That’s not happening. And no, Willingham doesn’t make it a good deal either.

            You’ve forgotten what has gotten the Reds where they are today:their pitching.Take the last two games against the Cardinals.We don’t win either without the gutty performance of Latos and Leake, not to mention the bullpen.Or perhaps you simply don’t value pitching the way you should.Here’s what I feel pretty confident saying if you put Sam LeCure in the starting rotation:

            You insist on judging Bailey on his past.You should be acknowledging the job he is doing THIS year, because not to do that is to minimize what the team will lose when LeCure takes his spot.You’re not merely going to weaken the team every 5 days, you going to weaken the bullpen as they have to routinely pick up the slack.You seem to enjoy ragging on Ondrusek.The fact is, Ondrusek can be great and he can be ineffective.Last year, both he and Massett were mostly very good until the second half when the starters couldn’t get thru 6 innings and both had to pitch more often with little rest.

            They broke down under the workload.

            That’s what is likely to happen again if you trade one of the only 5 starters we have.You’re also betting that this rotation will be able to sustain the stress of picking up the slack by going with 4 starters.That’s asking for trouble.These guys need the extra rest they get on off days to make it to the post-season and beyond.

            You really want Cueto tired going into a Championship series?

            I’d much rather deal from a position of strength and include a key member of the bullpen in a deal for a bat and ask someone like Simon or Hoover to step up and fill the void, than I would mess with a shorthanded group of starting pitchers.

            Bad idea.

            I made it very clear that Bailey for Trout was a hypothetical to point out there there is someone worth trading Bailey for, the question is who. A “Willingham CF” is definitely someone to trade Bailey for. Obviously, I’d rather trade Simon, Hoover, or any bullpen pitcher outside of Chapman. Sadly, Wayne Krivsky isn’t GM for any team with a nice center fielder and a hole in their setup man rotation.

            Your response is full of “facts” that are not facts at all.

            1. You say the starters will tire if they pitch with exactly 4 days rest for the rest of the year. Where did you get that from? I’m sure it’s possible, but I’m aware of no study that looks at anything like this. As I’m sure you are aware, I did not suggest 3 days rest, but exactly 4 days rest.

            2. In doing so, the guy subbing for Bailey will pitch in 8-9 games. Presumably, this new guy will not pitch as many innings. But what’s the extra load on the bullpen? On average? 9 innings? Then you’ll probably say that the other 4 starters will not pitch as many innings, which is unsupported by fact. Also, the bullpen hasn’t been stressed much at all this year. They can’t find enough innings for the guys.

            3. In terms of Bailey, I’m judging him based on his career plus what he’ll be predicted to do the rest of this year based on the first half. His advanced numbers suggest a regression in the second half. Will he regress? I don’t know. I hope not.

            4. Ondrusek got tired last year, you say. Proof? None. In fact, Ondrusek pitched 12 more after the ASG in 2010 than 2011, and his ERA was low after the break. He pitched 22 innings last year after the break. He pitched 61 total. If that tires him out, he needs to find a new line of work. And you say he “can be great”. What a laugh. Have you checked his K/BB rate this year? His FIP over his career? His minor league career?

          • You say the starters will tire if they pitch with exactly 4 days rest for the rest of the year. Where did you get that from? I’m sure it’s possible, but I’m aware of no study that looks at anything like this

            I deal in common sense. Most people don’t need a study to acknowledge that if Cueto, Latos, Arroyo & Leake were asked to pitch more often from here to the end of the season, it would put more stress and uncertainly on arms (with the exception of Arroyo’s) that are probably on a pace to pitch a significant number of innings this year.

            You say my argument is poor because making blanket statements are always bad. Except, I wasn’t making a blanket statement. I was dealing with the context of this team’s current makeup and lack of viable backup options in the rotation. You implicitly admitted the weakness of your argument by making it about Bailey for Trout. That trade would never happen in a million years. NEVER. You know it, too. I mean, if you want to talk about why trading starting pitching this year in the form of Bailey would absolutely be a good idea because we could get an MVP candidate in return, then I guess I could counter with the option of digging up Roberto Clemente to play CF and just insist we stand pat.

            But, again, I’d rather discuss with you the possible.

            As for the number of innings Ondrusek has pitched after the ASG and using that information to make a point, you should recognize that it’s about more than simply the number of innings. It’s about getting the proper rest as well–a point you cavalierly ignore.

