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Game Thread: Reds at Brewers — 2007.08.18

Elizardo Ramirez returns to the big league club tonight to make the start against the Brewers, who suddenly find themselves in second place. The Reds, on the other hand, are only 9 games out of first. That’s how bad the National League Central is this year.

Question: why aren’t Elizardo and Matt Belisle on the big-league roster full-time, operating out of the bullpen? Am I crazy to think that either of them are better than the Victor Santoses and Gary Majewskis of the world?

Discuss the game here. The Brew Crew are struggling, so it’s a good opportunity to win a series on the road.

21 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds at Brewers — 2007.08.18

  1. Call me crazy, but I still think Majewski is better than he’s shown in Cincinnati, and is doing poorly due to equal parts bad luck and poor mental approach. I think it’s more than fair to say that Elizardo deserves to be way above Santos on the depth chart, assuming his arm is okay. The Reds agree, as it seems that Santos was the guy to be sent down to make room for Ramirez.

    I really like EZ; he deserves better than he got from Narron and the organization over the past year-plus. I wish the Reds had a solid plan for anyone in their farm system. Maybe that’s more of a topic for another time.

  2. Cincinnati Reds

    Hamilton, age-26, cf
    Keppinger, age-27, ss
    Griffey Jr., age-37, rf
    Phillips, age-26, 2b
    Dunn, age-27, lf
    Hatteberg, age-37, 1b
    Valentín, age-31, c
    Encarnacíon, age-24, 3b
    Ramirez, age-24, p

  3. As a 23 year old last season, over half of EZ’s starts were “quality starts” (10 of 19). He has shown that he is very capable – he just has to become more consistent.

    I’m rooting for him.

  4. Elizardo was very consistent up until maybe his 15th start last year, and then he just absolutely self-destructed. Narron used him in a relief outing the day before his next start and the results at that point were predictable. Hope his he’s recovered from the elbow tendinitis he’s had since then.

    Looks solid tonight. 91 on the fastball, 81 on the change, and 75-77 on the rare curve.

  5. Hamilton came so close to a great catch . . . but ends up a homer. 3-0 after 3.

  6. A young pitcher was inconsistent? The Reds act like they were surprised by that.

    I agree that EZ has earned a better treatment than he’s gotten. We can only hope that he will earn his opportunity to stay on the roster. Early in this game, the returns aren’t promising.

  7. What in the world was Encarnacíon doing there? That is not his ball to catch, halfway between the pitcher’s mound and the first-base line. He almost ran over Hatteberg and caused a disaster – someone should talk to him.

  8. Another dumb decision by Mackanin involving Stanton. With two out, Bellhorn pinch-hits for Elizardo even though he’s only thrown 65 pitches in 5 innings. He had also retired 7 in a row and except for the one mistake that barely cleared the wall in left-center, he threw very well.

    And now it looks like Stanton will be coming in for the bottom of the sicth. Unless Elizardo is hurt, this is another poor bullpen management decision.

  9. At least Bellhorn walked. But Vargas hasn’t been doing himself any faovrs anyway. Hamilton will bat with the bases full & 2 out, off the situational lefty Shouse coming into the game. In 56 AB off lefties this year, Hamilton is at .232 avg. and a .639 OPS.

  10. Wow, what a terrible strike call on a pitch way outside. Hamilton in a hole . . . and K swinging.

    Reds have had 12 baserunners in 6 innings. 1 run to show for it.

  11. Brewers TV announcers: “Stanton still effective against lefties.” Me: long laugh.

  12. Guardado pitched an inning and gave up 2 runs. And his ERA went down.

    Stanton’s ERA has now pushed right up against the edge of 6.00 . And yet he’s still on pace to appear in over 70 games.

  13. 8-4 final. This game got thrown away the moment Mackanin pinch-hit for Elizardo.

    On the plus side, a quick efficient outing for Majewski, in a situation before the game was entirely out of reach.

    Just two more weeks until roster expansion. Think the Reds will do the same as what I remember them doing last year, only calling up about three players? Will Votto get added to the 40-man at long last?

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