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Game Thread: Reds at Dodgers – 2008.05.20

Matt Belisle takes on Chad Billingsley. Let’s hope Belisle can get the Reds back on track with a good start tonight.

Discuss it here.

75 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds at Dodgers – 2008.05.20

  1. Griffey is starting to see the ball well, i bet he breaks is home-run drought really soon.

  2. “Strike three” to Philips missed by about half a foot. Gameday confirmed it.

  3. It’s going to be another one of those nights where a 2-0 lead in the 2nd is insurmountable. Let’s hope the final score is 13-0 instead of 2-0 so Belisle gets put on a bus to Louisville tomorrow.

  4. I havent given up on Bailey, I’ve given up on his attitude … if only one person squawked about it .. I would blow it off, but when every media guy, scout, or personnel guy who runs across him all say the same things, it tends to lend credence to his lable. Can he change? Yes. Does he want to? Doesnt seem to so far … remains to be seen. Until we see it … Im not buying into it.

  5. “Let’s hope the final score is 13-0 instead of 2-0 so Belisle gets put on a bus to Louisville tomorrow.”

    You know, Belisle isn’t actually pitching all that badly tonight. The second inning was at least partially due to cheap hits and bad fielding, and otherwise he’s been fine. Maybe we should hope that Belisle’s finally coming around to be the #5 starter we hoped he would be.

  6. Everything I’ve heard this year from anyone not named Hal McCoy is that Bailey went down to AAA and began working enthusiastically to address the issues the Reds wanted him to work on. The whole attitude thing is completely overblown, in my opinion. None of Bailey’s managers have ever said anything like that; they’ve only praised him.

    And I think he’s made pretty good strides so far this year as far as working on his shortcomings. I just can’t figure out why everyone wants to give up on him. He’s only 21, and he’s getting better all the time.

  7. We can agree to disagree on Bailey … Hal mentioned two sources in his story … a scout and a front office man, both said the same thing. Reading magazines during a game he was suppose to to be charting, and looking over all disinterested when he has pitched the last 3 times out. What some may view as over blown, others see it as an example of what they view him doing in between starts, when he is pitching, and how acts during interviews. He did well in his first few starts but he has regressed to his old output. Poor control, & lack of concentration. Is he bored? Maybe … but so what, you dont see Bruce out there sloughing off. He is dominating and Bailey needs to follow his example.

  8. Interesting to look at Bailey and Philip Hughes, who have gone from being the next two great pitchers to widely disavowed by their own fans. Actually, Steve Philips thinks we can get Hughes for Jared Burton and Matt Belisle.

  9. Yeah, Steve Phillips is an idiot. I’d make that trade in a heartbeat. Actually, I thought he said Burton and Affeldt.

    As for Bailey, I saw that report about reading magazines. The report was that he was reading a magazine between innings. There are no pitches to chart between innings. And “looking disinterested”? What’s that? That’s the same crap that people have always said about Adam Dunn and Andruw Jones and any number of other players. It’s garbage, in my opinion.

    I guarantee there are 29 other teams that would like to have Bailey.

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I just can’t understand why everyone is so down on a 21 year old kid who is improving.

  10. Hal McCoy is a hack. He hasn’t been right about anything in ten years, at least. Time for him to retire.

  11. You must not watch him pitch .. I have MiLB extra innings and have caught most of his starts. At the start of the year, I was very impressed with his demeanor on the mound. He attacked hitters and the strikezone. Over the last few starts, you see him not get a call from an ump, or give up a hit, and he loses concentration … starts nibbling at corners, and shows no competitiveness. THAT is what is meant by “looking disinterested.” And that is not improving to me. Its regression to old habits that got him sent down in favor of Fogg in the first place.

    Like I said, I havent given up on his talent … its his attitude that has worn on me. If and until he returns to the form he showed early on, that stigma is going to stick with him like glue. Right now he is more valuable to us as trade bait for an establish ML arm than as a prospect. Only he can make himself invaluable to us like Bruce is doing.

  12. Farney strikes out. End of game. Goodbye 6 game winning streak, hello 2 game losing streak. Why did I even bother to stay up?

  13. Ross is just horrible on defense. He has dropped about 25 throws to the plate the last two years. They did miss an opportunity for a double play as Votto SHOULD have stepped on first before throwing to Ross, except Ross probably wouldn’t have tried to tag him anyway.

    As for Bailey, I kind of agree with Ron in that his attitude is a bit disconcerting. This isn’t just a Hal McCoy thing. Definitely don’t want to trade him though, but would like for him to show more maturity. Bruce needs to be up NOW.

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