            If you want to argue with facts, it’s a much more honest discussion if you’re willing to acknowledge other peoples’ facts. Which you seem to have a hard time doing. When someone says Ondrusek was throwing 96, your reply is the radar gun must be wrong. When someone corrects you about the identity of the radio call, you grudgingly insist it sure sounded like Brantley. When Ondrusek was perfect for the first 6 weeks of the season, it was all luck.

            I get that you don’t like Bailey or Ondrusek. This is what I like to call the “Jay Bruce” effect. Whatever Bruce’s shortcomings are (and yes, they do exist), some people just like to hammer this kid because he’s hasn’t risen to be the player he was projected to be when he got here. This leads to a lot of hyperbole about every mistake a player makes while failing to give equal weight to the positive things a player adds to the team. All I see from your selective use of stats is that Ondrusek is one of your whipping boys.

            And, of course, I love the insistence that Bailey could bring something valuable in a trade while also insisting that he’s nothing special who is likely to “regress.” That’s a classic example of having your cake and eating it, too.

          • I deal in common sense.Most people don’t need a study to acknowledge that if Cueto, Latos, Arroyo & Leake were asked to pitch more often from here to the end of the season, it would put more stress and uncertainly on arms (with the exception of Arroyo’s) that are probably on a pace to pitch a significant number of innings this year.

            You say my argument is poor because making blanket statements are always bad.Except, I wasn’t making a blanket statement.I was dealing with the context of this team’s current makeup and lack of viable backup options in the rotation.You implicitly admitted the weakness of your argument by making it about Bailey for Trout.That trade would never happen in a million years.NEVER.You know it, too.I mean, if you want to talk about why trading starting pitching this year in the form of Bailey would absolutely be a good idea because we could get an MVP candidate in return, then I guess I could counter with the option of digging up Roberto Clemente to play CF and just insist we stand pat.

            But, again, I’d rather discuss with you the possible.

            As for the number of innings Ondrusek has pitched after the ASG and using that information to make a point, you should recognize that it’s about more than simply the number of innings.It’s about getting the proper rest as well–a point you cavalierly ignore.

            If you want to argue with facts, it’s a much more honest discussion if you’re willing to acknowledge other peoples’ facts.Which you seem to have a hard time doing.When someone says Ondrusek was throwing 96, your reply is the radar gun must be wrong.When someone corrects you about the identity of the radio call, you grudgingly insist it sure sounded like Brantley.When Ondrusek was perfect for the first 6 weeks of the season, it was all luck.

            I get that you don’t like Bailey or Ondrusek.This is what I like to call the “Jay Bruce” effect.Whatever Bruce’s shortcomings are (and yes, they do exist), some people just like to hammer this kid because he’s hasn’t risen to be the player he was projected to be when he got here.This leads to a lot of hyperbole about every mistake a player makes while failing to give equal weight to the positive things a player adds to the team.All I see from your selective use of stats is that Ondrusek is one of your whipping boys.

            And, of course, I love the insistence that Bailey could bring something valuable in a trade while also insisting that he’s nothing special who is likely to “regress.”That’s a classic example of having your cake and eating it, too.

            I really expect much better. I honestly don’t understand where you are coming from at all.

            About acknowledging facts, I said “Thanks for the clarification/correction” on the radio thing. I said earlier it was Brantley because it sounded like Brantley to me. I’m old. So, really? That’s what you’re bringing? In terms of the radar gun, I pointed to fangraphs. I do not run that site. If you don’t think radar guns have error, then you haven’t spent much time around cops. In terms of Ondrusek getting lucky, that’s a matter of opinion, and an opinion that you and others might disagree with but is hardly way out of whack. People talk about luck all the time around here.

            Re: Ondrusek, I wish you could explain how he got proper rest in 2010 but not in 2011. Or in 2012, when he’s logged 31 innings so far (is he overused this year, causing a K/BB ratio of 1?). I can’t say that he did get proper rest without some kind of log of all his outings plus all his times warmed up, etc. Maybe you possess that. Somehow you seem to think that I hate Ondrusek. Wrong. I dislike Baker for the use of him in high leverage situations. In terms of Bailey, I think he’s fine. I’ve clearly stated that I see him as a #4/5 starter, with an upside of #3. Maybe that’ll be wrong. Maybe he’ll be a #2 by year’s end, or worse than a #5.

            As an aside, what is my selective use of stats for Ondrusek? What stat, other than ERA (in 31 whole innings), is he above average at? You are the one on a limb, saying that he can be great. Actually, it’s more like a twig.

