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Up Comes Frazier? (Updated: Cairo to DL)

Mark Sheldon is reporting that Todd Frazier either has been called up for the series in St. Louis or is trying to build his frequent flyer miles by sight-seeing at the Gateway Arch.

The Reds haven’t made an announcement.

Frazier hit .291/.339/.691 (that’s an OPS of 1.030) this spring, with 5 HR and 15 RBI.

Last year, in one month with the Reds, Frazier had 6 HR and 15 RBI and hit .232/.289/.438.

Chad posted this link of a nice article on Frazier yesterday. You can watch the video of Frazier’s one home run for the Bats this week.

UPDATE: The Reds have placed Miguel Cairo on the DL. Richard from Springboro is probably surprised the Reds didn’t send Joey Votto back to AAA.

52 thoughts on “Up Comes Frazier? (Updated: Cairo to DL)

    • Maybe he’ll start tonight…isn’t Rolen due another day off?

      Your Hilarious!

  1. Does this mean Chicken Pasta Alfredo Simon is getting the boot? We can only hope.

    More likely that BP is going on the IR for a short period of time? Or that the Reds are seeing that Rolen is d-o-n-e (I love the guy, and hate to admit it, but he needs to retire and go coach baseball @ Jasper HS) and are finding some 3B help.

    If they can see that Rolen is toast, why can’t they see that Chapman needs to be starting and Homey needs to join Chicken Alfredo in, um, anywhere but Cincinnati?

  2. It was bound to happen sooner or later, and judging by Frazier’s words in the press, he knew it was only a matter of time. Good for him—he’s one of the good guys. Now if we can just get rid of Wee Willie Harris.

  3. Cairo’s been a nice utility player. I won’t knock him but he’s 37 and won’t be here next year. One would think Frazier will be so let’s go with Todd at 3B. He needs to re-introduce himself to Dusty so Toothpick knows he’s in the dugout.

  4. I’m assuming this means Cairo to the DL. At this point in his career, I could easily see it being his last trip to the DL. Hopefully Frazier proves his worth and we can let Cairo retire with a little dignity left. Miggy’s a real ballplayer, but he looks pretty done. I’ll be much happier to see Frazier at 3B on Rolen’s mandatory days off, and our bench just got some more pop.

  5. @preach: He’s what, 27 years old? He’s as major league ready as he’s going to get. He’s never going to be an All Star, but he’s an upgrade for the bench and the infield depth.

    • @preach: He’s what, 27 years old? He’s as major league ready as he’s going to get. He’s never going to be an All Star, but he’s an upgrade for the bench and the infield depth.

      Just using Dusty logic, that’s all.

  6. So lets say he is here for the next 15 games while Cairo heals…What is the over/under of number of games he starts?

    I am going with 3…

  7. @dn4192: First of all, I don’t think Cairo will be storming back on the 15th day. And I don’t know if the organization can justify sending Frazier BACK down again even if he did. At some point Willie Harris’ left-handedness is not going to be enough to keep him over a much more valuable utility guy like Frazier. But looking at the schedule over the next few weeks, there’s a whole lot of day games. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Frazier get 4-5 starts at 3B and, if he’s hitting, maybe a start in the OF. If BP’s still not 100% but staying off the DL it could mean a couple more.

    • @dn4192: First of all, I don’t think Cairo will be storming back on the 15th day. And I don’t know if the organization can justify sending Frazier BACK down again even if he did. At some point Willie Harris’ left-handedness is not going to be enough to keep him over a much more valuable utility guy like Frazier. But looking at the schedule over the next few weeks, there’s a whole lot of day games. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Frazier get 4-5 starts at 3B and, if he’s hitting, maybe a start in the OF. If BP’s still not 100% but staying off the DL it could mean a couple more.

