I am. I’m as passionate about this team as anyone, but I need a break from the ups and downs of following this frustrating franchise.

29 Responses

  1. Nathan in Muncie

    I hate to say it but this makes me almost ready for football season. They might as well skip the second half.

  2. Thomas Clifford

    This team has not, and will not, gel. Everyone has an opinion, but I’ve come to the following conclusion (actually not all that new, just venting): It’s time to blow this thing up. Fire the entire dugout management team…every last one of them. Keep only the following players; Volquez, Cueto, Harang, Cordero, Votto, Keppinger, Philips, Bako, Burton, Bruce. If this appears shocking, well, I did say, blow it up…don’t tinker – dismantle, and rebuild.

  3. Shawn

    Yeah, I don’t get the Bako. He’s had his six weeks of fame. Pull the plug.

  4. Shane

    Eeryone wants to blame the coaching/managing staff but how many coaches/managers have we been through in the last 5 or 6 years? Something isn’t right and it’s not just the coaching team

  5. daedalus

    I agree. I’m going up to a couple of the Cleveland games this weekend, then I think I’ll take my own break from this team. I invest too much time and emotion to this team to be treated like this! 😮

  6. Y-City Jim

    Shane, I don’t think anyone wanted the Reds to get rid of Chris Chambliss as hitting coach. Basically, he got fired for the slump of September of 2006.

    Nobody necessarily wanted them to get rid of Mackanin either. They wanted them to interview but unless there was a no-brainer candidate, stay with Mackanin. I guess since they got Dusty Baker it proves they have no brain.

    If Vern Ruhle had not contracted cancer I think most of us would be happy with him. In his short time he seemed to be making some headway.

    More than anything they should not make a change until they have someone BETTER in mind. Even if Chambliss had been a problem (he wasn’t) you don’t let him go only to hire a frickin’ Brooke Jacoby.

  7. Y-City Jim

    Question – Is Dusty Baker a clubhouse cancer? Has he harmed the attitude of this team?

  8. andrew

    Haven’t seen the Reds in person since moving to Clev last July. Will be attending at least two of the games this weekend. Disappointed there’ll be no EV. Maybe Sunday’s game will go 17 innings, and Dusty gives him 40 (or 80) pitches.

  9. Mike

    I don’t get the feeling that Dusty’s attitude (whatever that is) has had any effect at all on this listless team. I think he was brought in as a prominent baseball guy be the Reds first non-white manager. He certainly wasn’t brought in to work with the Reds promising youngsters (will Patterson ever be gone?)

  10. Y-City Jim

    Dusty is not the Reds first non-white manager. That was Tony Perez.

    They didn’t seem as listless under Mackinin when he lead them to a 41-39 record.

  11. Glenn

    I’ve disagreed many times with many moves and non moves that Dusty has made, but I’m sick of playing musical chairs with managers. This team needs some continuity in leadership.

    The Reds change managers and general managers like some folks change socks.

    Thomas, I agree with you, this team is not going to gel. I don’t necessarily beleive that’s Dusty’s fault. Krivsky provided him with the players. I’m ready to get rid of some players but I still think there’s a core of players that puts this team on the rise in years to come. Unfortunately, its not going to be this year.
    Rest easy Mike, by this time next year Patterson will be a distant (but still bad) memory.

  12. Mark in CC

    Dusty might be a good manger of a men (I am starting to sound like George Grand) but managing the game doesn’t seem to be a strong suit.

    The fact that “Warning Track” Patterson continues to start boggles my mind.

    Dusty’s comment this morning that he has to find a way to get EE, Keppinger and Hairston in the line-up at the same time shows this. Doesn’t Hairston play center and Patterson go somewhere else? Lord have mercy!

    By the way how many big league managers wear a little straggly beard? Tooth pick, goatee, and sweatbands. What a pro.

    When do the Buckeyes play there first football game?

    Blow it up and keep everyone above but Bako.

  13. mike

    there have be ups?
    when were they? 1999?

  14. preach

    Just out of curiosity, how many runs do you think this offense could generate off Bronson Arroyo over the course of six innings?

  15. Relient k Car

    well preach considering he is a crappy pitcher i would say 2 or 3…. if we’re lucky

  16. Phill

    The city of Cincinnati would not be able to take a full on blown up rebuilding phase. Within three weeks the fans would be booing these kids off the field every night which I’m sure would do GREAT for their morale.