            You are the one who said they cannot trade Bailey. In terms of what’s possible, I don’t know, and neither do you. But packaging Bailey with a couple of prospects attractive to other teams—who knows what it would bring. For all we know, they’re going to trade Bailey and Hamilton for Josh Willingham. Bailey by himself, no, I don’t think he’s worth very much. You are confusing me with others who say Bailey stinks but that he’d bring a cleanup hitter if packaged with Stubbs.

            In terms of what I’d do, the answer is “upgrade the bench”, which can likely be done cheaply. A cleanup hitter will be too expensive, and a leadoff hitter not enough more impactful than reworking the lineup. My reaction to you was simply that you wrote a whole article saying that they *cannot* trade a starter because they only have 5, a position I still disagree with.

  26. @Racine Red: Right about the Reds against Volquez. Without the Reds doing him favors, Volquez would not have lasted longer than 5 innings.

  27. @Racine Red: I too doubt the Reds would make a trade that would make Redmond a member of the starting rotation. They do need depth there, I like the trade.

  28. I was at the game, waaaay up. I wasn’t really pleased with Dusty bringing Leake out for the 7th, and after the first couple of frozen ropes, I knew it would be a problem. Couple of heads-up plays, though — Votto’s throw home on the FC to prevent the go-ahead run was huge.

    Stubbs is utterly and totally lost at the plate. It’s miserable to watch. Stubbs is this year’s Taveras, big time. Bray and Lecure came up big today. Actually the whole bullpen looked pretty good. Marshall still seems a bit shaky, though. Good to see Rolen get a couple of knocks. Bad to see Frazier on the bench. Ah well.

    And the best part — my buddy and I got right out of the parking lot and on to I-75 with no trouble at all. So to celebrate, we stopped at the UDF on Harrison. No regrets.

    My yard flag now stands in my wife’s flower bed. She loves it. If by “love” I mean “abides.”

    • Stubbs is utterly and totally lost at the plate. It’s miserable to watch. Stubbs is this year’s Taveras, big time.

      That’s ridiculous. Stubbs has hit 9 home runs in half a year, which is more than Taveras did in his entire career probably. Taveras was also a huge liability in the OF. Stubbs is well above average. Stubbs had a hit today and hit the ball hard to CF one other time at least. He had a triple and home run at the end of the west coast road trip. We know from his track record that he goes through slumps. I think you can use his final numbers from 2011 as a guide for what to expect the rest of this year. He may not get all the way back to 2010. But he’s in a slump, he’s not a worse player than last year, let alone Willy Taveras.

      • That’s ridiculous. Stubbs has hit 9 home runs in half a year, which is more than Taveras did in his entire career probably. Taveras was also a huge liability in the OF. Stubbs is well above average. Stubbs had a hit today and hit the ball hard to CF one other time at least. He had a triple and home run at the end of the west coast road trip. We know from his track record that he goes through slumps. I think you can use his final numbers from 2011 as a guide for what to expect the rest of this year. He may not get all the way back to 2010. But he’s in a slump, he’s not a worse player than last year, let alone Willy Taveras.

        It’s not as much they do exactly the same thing. It’s probably more along the fact that, how each year Stubbs performance has decreased, and Baker keeps rolling him out there. I wouldn’t read too much in the HR’s for Stubbs. You can get that in GABP. But, quite obvious, Stubbs is no better than a 7 hole hitter. Quite obvious we have better hitters on this team than Stubbs. Maybe not ideal 2 hole hitter but obviously better than Stubbs.

    • I was at the game, waaaay up. I wasn’t really pleased with Dusty bringing Leake out for the 7th, and after the first couple of frozen ropes, I knew it would be a problem. Couple of heads-up plays, though — Votto’s throw home on the FC to prevent the go-ahead run was huge.

      Stubbs is utterly and totally lost at the plate. It’s miserable to watch. Stubbs is this year’s Taveras, big time. Bray and Lecure came up big today. Actually the whole bullpen looked pretty good. Marshall still seems a bit shaky, though. Good to see Rolen get a couple of knocks. Bad to see Frazier on the bench. Ah well.

      And the best part — my buddy and I got right out of the parking lot and on to I-75 with no trouble at all. So to celebrate, we stopped at the UDF on Harrison. No regrets.

      My yard flag now stands in my wife’s flower bed. She loves it. If by “love” I mean “abides.”

      How could you not bring Leake back in the 7th when he had thrown 6 scoreless? Come on, I don’t like Dusty but you can’t criticize him for that.