      No chance Willie Harris goes anywhere, he is your LEFT Handed power off the bench WITH Veteran Creaminess which Dusty Loves…

  8. So while there appears to be some semblance of sanity, albeit an injury mandated sanity, why don’t we hope beyond hope and wish for a clean sweep of the aging, non-producing reserves picking up major league splinters from our bench. Here’s a vote for shedding Wee Willie and Wilson in favor of Valaika and Janish. When Cairo comes back (I’m assuming that Fazier is replacing Cairo and not BP) after at least 2-3 (probably more like 4-6, his hammy looked bad) weeks on the DL, then a decision on one of those four players would need to be made. There is no drop off in defense, flexibility or offense with giving all three AAA players a chance now, and this opens space on the AAA roster to move Didi up and (dare we say it) maybe even move Hamilton up. Didi and Hamilton are smoking the ball in A+ and AA and at least one (if not both) of them is going to have to move to another position besides SS & 2B at the major league level if that play in Cincinnati. The AAA outfield is certainly not producing right now. The same can be said of 2/3 of the Cincinnati outfield right now … hmmmmmmmmm …

  9. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m actually ok with Valdez… please get rid of Wee Willie Harris though.

  10. It was idiotic to cut Frazier in the first place. When do we get to send Rolen down? Down to the DL? The lineup? The bench?

  11. Frazier has to be for Cairo’s spot. … I’m on the “free Willie” bandwagon but could tolerate Valdez a little more easily……..I’m more concerned about Phillips, because I think the Reds feel they need him for this Cardinals’ series. If he re-injures it, maybe after that, he goes on the DL until it’s reasonably better.

    As for the over/under number of 3 for Frazier? I’m taking the under, and wondering what size painter’s smock he wears.

  12. I honestly don’t want to see what is necessary for Roles to be benched in season. I think a brand new manager would be the most likely benching scenario tbh. I could see him getting a ton of rest and splitting time over their as well.

  13. They don’t need to bench Rolen, just move him down in the batting order. Maybe I’m more optimistic than others here about Rolen, but I think he’s going to hit.

    I’m not sure why he’s only playing 2 out of every 3 days. Is he still recovering and that’s doctors orders? Is Baker/Jocketty trying to keep him off the DL until the end of the season? If it’s the former (and I don’t think it is) then he should be on the DL until he can play every day. If it’s the latter, I would play him 5 of 6 or 6 of 7. How’s he supposed to get any sort of rhythm going taking a day off every couple of game?

  14. @shadow32: Statistically, Bailey has been better than Leake or Latos this season. He leads the starters in Ks and since his first inning of his first start has an ERA of under 3.00.

    • @: Statistically, Bailey has been better than Leake or Latos this season.He leads the starters in Ks and since his first inning of his first start has an ERA of under 3.00.

      I like the optimism, but this is pretty serious cherry picking. Yes, Bailey has a slightly better ERA than Latos or Leake, and he is tied with Arroyo for the lead in Ks.

      But, he also leads the starters in hits given up (13) walks (7) and HR (3). That’s in 11.2 IP. Those are pretty atrocious rates, which suggests that he’s going to keep struggling.

      And while I hope he can be the pitcher you’re thinking (with the ERA under 3), we all know that Bailey has always gotten killed by the big innings. He melts down and groves fastballs and they git hit out. So I’m less forgiving with him than other pitchers when it comes to “if it only weren’t for this inning.”

  15. They don’t need to bench Rolen, just move him down in the batting order. Maybe I’m more optimistic than others here about Rolen, but I think he’s going to hit.

    I’m not sure why he’s only playing 2 out of every 3 days. Is he still recovering and that’s doctors orders? Is Baker/Jocketty trying to keep him off the DL until the end of the season? If it’s the former (and I don’t think it is) then he should be on the DL until he can play every day. If it’s the latter, I would play him 5 of 6 or 6 of 7. How’s he supposed to get any sort of rhythm going taking a day off every couple of game?

    I don’t see your point about Rolen not playing everyday. The guy likely simply cannot play that often without either getting injury or performance decline. I understand the rhythym part, but the same could be said for the catchers (I doubt Mesoraco has EVER had to watch 3 of every 5 games in his life), and both our LFs. Heck, Stubbs is probably a guy that should get days off here and there…how they ran him out there 158 games last year is amazing.

