It’s an afternoon affair in Cincinnati today, as the Reds attempt to take 3 of 4 from the first-place Brew Crew. Rookie left-hander Bobby Livingston takes Homer Bailey’s start again today; let’s hope he’s as successful as he’s been the last couple of times he’s toed the rubber.

Dave Bush is pitching for Milwaukee. Hey, if you don’t know anything about Milwaukee, listen in on this conversation between two academics as they discuss the city:

Wayne Campbell: So, do you come to Milwaukee often?

Alice Cooper: Well, I’m a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers began visiting here in the late 16th century.

Pete: Hey, isn’t “Milwaukee” an Indian name?

Alice Cooper: Yes, Pete, it is. In fact , it’s pronounced “mill-e-wah-que” which is Algonquin for “the good land.”

Wayne Campbell: I was not aware of that.

Alice Cooper: I think one of the most interesting things about Milwaukee is that it’s the only American city to elect three Socialist mayors.

Wayne Campbell: Does this guy know how to party or what?

Enjoy the game, and discuss the game here.

UPDATE — For what it’s worth, here’s something else to discuss:

It appears that future Hall of Famer Ken Griffey Jr. will not be leaving the Cincinnati Reds in the near future.

Several major league scouts say the team is not offering Griffey in any trade talks, and if Reds GM Wayne Krivsky is trying to deal Griffey by the July 31 deadline, he hasn’t asked Griffey or his agent, Brian Goldberg, for permission.

Not surprising, but interesting nonetheless. I couldn’t imagine the Reds would try to trade Griffey as long as he’s chasing 600 homers. This team is terrible, so they have to hang on to marketable commodities.

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68 Responses

  1. RagTag

    Reds lineup:

    Hatteberg 1b
    Freel cf
    Junior rf
    BP 2b
    Redleg Nation’s favorite player lf
    Keppinger ss
    Edwin! 3b
    Valentin c
    Livingston p

  2. RagTag

    Brewers lineup:

    Weeks 2B
    Hardy SS
    Braun 3B
    Hall CF
    Mench LF
    Hart RF
    Tony “Not Prince Fielder” Graffanino 1B
    Miller C
    Bush P

  3. Randy

    A Wayne’s World reference? The 90s called, they want their blog back.

  4. Sultan of Swaff

    Pretty heady stuff for Braun to be batting third this early in his young career. I fondly remember another third baseman who used to do the same.

  5. GregD

    Marty & Pete on the pre-game show said that Lopez had a broken bone in his cheek and doctors were yet to determine whether he needed surgery. If he doesn’t, he goes home today.

  6. GregD

    Also, they briefly mentioned that Juan Castro was being activated for Lopez’s spot. I’m having trouble recalling Castro’s injury, but I thought he was likely to be out the rest of the season. Marty & Pete did not discuss Castro at all (other than to say he was activated). So I don’t know if he can play the field or PH only.

  7. Randy

    I think Castro was activated for emergency purposes only. Don’t know what that means, but that’s what was announced.

    It took someone getting hit in the face to get Edwin back in the lineup every day, probably. Unless Krivsky can pick up someone else off the waiver wire (like Lopez) for Mackanin to insert into the lineup in EE’s place.

  8. RagTag

    Homer for Junior! Party time! Excellent!

  9. Justin

    Homer for Griffey.
    Castro has a elbow issue and is mulling Tommy John Surgery

  10. RagTag

    Marty just said “there’s no way” the Reds will pick up the option on Adam Dunn after the season.


  11. DevilsAdvocate

    Marty has said that very consistently, about Dunn’s option. We all know where he stands, but hopefully Krivsky is residing in reality where it’s not so cut and dry.

  12. DevilsAdvocate

    It was announced quite quickly after Castro’s injury that his season was over with a tear in his UCL. But I guess he figured it didn’t matter if he put off surgery to see if it felt better, and now it feels a little better. His UCL is still torn, but I gather that they hardly ever snap entirely, and it’s just the degree of the tear that necessitates the Tommy John surgery.

  13. Justin

    A bit wild in the 4th. not sure what Valinetin is calling for.

  14. Justin

    Eventful inning could have been a lot worse then what it wound up being.

  15. james

    a 2 out hit with men in scoring position.. that didn’t look like a reds player.

  16. renbutler

    Now flying out on the first pitch with a RISP, that’s a Reds player.

  17. DevilsAdvocate

    Livingston only at 75 pitches through 6. He’s due up second here. I’d let him bat – it’s not like the Reds gain much with a pinch-hitter anyway.

  18. RagTag

    Livingston’s batting average is now .500, and his OPS is 1000. Impressive. Can he play shortstop?

  19. DevilsAdvocate

    Wow. Livingston doesn’t even come out for the seventh, even though he batted in the last half-inning. Against the bottom of the order, I’d have tried to get a few more outs of him.

    But Saarloos is on.

  20. RagTag

    Saarloos blows the lead on the first batter he faces, so now Livingston can’t get the win. That pisses me off.

    Saarloos has been about a million times worse than I ever imagined he would be. Just terrible.

  21. DevilsAdvocate

    Wow. Saarloos has nothing lately. Thom sez he’s allowed 10 straight batters to reach base over his last outings.