  29. @pinson343: Agree on Ondru. I don’t see how he can be successful with a top end of 91 which seemed to be all he had today. When he has the higher top end he can take a little bit off to help create confusion whether a pitch is a straight fastball or splitter. Alsp the extra 5MPH gives him a pith is safe to throw in fatter parts of the strike zone.

    • @pinson343: Agree on Ondru. I don’t see how he can be successful with a top end of 91 which seemed to be all he had today. When he has the higher top end he can take a little bit off to help create confusion whether a pitch is a straight fastball or splitter. Alsp the extra 5MPH gives him a pith is safe to throw in fatter parts of the strike zone.

      There was something like one or two games where the gun had Ondrusek throwing 97. My guess is that’s a bad gun.

      According to fangraphs, his fastball velocity is 92-93 and has been very consistent over the past 3 years. He is just not a hard thrower, and he’s certainly not a crafty pitcher.

  30. Chris Welsh has been good at play-by-play the times I’ve heard him.

    • Chris Welsh has been good at play-by-play the times I’ve heard him.

      Chris Welsh is terrible as a play by play announcer. He’s an analyst, just like Brantley. Neither guy should be doing any play by play.

  31. I was ticked off that I couldn’t watch the tv broadcast of today’s game. There was an mlb.com blackout because of the national broadcast, and the game was not broadcast here in NY.

    • I was ticked off that I couldn’t watch the tv broadcast of today’s game.There was an mlb.com blackout because of the national broadcast, and the game was not broadcast here in NY.

      These aren’t national broadcasts. They are regional, but Fox owns the time slot and everything is blacked out. It’s a terrible deal, but MLB doesn’t care about the fans only the TV money.

  32. So I guess Didi Gregorius is now the long term backup at shortstop?

    I guess whoever in the org it was that said back during spring that he was already an MLB caliber defensive SS must have held sway

  33. I was glad to see Bray have a good appearance.

    The Bill Bray that threw today could help the team. I think the Cards did him a favor by sending in the RH guy to bat against him.

    Bray threw over the top and went right after the guy instead of trying all the stunt stuff he tries with LH batters that has been getting hi in trouble.

  34. @OhioJim: Bray has in his career pitched better against lefties than righties but interestingly has walked more lefties.

  35. I also thought LeCure looked pretty nasty in the 10th.

    I’m not sure he isn’t a latter day Stormy Weathers (possibly a Stormy+) at some point down the line.

    He’s probably not a guy you would prefer to have closing for you but a guy who could do the job at league average or above; and I think he would do well as a set up guy.

  36. Wild stuff happened in both LA and SF with 2 outs in the top of the 9th. It can be rough to be a diehard baseball fan.

  37. @pinson343: I think versus lefties Bray pitches to get them to chase bad pitches instead of focusing on just throwing strikes. When they chase he does well. When they lay off he walks them too often.

  38. –Dusty managed the bullpen well today.
    –Sure hope they rest Votto tomorrow and play Frazier there. He just doesn’t look right.
    –Loved Verducci and Rosenthal on the broadcast. These guys clearly do their homework and don’t pass off dumb former player cliches as analysis.
    –I don’t mind the Janish trade. We really were a bit weak in SP depth. That is, IF you believe Corcino or Cingrani couldn’t take a handful of starts. On the downside, it pretty much solidifies Valdez’s spot on the team, which kills me.

    • –Dusty managed the bullpen well today.
      –Sure hope they rest Votto tomorrow and play Frazier there.He just doesn’t look right.
      –Loved Verducci and Rosenthal on the broadcast. These guys clearly do their homework and don’t pass off dumb former player cliches as analysis.
      –I don’t mind the Janish trade.We really were a bit weak in SP depth. That is, IF you believe Corcino or Cingrani couldn’t take a handful of starts.On the downside, it pretty much solidifies Valdez’s spot on the team, which kills me.

      Votto hit the ball hard the last time up. Keep him in the lineup he’s just going through a tough spell. Play Frazier at 3B

      • Votto hit the ball hard the last time up. Keep him in the lineup he’s just going through a tough spell. Play Frazier at 3B

        Agreed. You don’t take out a perrenial MVP because of a slump. Now, if his knee is bothering him, then yes, you do take him out, IMO. But, someone like Stubbs, you don’t give him anywhere near that kind of leash.

  39. @pinson343: The Padres were down to their last strike in LA and pulled off a double steal of home to win the game. The guy on 3rd races home, catching the pitcher by surprise. He throws it past the catcher, and the ump calls the base runner out ! But oops the ball is at the backstop and in all the confusion the guy on second also scores. This was one case where the ump had to reverse his call.