  16. UPDATE: The Reds have placed Miguel Cairo on the DL. Richard from Springboro is probably surprised the Reds didn’t send Joey Votto back to AAA.

    Brilliant!

  17. I’m glad Frazier is back with the team, I hope he can stick this time. He’s got legit power, that’s clear.

    In terms of fixing the offense, there’s just too much going wrong right now to be able to fix it through player moves.

    Look at these OPSs:

    .660 – Ludwick
    .586 – Phillips
    .554 – Heisey
    .481 – Mesoraco
    .474 – Valdez
    .462 – Hannigan
    .422 – Cairo
    .377 – Stubbs
    .353 – Rolen
    .229 – Harris

    That’s 10 out of 13 position players, all but Cozart, Votto, and Bruce, below league average (.707 right now). Rolen and Harris aren’t even at half of league average.

    So I like getting Frazier and I would like to get rid of Harris, but in reality, as frustrating as it is, all we can do is hope that these guys turn it around.

    If we get to the point where we have to start benching our starting 3b, CF, 2B, LF, etc because of performance, the season is already lost.

  18. Anyone else notice that Jeff Francis has been dominating AAA? 1.35 WHIP. 21 SOs in 17 Innings. Youch!

    • Dominating might be a bit of an overstatement (Arroyo had a 1.367 WHIP last year), but he is playing well.

      Anyone else notice that Jeff Francis has been dominating AAA? 1.35 WHIP. 21 SOs in 17 Innings. Youch!

  19. @TC: TC, not only Francis, but three relievers on the AAA staff who are recently converted starters and are having pretty solid starts to 2012: Carroll (his 1st year as a reliever), Webb (his 2nd year as a reliever) & Hoover (his 2nd year as a reliever). Webb is a left hander with 3 K’s against left handed hitters in 2 innings). I still think the Reds need Chapman in the starting rotation and I still think that Bailey could resurrect a flailing career by converting to a reliever.

    • @: I still think the Reds need Chapman in the starting rotation and I still think that Bailey could resurrect a flailing career by converting to a reliever.

      Couldn’t agree with this post more. While the offense has been the main problem, there are certainly issues with the pitching as well. The difference is that with the pitching there seem to be pretty decent solutions.

      I’d like to see what Bailey could do if he could really air out the fastball. When he was hitting 95-96 in the first inning of his start he looked awesome. Then he slowed it down and got much more hittable.

      Hoover seems like a good option to replace Simon when the time comes.

  20. I love the move, and believe that Frazier will be better than many think in time if given enough at bats. This move may not be good for my health though. I’ve finally located and reassembled all critical body parts after my spontaneous combustion when I found that Frazier was going down while Simon and Harris stayed on the roster. I will once again explode the first time Rolen gets 1-2 days off and anyone starts but Frazier.

    Regarding the lineup, we’ll be fine overall. Harris and Simon need to go. If you ship out Valdez, we need to bring up Janish and I’m not clouded enough by two weeks of AAA ball to think he’s an offensive upgrade. I do agree we should get Chapman in the rotation, but don’t see it happening until an injury forces Dusty’s hand, and even then it may be Francis.

  21. Janish is starting at 3rd tonight for the Bats. As for Frazier, I am willing to bet someone other then Frazier sees playing time at Third when Rolen needs a day off. Frazier just has not developed enough veteran creaminess yet to be a viable option for Dusty.

    • Janish is starting at 3rd tonight for the Bats.As for Frazier, I am willing to bet someone other then Frazier sees playing time at Third when Rolen needs a day off.Frazier just has not developed enough veteran creaminess yet to be a viable option for Dusty.

      i’m a little bit out on a limb here, but i’m going to bet that dusty plays him at third in place of rolen.

      i just hope that frazier makes it impossible for them to send him down when cairo gets back.

  22. Mez has 12 ABs this season. I’ll be real curious to see if he starts tonight. And really, Hanigan doesn’t benefit either in this current setup—his effectiveness diminshes when he plays full time.

