2010 Reds

Rusty Relievers

Good starting pitching leaves one problem for the Reds roster: not enough innings for 7 relief pitchers.

– Reds relievers made 9 appearances during the 3-game Cubs series (May 7-9)
– The bullpen has been called on for just 11 appearances in the next 7 games
– Cordero, Masset, and Rhodes have made 9 of those 11 appearances and pitched in 3 games each.

Games pitched by reliever for the last 10 games:

Reliever Games # vs Cubs # last 7 Last day pitched
Cordero 4 1 3 5/17
Masset 5 2 3 5/17
Rhodes 4 1 3 5/15
Herrera 3 2 1 5/17, 5/8 before that
Lincoln 2 1 1 5/14, 5/8 before that
Owings 1 1 0 5/7
Fisher 1 1 0 5/7

6 thoughts on “Rusty Relievers

  1. One concern I do have is the heavy usage of Rhodes and Cordero. Rhodes is a stud, but he is not young and he pitched a lot of innings last year. Cordero seems to lose effectiveness when he has to pitch frequently. Would be nice if we could spot them in some “mid-leverage” situations at least.

    • One concern I do have is the heavy usage of Rhodes and Cordero.Rhodes is a stud, but he is not young and he pitched a lot of innings last year.Cordero seems to lose effectiveness when he has to pitch frequently. Would be nice if we could spot them in some “mid-leverage” situations at least.

      I think Dusty’s at least been trying here. He makes a conscious effort to use Rhodes only when we really need him to win a game, and rarely uses Rhodes 2 days in a row. He talks a lot about how he has to conserve Rhodes to keep him healthy.

      He also only uses CoCo in save situations, or tie games at home, but has made some bad decisions in terms of turning non-save situations into save situations. Like last nite, going with Herrera in the 9th when Owings or Lincoln could have closed it out.
      When we had a 5 run going in to the 9th in a game in Houston, he brings in Masset back when Masset was struggling badly. The result: a quick 2 run homer and CoCo has to come in – in a big hurry – and nearly loses the game.

      I’ve said the same thing for (at least) 3 days in a row: use Owings more !
      Dusty is so inflexible about his use of Owings. I like it that he uses him for extra inning situations, where Owings is 3-0. But other than that, Owings only gets used for garbage time, which is why he hasn’t pitched since May 7th. Then he’ll come in very rusty and walk a few guys, and Dusty won’t want to use him again. If Owings were used more often, he’d be the perfect guy for those 9th inning non-save situations. He does not get scared, and, after the Big 3, he is the best pitcher in our bullpen.

  2. This is a good problem to have, or at least it’s a sign of how well the starting pitchers are doing.

    It nearly cost us ball games last nite and today. Last nite of course a rusty Herrera gives up 3 hits and only retires 1 batter in the 9th. And today our rusty relievers give up 2 runs in the 8th.

    Based on my review of pitches on GameDay (i.e., limited information), the rusty guys were bad but not terrible today. Lincoln just gave up an infield hit and a walk to Braun. You can’t blame him much for the walk to Braun, but every pitch being a fastball off the outside corner didn’t seem like a good strategy. Either you walk him or he extends his arms and homers.

    Then Herrera looked good against Fielder but is regressing toward his career norm against RHed hitters. He’s just a loogy, use him that way.

    Fisher was disappointing. In his case I got to hear Marty get grumpy on the radio. He wild pitches in a run in the 8th, and lucks out in the 9th as Kottaras slips rounding 3rd. According to Jeff B., Kottaras easily scores if he doesn’t slip, he’d already been waved in. In any case, walking Kottaras on 4 pitches and then giving up 2 consecutive line drives is not good pitching.

  3. PS Dusty has used Cordero in some non-save situations, like with a 4 run 9th inning lead against the Cards or the Cubs. Sometimes that’s OK, if CoCo needs the work. But if D. developed confidence in someone to use in 9th inning non-save (but ahead) situations, then he could go to CoCo less.

    • PS Dusty has used Cordero in some non-save situations, like with a 4 run 9th inning lead against the Cards or the Cubs. Sometimes that’s OK, if CoCo needs the work. But if D. developed confidence in someone to use in 9th inning non-save (but ahead) situations, then he could go to CoCo less.

      Yes, or even used Masset (or someone else) as a backup closer instead of using Cordero 3 days in a row. Saves ONLY go to Cordero. Another of the reasons why I favor guys like Volquez and Thompson going to the back of the bullpen for some 2nd half depth.

  4. Maybe it is time to send a pitcher out and bring up another hitter. Let Fisher get some innings at AAA to get sharp again and have him ready in case they hit a bad stretch. Bring up Corky Miller, who is hitting .320+, which will allow Hanigan or Hernandez to be used as a pinch hitter, or in a double switch when the other doesn’t start.

    If the bullpen gets overused for a period bring Fisher or Ondrusek back

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