The Reds have apparently signed Brett Tomko to a minor league deal, which is completely awesome. It appears that the club is still negotiating with Jimmy Haynes, however.

23 Responses

  1. Jason Linden

    I know this is totally a minor signing, but it makes me happy. After the Marshall trade, I was VERY worried about SP depth. Between this signing and Francis, the Reds can sustain a pitching injury or two before it gets really messy.

    • vegastypo

      I know this is totally a minor signing, but it makes me happy. After the Marshall trade, I was VERY worried about SP depth. Between this signing and Francis, the Reds can sustain a pitching injury or two before it gets really messy.

      No harm in adding another arm, obviously, given that the Reds have big questions about so many starters (will Homer finally put it all together, was Arroyo’s 2011 badness more of a health issue than a washed-up issue, how quickly can Chapman make a transition to starting), but I’d just as soon have LeCure as a fifth starter unless Francis or Tomko come into camp and really look like they did years ago. Tomko could just as easily be a long man in the bullpen, I would think. Just haven’t heard much about LeCure this offseason …

  2. CaptainTonyKW

    That Dusty will probably run him out there every 5 games just because he is a veteran!?!!!!

  3. 90reds

    Mike Cameron better be next. If we get him, I will feel much better about the Griffey trade

  4. CI3J

    What’s Pete Harnisch up to these days??

  5. CI3J

    Sort of on topic/sort of not, but if by some miracle Chapman pitches completely lights out through Spring Training, what does the Opening Day rotation project as, assuming Chapman will be in it?

    Cueto, Latos, Chapman (He would actually probably be the 5th starter because of inning limits)

    Who among Arroyo/Leake/Bailey would go where? Would someone go to the ‘pen? Would someone get sent down? Bailey probably can’t go to the ‘pen since it takes him forever to warm up…..

    Just curious what people’s thoughts are.

  6. Travis G.

    Leake has also pitched out of the ‘pen, so that could push LeCure or Ondrusek down to Triple-A. Good problem to have, really: “Oh no, our stud left-hander is pitching lights out. Whatever shall we do with our less talented pitchers?”

    My friend texted me about the Tomko signing, and I reminded him that he was still better than Jimmy Haynes (and probably wouldn’t pitch for the Reds this season). I remember when Haynes was one of our five best starters. Ugh.

  7. RiverCity Redleg

    @Travis G.: One of our best five? Hell, Haynes was our opening day starter a couple of years. Oh, the good ol days.

  8. cliff

    Paul Wilson, Seth Etherton, Scott Sullivan, Pete Harnisch, and my favorite, Danny Graves.

    • Dan

      Paul Wilson, Seth Etherton, Scott Sullivan, Pete Harnisch, and my favorite, Danny Graves.

      Hey now – I don’t know if you meant this in a derogatory way, but all these guys (except Etherton) had good years for the Reds.

      The ones who personify the dark days of the early 2000’s Reds pitching staff are Jimmy Haynes and Jimmy “8.84 ERA” Anderson.

      • Greg Dafler

        The ones who personify the dark days of the early 2000′s Reds pitching staff are Jimmy Haynes and Jimmy “8.84 ERA” Anderson.

        Even Jimmy Haynes first year in Cincinnati wasn’t bad results-wise. (Made 34 GS, 17 QS, 15 wins, 4.12 ERA, 105 ERA+.) b-r.com has him as a 2.5 WAR player that year making only $500k.

        The problem was all his peripherals screamed that 2002 was non-repeatable, and Bowden’s idiocy of giving him the 2-yr, $5-million deal. The new stadium caused a spike to his HR-allowed rate, and he posted a -2.7 WAR in just 22 starts over the next two seasons.

  9. dn4192

    I am continually amazed at how people think Chapman will be anywhere near ready or able to pitch as a starter by the end of ST. It would be a disservice to him and the team. He needs at least 2-3 months in AAA to work on things before he is anywhere near ready.

    As for signing Brett, I love it, it adds a veteran depth who can start or pitch out of the Pen, plus I know him so it’s good to see him back in a Reds uniform…

  10. CP

    Hint: the phrase, “but if by some miracle” might indicate the poster doesn’t actually think Chapman will be ready.

  11. Redsfanx

    It appears Brett is a substitute for Oswalt. 😯

  12. Matt WI

    @Redsfanx: Not unless they were going to ask Roy to pitch in Louisville until they need him. Tomoko is just about depth, not production.

  13. preach

    It doesn’t matter how you define ‘good years’; when your opening day starters are Paul Wison and Jimmy Haynes, your season is hit in the mouth….

    And I don’t know how anyone could have thought the Graves experiment could possibly have anything other than “Iceberg dead ahead” written on it.

    It is a nice feeling to know that we may be sending guys to the minors who could have started opening day a few years back.

  14. rightsaidred

    @preach: Never again will a guy whose out pitch was the slurve be a closer.

    I don’t know that was the case but it certainly seemed to be as a teenager watching Graves come into the game and proceed to dig his own.

  15. pinson343

    Even if Chapman makes the starting rotation after a miraculous spring (note the use of “miraculous”) I still see Leake as making the starting rotation, unless he has a terrible spring. He was the Reds 2nd best starter last season.

    What he has accomplished in two pro seasons is underrated, even by Reds fans. And don’t even mention the bullpen for him – he likes to pitch on a regular basis and did not pitch well out of the pen in his limited experience there.

  16. cliff

    I actually genuinely liked all those guys.