  23. Rolen still batting clean up against a RHP. Sigh. Frazier marinating. Hanigan catching. Phillips playing.

    1. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
    2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
    3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
    4. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
    5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
    6. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
    7. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
    8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
    9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

    • Rolen still batting clean up against a RHP. Sigh. Frazier marinating. Hanigan catching. Phillips playing. 1. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B2. Zack Cozart (R) SS3. Joey Votto (L) 1B4. Scott Rolen (R) 3B5. Jay Bruce (L) RF6. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF7. Drew Stubbs (R) CF8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

      At the very least this looks more like a major league lineup than what we have been running out there lately (glass half full).

    • Fire Dusty? Fire Walt?

      Umm, while I would disagree you could make an argument for Dusty. But Jocketty? Really?? Explain please.

  24. Alright Reds. Let’s sweep this thing and send the WLB’s down a peg.
    Must. Solve. Lohse.

  25. on an off note, anyone know if bakersfield is in a hitters league? billy hamilton is off to an outrageous start, and i wondered how much to trust the numbers from high A.

  26. If Devin is only going to play in about 25% of the games this season then wouldn’t it be better for his development to be in AAA playing everyday and say have Corky be Hannigan’s backup?

    • If Devin is only going to play in about 25% of the games this season then wouldn’t it be better for his development to be in AAA playing everyday and say have Corky be Hannigan’s backup?

      No.

  27. @dn4192: If Hannigan is still getting a 2:1 ratio of starts in a month or so I’ll agree. But I really don’t know how much goes into catching a major league staff, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Mez is doing a lot of work behind the scenes right now getting up to speed.

    • @al: If Hannigan is still getting a 2:1 ratio of starts in a month or so I’ll agree. But I really don’t know how much goes into catching a major league staff, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Mez is doing a lot of work behind the scenes right now getting up to speed.

      Wasn’t that what Feb/March were for?

  28. Calling the Cardinals the WLB’s doesn’t seem the same without LaRussa, Duncan, and Carpenter. Sigh. Oh well. It had a nice run.

  29. @dn4192: Yeah, and again, I’m not really disagreeing with you in principle. But Hannigan has been catching the Reds for 5 years, and if they want to ease Mez into that, I could buy it.

    It’s different for catchers than any other position. When they were easing Votto in at first it didn’t make any sense.

  30. @TC: I’m not saying that I think Jocketty should be fired, but this is a poorly constructed team in a lot of ways. He’s done a lot that I like, but he’s not above critique by any stretch.

    The Arroyo and Rolen extensions have really set this team back. On performance alone, both of them should have been competing to make the team this year, but their dollar signs made them guaranteed starters.

    Then he filled in the roster with a full list of has-beens and never-weres. Valdez has a career OPS+ of 66, Harris checks in at 80. Ryan Ludwick has put up 105, 104, and 90 the last three years, is 33, and is a RH platoon partner for the RH Heisey, who has a career OPS+ of 106.

    None of that really makes any sense.

  31. @CI3J: While I agree Molina was a key figure in the brawl almost 2 years ago, I wouldn’t call him whiny. I’ll ask a simple question: Would you take Molina in the Reds lineup? I would.

  32. I think one could definitely be critical of Walt for the bench on this team.

    They KNEW they needed a LH bat, but they signed Ludwick instead (to no one’s surprise, a Cardinal alumni). He was signed for $2M this year, with a $5M team option with a $500K buyout.

    The name that jumps out to me as an alternate is Fukudome. Yes, he’s in his age 35 season, but he’s cheaper ($500K this year, $3.5M team option ($500K buyout) next)and meets the Reds needs more than Ludwick does. Better defensively, hits from the left hand side, etc.

    The only asset (other than being a former Card) that Ludwick has is that he’s a 33 year old Chris Heisey. But why do we need 2 Chris Heisey’s?

    Other than the bench, I’m pretty happy with the job Jocketty has done, but this is 2 years in a row that he didn’t address issues effectively that were very obvious to even the most casual of fans..

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