Below, I mentioned that I hope the Reds would keep new manager Dusty Baker on a short leash where his young pitchers are concerned. It didn’t take long to dash those hopes. From today’s press conference announcing Baker as manager:

Q: Will there be “Homer rules” or anything to avoid a Mark Prior/Kerry Wood debacle?
A: Krivsky said no. He trusts Dusty. Dusty believed it was a little overblown.


13 Responses

  1. Y-City Jim

    I think Dusty is a BS artist and management is buying every bit of it.

  2. doug

    I think management might just be that stupid that they don’t know the difference.

  3. Chris W.

    Under what grounds does a fan have to abandon the team he has pulled for for 28 years and find a new team?

    Is this grounds to bandwagon over to a new team? I’m in severe depression.

  4. DevilsAdvocate

    Come on. Of course Dusty thinks it was overblown! If he thought he was responsible for what happened to those guys, he wouldn’t in good conscience be looking for a job anywhere in baseball. It’s human nature to rationalize (to himself) that he could not have prevented that catastrophe, he did not overly contribute to it, whatever.

    I would have hoped that Krivsky could at least step back and be an independent observer, make a judgment for himself. But “He trusts Dusty”? There’s just no way you can look at the record and not be at all concerned. It’s one thing to hire Dusty; it’s quite another to give him free rein.

    I just can’t believe how this story is evolving. It just gets worse.

  5. ChicagoRedsFan

    “In Dusty We Trusty”

    I remember seeing those signs all over Wrigleyville when Baker was hired by the Cubs – that didn’t go to well.

  6. Y-City Jim

    Maybe opt for the Indians. I love Cleveland fans! The are freakin’ maniacs!!!!

    I have been a Reds fan since 1970 and will be always. Nevertheless, GO TRIBE!!!

  7. Mike

    Same here, I have been a Reds fan since the early 70’s and the treatment of Dunn and the hiring of Baker are really testing my loyalty to the Reds. At the end of the day, I will always be a Reds fan, I cannot imagine a baseball season not following the Reds.

  8. Matt Stiers

    UC loses to Louisville, Dutsy is hired, and the Bengals are once again the bungals, anyone else been this depressed in one weekend in Cincinnati?

  9. Y-City Jim

    So who is going to comprise Baker’s coaching staff?

  10. willy

    mebeb theyll sign la russa as his bench coach
    and narron as the hitting coach…

    i sorta like baker
    you guys are dawging what happened in chicago
    he had a great career in san fran.

  11. Brandon

    There has to be some sort of mutual respect between a GM and the manager hires–giving Dusty Homer rules wouldn’t be the best start to such a key relationship.

    The debate as to whether Baker was the right man for the job is a legitimate one. Aside from that however, once the job is his, you can’t come in and say “we’re going to severly limit your discretion on pitch counts.” And even if you do say that, you wouldn’t admit it to the public so as to insult the new hire and validate the suspicions of all the skeptics.

    Are there any other MLB managers out there that have to deal with known pitcher restraints?

  12. cameron

    I watched the web site video and didn’t see that question. Also, isn’t there already limits on the pitchers? They will continue the limits and bring them along slowly. I love this site for Reds news but I think everyone is making more of this than they should.

  13. DevilsAdvocate

    Anyone who works in the Oakland A’s or Boston Red Sox or New York Yankee organizations, including and especially the field managers, will tell you that they “have to deal with” known pitcher restraints. Those are the most immediate and public examples that spring to mind.

    The Reds have been careful with their pitchers over the past four years or so, to their great credit. They have had limits on their pitchers, as noted. But according to Rosecrans’ report, they just said in the press conference today that Dusty will not be subject to limitation. Am I worried about that? You’re gd right, I am.

    And am I worried that in all his 14 years as a manager, just two ‘young’ players (Rich Aurilia and Aramis Ramirez) have developed into regulars under his watch while all the rest have fizzled out? Yeah, I admit that worries me.

    Giving your employees rules of conduct isn’t a sign of disrespect, it’s a sign of basic competence. The Reds hired Baker, and they trust him. Fine. I wouldn’t.