2011 Reds / 2012 Reds

So long, Ramon Hernandez

Ramon Hernandez is now a former Red. Clutch Man Monie has signed a two-year deal with Colorado. That ends a pretty good three-year tenure for Hernandez behind the plate in Cincinnati.

I’m not surprised Ramon is leaving, but I was very surprised at how productive he was as a Red. I wish him nothing but the best of luck, and will remember his Reds career in a positive light.

Time to turn the page. Looks clear that Devin Mesoraco and Ryan Hanigan will be the catching tandem in 2012, as we had hoped. This could be fun.

17 thoughts on “So long, Ramon Hernandez

  1. We bought a hamster for my daughter last opening day. She (and she) walked through the door just moments before Hernandez won the game with his walk-off homer. The hamster’s name – Ramona – will be my ongoing tribute to Hernandez.

  2. It’s not often you can say the Reds fleeced someone when it comes to trades, but getting Ramon was a big win. Gotta like the supplemental first round pick too!!
    Best memory—-hands down, the walkoff on Opening Day.
    Worst memory—the pitch calling, like Chinese water torture.

  3. Agree – Monie was great here. He was a productive player, and he looked like he had fun doing it too. Nothing but good wishes to him.

    (Also, agree – can you believe we traded Freel for him? Wow.)

  4. Always liked Ramon. He did a heck of a job when he was here and seemed like a good clubhouse guy as well. Hopefully Devin and Ryan will keep it rolling.

  5. I seem to remember that some here did not think he would be that good of an addition to the franchise when he came over espeically since there was talk of some “baggage” he was bringing with him.

    Also we complain sometimes here that the Reds over pay…did the Rockies get a steal, a good deal or overpay for Ramon on this 2 year deal? If the Reds didn’t have Devin ready, would it been a good deal to match that offer?

    • Also we complain sometimes here that the Reds over pay…did the Rockies get a steal, a good deal or overpay for Ramon on this 2 year deal? If the Reds didn’t have Devin ready, would it been a good deal to match that offer?

      i think the deal sounds pretty fair. for his production level last year, it’s a steal for the rockies. problem is, he’s going to be 36 and has caught his whole career. he’s really going to have to beat the odds to keep producing at that level.

      so the risk of him collapsing offsets some of the value of the contract. i bet he could have gotten $5mil for a one year deal from someone. so another way to look at it is the rockies are paying $5mil for this year and $1.5 mil for next year, when he’s less likely to be able to produce at 2011 levels.

  6. I was one that didn’t like the deal…I admit it, he was much more productive that I expected. He was also not the clubhouse problem he reportedly was in Baltimore. I have no problem admitting I was wrong and wish him good luck in Colorado.

    Actually, we traded Freel and 2 minor leaguers for him (Justin Turner, now a major league Met and Brandon Waring, whose career stalled in the minors and is still in AA ball).

  7. I’ll always remember Ramon’s walk off HR on Opening Day of this past season. A forgettable season but one of the best moments of the year. Good luck Ramon.

  8. Ramon Hernandez and Ryan Hanigan really have done a nice job over the past three seasons turning the catcher position from a total black hole in the lineup to a very productive spot. Defensively they have been good and were really excellent in 2010 especially with pickoff plays.

    • Ramon Hernandez and Ryan Hanigan really have done a nice job over the past three seasons turning the catcher position from a total black hole in the lineup to a very productive spot.

      I can’t talk about this enough. I was not a Hernandez fan. He had a reputation of being lazy, and appeared to be on the downside of his career.

      Yet, he was great as a Red, overall. I’m a Hernandez fan. He wasn’t the best catcher defensively, but I have no issues whatsoever about his time as a Red. He exceeded every expectation.

  9. I never thought I’d be saying this, but really, the Reds have to be hoping that Deving Mesoraco can reproduce Ramon’s numbers. If he does, at league minimum, that’s a huge score.

    Obviously, I hope the kid does better, and hopefully he will eventually, but an .800 OPS is a lot to expect of a rookie catcher, and that’s basically what Ramon has given us the last two years.

    CERA is a pretty flawed stat, but I do think Ramon was worse at calling games or receiving, or something that hurt his pitchers. Hopefully Devin will be better at that too.

  10. Hernandez did have a flair for some big hits in games. Beyond the homer on opening day, I remember a couple of the earlier ones his first year really well. He hit a homer late in Houston in a real tight pitching matchup early in the year. Best tickets I ever got to a Reds game was a early game against the Reds when Votto had his issues and Ramon made his debut at first base and got the game winning hit and made that crazy strech play on a double play where he literally did the splits catching the ball.

  11. Hernandez came to the Reds as a 33 year old full time catcher coming off of two consecutive .714 OPS seasons. The Reds reduced his role to more of a platoon catcher and he appeared to be still in decline putting up a .699 OPS as a 33 year old. Tip of the cap to Ramon for bucking the odds and rebounding to his former offensive level as 34 (.792 OPS) and 35 (.788 OPS) year old, albeit it in a platoon type role. His reputed horrid defense was in full display though with his time as a Red. I was pleasantly surprised that he did not continue to decline as I predicted the last two seasons, but I’m still really glad that it’s the Rockies gambling $3M a year on him being able to continue to hit as a 36 and 37 year old and not the Reds.

  12. Well WJ’s waiting not to trade Ramon really worked out. The thing is, letting Ramon walk is easy when you have Mesoraco coming up. The question is…what does WJ do about Brandon Phillips. I for one, make him play out the year before making any long-term commitments.

  13. did you know, there are only 10 Reds catchers in Reds history with 1000 PA and an OPS+ of 100 or greater?

    Hernandez is one of those 10

    He was not in the same league as Bench, Lombardi, Hargrave or Burgess

    but when think of just his hitting Hernandez is in the next group with
    Pavletich, Bailey, Clarke, Taubensee and Ray Mueller

    1011 PA with a 109 OPS+

    during his 3 years from the Reds, only 9 catchers hit better than Hernandez

    never liked the deal but Hernandez sure did produce at the plate

    • but when think of just his hitting Hernandez is in the next group with
      Pavletich, Bailey, Clarke, Taubensee and Ray Mueller

      Exactly, I was thinking that a Taubensee comparison would be about right.

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