    The Giants had apparently won in the 9th but the would-be final strike got away from the catcher and the tying run scored.

  40. I gotta say, if the Cardinals announcers didn’t like Frazier’s home run on Friday, they were probably equally aghast at Ludwick’s shot. Which saddens me deeply. Not.

  41. @AnnapolisHoosier: Jocketty is like most GMs. He makes some good moves and he makes some bad moves. There is luck involved in moves. He also has some sort of budget limit, though we don’t know exactly what it is.

    The one thing I can’t take from him is the handling of Chapman.

  42. Logan Ondrusek has entered the bizzaro world. 5.4 BB/9 versus a 5.7 K/9 resulting in an x-FIP of 5.23. His saving grace is that despite walking far too many hitters or inability to strike people out, he’s a groundball pitcher who rarely gives up homeruns.

  43. I’ve watched the highlight clip about two dozen times and I’m 99% sure Ryan Ludwick never touched homeplate. Just saying. Adam Wainwright might have something to whine about. Adam Whinewright? How has that never happened before.

  44. Funny moment yesterday for those not at the game. The Reds show their standard Kiss Cam and, on the last screen, they switched to Adam Wainwright and Lance Berkman sitting next to each other in the dugout. Wainwright played along and through his arms around Berkman’s neck. The crowd got a good laugh. Cards get points for being good sports.

  45. The top 3 in the lineup now 1-23 and yet the Reds still won both games.

  46. I really really really wish Joey hadn’t played in the All Star Game. He’s clearly hurt and now I’m worried he’s going to keep trying to tough it out and it could nag him the rest of the season. He had a perfect chance to take a week off and lie on a couch with an ice pack but instead he had to play an exhibition game. At this point I wouldn’t mind giving Cairo a couple days at 1B. Or maybe Frazier?

  47. @Bill Lack: Also, how is Janish not a “career minor league guy” by now? I mean he was a decent emergency backup plan at SS in case Cozart and Valdez both went down but other than that I don’t think he was ever going to put on a Reds uniform again. Pitching is pitching and you can never have too much of it.

  48. Paul Janish is starting for the Braves, batting eighth. I feel really happy for him that he’s getting some more major league playing time and I hope he does well.

  49. @AnnapolisHoosier: The regional broadcasts are called “national according to regional market”.

  50. @TC: Without Carpenter and with a still recovering Wainwright, I like the Reds starting rotation more than the Cardinals. The Cardinals’ main advantage is position player depth.

  51. @LVW: If anything, Votto was too aggressive in trying for the out at home, and should have gotten the out at first.

    • @LVW: If anything, Votto was too aggressive in trying for the out at home, and should have gotten the out at first.

      The problem with that was there was noone to cover 1st and MVottoP! was playing 20 feet off the bag. I think Furcal beats him to the bag.

  52. @pinson343: PS My comment based on a broadcaster’s statement that the out at home was unlikely even if Votto handled the bunt cleanly. But not sure if that’s true, even with video review.

  53. @Steve Mancuso: Agree on Janish.
    He had enough moments offensively for the Reds to tantalyze folks and suggest that physically he can hit enough.. Maybe the shock of leaving his “parent” org and another shot at the bigs can help him find the focus to maintain his offense.

  54. One aspect of BABIP where good/bad luck is minimal is infield fly%. Ondru has excelled there this year 18.2%; Simon and Chapman have been good at 11.5 and 10% respectively.

  55. I think it’s more a matter of the Reds not really seeing a role for Janish in the future than a huge need for upgrading their depth – I’d take Pedro Villareal as an emergency starter anyday. He’s been completely solid all year long for a horrible Louisville team. JJ Hoover was brought through the Braves system as a starter and is starting in Louisville. Either would be fine starting at the major league level in a backup role. Reddmond does solidify the Louisville staff and makes that team much better as the Reds start moving some real prospects up the ladder. I think Walt may be thinking he doesn’t really want DiDi and LaMarre and other kids in Pensacola coming to Louisville while the team is losing almost daily. He’s made a couple depth moves there lately.

  56. Janish is an unlucky player. he was doing well and then got hurt. He seemed to can’t get it going and then did not get any chance this year with the Reds .Uncle Walt did not seem to think that he can beat out the yougster in AAA. The chance that the Reds get to get is a pitcher for a trade and Uncle Walt jumped at it. Janish- Yanish- he helped the Braves today though. Well I hope he keeps his opportunity intact! it is not easy to come by these days for a player at his age. Go Reds. 🙄 :mrgreen:

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