  22. RagTag

    And now a four-pitch walk to the next batter.

    The crowd is booing, justifiably.

  23. RagTag

    Did Thom just say Saarloos had allowed 10 straight batters to reach? That’s unreal!

  24. renbutler

    How do you keep sending the same terrible relievers out there game after game after game and expect a different result?

  25. RagTag

    You beat me to it, DA.

    That stat just blows my mind.

  26. DevilsAdvocate

    Enough of that. Here comes more relief.

    “I don’t know what is that caffeine does for you, but without it? Your head caves in.”

  27. RagTag

    I love how Thom keeps telling us what Livingston is doing in the dugout as this nonsense is happening. I’d hate to be a starting pitcher on this team. I’d kill a reliever or two.

  28. james

    When is Bray going to come up? I want Bray, Mcbeth, gosling, burton, and weathers as my bullpen

  29. RagTag

    Coffey has sucked at times, but he has been incredibly unlucky. Like that hit by Hardy there.

  30. DevilsAdvocate

    Coffey x-capes. Can’t count on that happening every time – .355-hitting Ryan Braun grounds into a doubleplay with the bases loaded.

    I’ll say this, though, that for a so-called 1-pitch pitcher, Coffey gets his share and more of GIDP’s.

    Tied 4-all. Can the Reds overcome their bullpen? We certainly have been asking that question an awful lot.

  31. DevilsAdvocate

    You can have 1 or 2 more relievers, james, to get to an 11 or 12-man pitching staff. Does Coffey or Coutlangus make your team?

  32. RagTag

    Both Coffey and Coutlangus make mine.

    But then, I’m not as down on Coffey as most are.

  33. james

    I like both Coffey and Coutlangus. My whole point with the bullpen is that this team has 2 months to see how the younger guys perform. I’ve had a lot of hope for Bray and Mcbeth.

    I also believe the lineup can get younger with Votto. The Reds have 2 months to see what youth they have to build off of for next year.

  34. DevilsAdvocate

    I agree, I really liked what little we saw of McBeth last month. And I sure hope that they can make room for Votto by trading Conine and/or Hatteberg.

  35. james

    Is there any word on Hamilton’s health?

  36. RagTag

    Hamilton is supposed to start swinging a bat next week, I think.

  37. DevilsAdvocate

    I believe Hamilton is set to be re-examined tomorrow, to check the status of his wrist. Still has the soft cast on, last I heard.

  38. james

    If the Reds do trade Dunn, do you think that maybe Jay Bruce would get a chance up in the Majors for the final couple of months?

  39. DevilsAdvocate

    Well that was ugly. Strikeout-throwout doubleplay to end the Reds’ 8th.

  40. DevilsAdvocate

    I think they’ve promoted Jay Bruce as far as he’s going in 2007. Opinions are still somewhat mixed about whether he might be sent back to Chattanooga as was the original plan, now that Dewayne Wise is back off the DL.

  41. james

    That’s what i figured. I think they hope Hamilton comes back and gets the at-bats that he needs.
    What is your line-up and pitching rotation next year?

  42. Jared

    Looks like Coutlangus got out of a jam there. Hopefully the bats will make it mean something.

  43. renbutler

    Gameday just said that Coutlangus got the single to lead off bottom 9. Surely it was a pinch hitter, no?

  44. Bill

    Bruce shoiuldn’t be sent anywhere, hits OPS is 960.

    Tell me Gametracker is wrong and Coutlangus isn’t hitting in the bottom of the 9th

  45. DevilsAdvocate

    Speed doesn’t slump…Hopper hustles his way into scoring position to lead off the ninth. Excellent shape for Hatteberg.

  46. Jared

    Holy hell, Norris Hopper gets himself in scoring position representing the tying run? We gotta win this one.

  47. james

    Tied up. Marty has some excitement in his voice today. It’s nice

  48. renbutler

    Gameday is going whacky.

    Did Hopper bat for Coutlangus and get a double?

  49. renbutler

    Never mind, they finally fixed it.

    Let’s go, Brandon…

  50. DevilsAdvocate

    Well, at least they tied it up. Think Stanton will get the call again? Who’s fresh in the bullpen?

  51. DevilsAdvocate

    It’s Burton.

    Left in the ‘pen are Gosling and Stanton. Weathers threw two innings about 16 hours ago, so I don’t know if they’ll be able to put him back out there today except as a last resort.

  52. renbutler

    Burton 1-2-3.

    Dunn leads off with a double. RISP, no outs, you MUST win this NOW. No excuses.

  53. DevilsAdvocate

    That was a fun game, after all is said and done. Frustrating that Saarloos still can’t get a single soul out, and too bad that Livingston doesn’t have anything to show for yet another solid effort. But a fine ending thanks to LLM.

    Burton is 2-1 now, and won both those games in this series, didn’t he? In fact, Valentín gave him the win both times.

    Bring on the Cubs.

  54. Matt B.

    Saarloos…please just go.

    Ick. Nice series win for the Reds. Let’s hope they can keep it up.

  55. Abner

    Mackanin’s 12-8 start is the best mark through 20 games for any of the Reds’ last seven managers

    Wow. What does that say about this franchise for the last couple years…