From John Fay and the Enquirer:

Aroldis Chapman is back throwing pain-free, but Winter Ball is no longer part of his offseason plan.

“We’ve decided against sending him to Puerto Rico,” Walt Jocketty said. “He’s on a strength-and-conditioning program in Arizona. He’ll go to Florida after that and continue to work out.”

Chapman made two appearances in the Arizona Fall League. He was scheduled to start Oct. 31, but he scratched with shoulder stiffness.

The plan was to go to Puerto Rico to pitch in Winter Ball after the Oct. 31 start. The Reds did not want to take that risk. Unlike the AFL, Winter Ball is not a controlled situation and it is very competitive.

“There’s no injury,” Jocketty said. “We just want to make sure he’s 100 percent. He had the shoulder issue during the season.”

The plan is still to start Chapman. He’ll have plenty of time to build innings during spring training.

I hope that we’re hearing the true story here and that it’s nothing…and that he’s still slated to start. If they don’t re-sign Cordero (or some other closer) at a lesser contract, the Reds are going to be very tempted to try Chapman as closer.

I’ve been a Reds fan since the late ’60’s, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in ’84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in ’90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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  1. Doesn’t sound like nothing to me. He’s not going to throw many innings worth of cometition ball this offseason. I don’t see how he will be ready to start next season in the rotation. Bullpen, here we come….

  2. Let’s be generous and say Chapman can start 10 winter ball games. If he pitched great, he’d get 30-40 innings in. 30-40 innings of uncoached innings are not going to prepare him any better than starting in spring training.

  3. Strength and conditioning sounds good to me, until February.

  4. Unrelated: Hey Guys, I can understand that you want to make a few bucks for all of your hard work and…thought provoking insight. Still, advertising for Cardinals World Series tees? I can only assume this is the result of your affiliation with E(vil)SPN.

  5. This is the key sentence: “Unlike the AFL, Winter Ball is not a controlled situation and it is very competitive.”

    Given the team’s prior concerns with shoulder strength, holding him out of winter ball seems a prudent and wise precautionary measure. The managers down there don’t give a rat’s hindparts about the Reds’ $31 million investment.

  6. Is anybody else seeing a borderline pornographic ad on this page for “Mutually Beneficial Arrangements?”

    If not, you might be thinking it’s tailored to me — but I don’t see ads like this on other sites, and this is my work computer (I’m not dumb enough to use it for anything that would get me in trouble).

  7. I think we need to stop this sham of an idea that Chapman will ever be a starting pitcher for the Reds. Move him to the closer position and move on.

  8. I have been saying this for months- TRADE HIM NOW! The Reds can not afford a $6MM middle reliever who can’t go more than 1-2 innings, max. He is not consistant enough with his location to be the closer and by the time he does figure that out, he’ll be a free agent.

  9. @renbutler: Ha, I did but I thought it was just a(n awesome) reaction to my complaint about ads for Cardinals t-shirts…

  10. @Bob Purkey:

    with some work this offseason I don’t see why he can’t be an effective closer.

  11. @renbutler: Yes I’m seeing that ad too. It’s a bit of a distraction.

  12. There is no way he will be ready to start by the beginning of next year. If he could be ready by about June, which would be alright to keep his innings down a little and getting that early summer push from a new arm. I’m not sold on him anywhere, he still has to prove himself as a starter, and he has already proven he can’t go many multiple games as a reliever.

  13. Chapman is going to be an issue this season. He’s not ready to be a starter, he still does not have command, will throw way too many pitches, will burn up the bullpen with 4-5 inning outings with high pitch counts, will not be able to complete the season as a starter, so we’ll need two starters identified in advance for that rotation slot. If anyone wants to give me something useful for him, I’d deal him.

    • Chapman is going to be an issue this season. He’s not ready to be a starter, he still does not have command, will throw way too many pitches, will burn up the bullpen with 4-5 inning outings with high pitch counts, will not be able to complete the season as a starter, so we’ll need two starters identified in advance for that rotation slot. If anyone wants to give me something useful for him, I’d deal him.

      Well according to the website Red Reporter this may be in teh works which might allow the Reds to put Chapman as the closer…

      “It’s been a quiet month in Redsland, but things just got interesting. According to an unnamed source, the Dodgers are not only listening on their ace Clayton Kershaw, but are close to a deal that would send him to Cincinnati.

      As is well known, the Dodgers’ ownership situation is in flux. Outgoing owner Frank McCourt has instructed GM Ned Coletti to curtail spending in an attempt to make the team’s payroll situation more attractive to prospective buyers. Kershaw is arbitration-eligible for the first time this off-season and MLBTradeRumors projects a salary north of $8 mil. Considering that Kershaw is a favorite to win the Cy Young this year, he would easily be the most attractive pitcher on the market if they decided to make him available.

      It looks like he is being made available, and it looks like the Reds are keen to capitalize. The source, who claims to have information from someone in the Reds organization, says the package of players that might be headed to LA includes Yonder Alonso, Yasmani Grandal, Edinson Volquez, and Homer Bailey. The Dodgers are reportedly very keen on Alonso and want him to replace James Loney at 1B, whom they intend to non-tender. Volquez and Bailey are included to free up $5 mil or so to fit Kershaw into the Reds’ budget.

      The deal isn’t finalized yet though, as Coletti is awaiting approval from McCourt, who is reportedly busy hosting monkey knife fights on his yacht. “

      • Well according to the website Red Reporter this may be in teh works which might allow the Reds to put Chapman as the closer…

        If Mr. 7 BB/9IP becomes closer, we’re going to need a lot more ulcer medication next season in the Nation.

  14. I would make that deal for Kershaw in a minute.

    Also, the PR winter league is not the Wild West of baseball. MLB has more than it’s share of sponsorship and oversight since so many of its players are involved. I, for one, would prefer to see Chapman in some serious competitive innings this Winter while building arm strength in order to be able to properly assess where we should use him, or if he should be packaged in a deal.

    What is the spread on the monkeys, btw?

  15. That’s not a real story, unfortunately (it’s filed under the tag “fake news”), but that would certainly be exciting. But I’ve got to think the Reds could really open some ears if they swapped out Chapman for Volquez or Bailey in that proposed deal.

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I've been a Reds fan since the late '60's, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in '84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in '90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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