    It’s not coaching that’s the problem. and who seriously cares if Paul Bako is catching? Is he hitting like he started? Nope but he’s an equal to David Ross. Oh no they play Bako over Ross. The fact is those two guys can do something that Valentin can’t and that is handle the young pitchers. I’m not sure but I don’t think a new hitting coach will magically make the team hit with RISP.Patterson will not be getting starts once the Reds are done with the AL. Bruce will go back to center and Griffey will play right. Will he get spot starts? Yea. Pinch hits? probably. You’ll just have to get over it.

    Here’s my question…How is it that Corey Patterson can strike out as little as he does yet rarely get a hit. I mean if you think about it it’s rather insane.

    One last tidbit I saw the other day. Guess who was playing CF for the White Sox…..DeWayne Wise. heh.

  17. Shane

    “How is it that Corey Patterson can strike out as little as he does yet rarely get a hit.”

    Yes! I was thinking that just the other night! How often can anyone hit a ball right at someone? You would think the law of averages are accurate at all then he’s going to go on a 50 game hitting streak anytime now, {sarcasm on} I bet thats what ol dusty is counting on [sarcasm off]

  18. mhopp

    I agree that it is not all the manager(s) fault BUT Dusty Baker has made some God awful, irrational moves that have cost this team about 7-8 games. And that is not including putting a player in that is hitting below .200!!! And lead off at that?!? WTH kind of crap is that!? How can you say it’s not at least mostly Dusty’s fault?

    Who cares if he’s black, green, blue or even red? Dusty’s record does show wins but with teams that have more money than the Reds. Players are not going to play their best under management that continuously make decisions that are not rational and don’t make sense. My last thought is that usually one play can NOT ruin an entire team but ONE manager can definitely ruin an entire team. The change needs to come from the top then down. I say fire Dusty Baker, eat the money and bring Rick Sweet up from AAA, he just won his 1300th game recently and has been with the team for a while. He would bring passion to the game and already knows many of the young players

  19. Mr. Redlegs

    Baker has cost this team 7-8 games out of 81?!?! You must be kidding. You believe that and you believe the Bengals are a playoff team.

    A manager doesn’t impact 8-9 games a season. It’s the players. Not the coaches. Not the manager. The players.

    When you have your two most important players, guys who eat up one-third of your payroll, and they don’t do what they are paid to do in the middle of the order, and you have a pretty young offense built around them, you’re going to lose games.

    It’s all pretty simple.

    Too many of you want to blame Baker for everything from gas prices to global warming. Hint: McGraw, Weaver and LaRussa couldn’t make this team something it’s not. Why do you keep thinking otherwise?

    It’s the players.

  20. Y-City Jim

    Here’s my question…How is it that Corey Patterson can strike out as little as he does yet rarely get a hit. I mean if you think about it it’s rather insane.

    Because he is simply making contact rather than trying to drive the ball.

  21. brublejr

    Really looking at everything, there is no 1 or 2 things that will improve this team in the short term. Some things that could move the Reds in the right direction include:

    1. Fire Dick Pole and hire Mario Soto in his place. I have not been impressed with what he has done, but I am very impressed with Soto (EV, Cueto).

    2. Waive Corey Patterson. Walt will have to tell Toothpick that this is what is going to happen.

    3. Trade or cut bad attitudes. I am not in the clubhouse, so don’t really know who are good and bad, but for the lack of leadership there has to be bad personalities in the clubhouse.

    4. As much as I hate to say it, keep Toothpick to at least give some stability to the managers position. Mhopp, the Reds already tried to bring up a minor league manager with the qualities of Sweet and it didn’t work (Miley). I met Miley and thought he would do a great job, but never had a chance and now he is coaching the Yankee’s AAA team with great results, yet again.

    5. Walt has to make his mark this July. The team has all the makings from previous GM’s with very mixed results. He needs to bring his type of players and coaches into Cincy because what he did in the Lou was very impressive. The only players I see as “untouchable” is EV, Cueto, Votto, Bruce, and Thompson. I wouldn’t really want to get rid of guys like Harang and Phillips but hey when things need to change they need to change. I look at Billy Beane and see what he has done in Oakland, giving away his “big talent” and get the best out of the situation.

    These are just my opinions, but it has been frustrating for some time watching this team underachive year after year.

  22. Legend

    The team will finish this year as they did last. The schedule for the first month of the season and this month were nasty.

  23. Glenn

    When EE comes back, Patterson heads back to the bench. Keppinger moves back to short, Hairston heads to center or back to the bench and Patterson should go back to being the first left handed pinch hitter of the bench. That is unless Valentin beats him out on that also.

  24. Glenn

    BTW, I’m not sure that there are any players with bad attitudes on the roster. At times they do look lackadasical. Whatever the case is these players are just not gelling together as a team.

  25. Glenn

    Trading Phillips and placing EE on the untouchable list? Does that make any sense?