Reds lose late lead? Really? That’s never happened before.

Oh well, the Reds take on the Indians again this afternoon, and it should be a good one. Aaron Harang will go for Cincinnati, while Cleveland will counter with C.C. Sabathia. Hopefully, Harang can pitch a complete game.

Discuss it here.

90 Responses

  1. Schrockstar

    I didn’t realize Harang hurled 2 CGs in his last 5 starts – how about a CGSO like CC had earlier this week?

    How about Junior starting in the All-Star game!?! Can’t wait for the Classic next month…

  2. Randy

    All of that sounds great to me, Schrock!

    Do we have lineups yet?

  3. RagTag

    Sounds great to me, too.

    Here are the lineups, first for the Indians:

    Sizemore CF
    Blake 3B
    Martinez C
    Garko 1B
    Nixon RF
    Peralta SS
    Dellucci LF
    Barfield 2B
    Sabathia P

  4. RagTag

    For our beloved — win or lose — Redlegs:

    Hopper RF (WHY?????)
    Phillips 2B
    Dunn LF
    Conine 1B
    Encarnacion 3B
    Hamilton CF
    Gonzo SS
    Ross C
    Harang P

    No Junior…I’m sure there are a lot of fans at the stadium who aren’t happy about that.

  5. RagTag

    I had tickets to be at the stadium, but couldn’t make it. I’m going to be on the road, so I’ll be listening to Marty.

    Have fun here…it’d still be nice to win two of three from the Indians.

  6. Chad

    I’m at my nephew’s birthday party. He and his dad (my brother) are Braves fans.

    I have to get out of here.

  7. Y-City Jim

    The bullpen gave up five runs over six innings. If Majewski does his job it only gives up one over four innings. Dick Pole needs to have a heart-to-heart with Gary and tell him to get his head out of his butt.

  8. Y-City Jim

    Griffey is the lone reason most come to a Reds game and Narron the Idiot pencils him out. Let me add that he is the hottest bat on the roster.

  9. DevilsAdvocate

    And, Griffey sitting means that Hamilton gets a start against a lefthander.

  10. DevilsAdvocate

    Edwin’s defense is suddenly dynamite.

  11. james

    Does anyone know if Homer is starting again this week?

  12. ChicagoRedsFan

    Harang: 5 shut out innings so far but already 94 pitches! That’s the downside of being a strikeout pitcher, he has 8 Ks so far…

  13. Randy

    Ouch, 94 pitches through five. That’s a lot…though Harang is better able to cope with a big pitch count, obviously.

  14. abner

    Wow. This game is on cruise control. We need to find a way to get something going!

    Small Ball Time. 😎

  15. Randy

    Well, I guess it’s 104 pitches thru 6 now…fairly efficient inning for Harang there.

  16. Ben

    Harang is hitting for himself in the bottom of the 6th. Of course, what Harang does kinda resembles hitting, but I’m not sure that we can call it that.

  17. Randy

    Two quick outs in the sixth. The Reds really are on cruise control, abner.

  18. DevilsAdvocate

    I’m officially worried about the bullpen’s effect on Narron’s decisionmaking and hence the health of the starters. He’s at 104 pitches but he bats anyway to leadoff the bottom of the sixth.

  19. Randy

    DA — Don’t you think Harang is capable of a heavier workload? I’m much less concerned about his pitch count than I would be with a younger pitcher. Harang has demonstrated durability, and he’s a little older.

    That said, I don’t want to see him at 120+ pitches on a consistent basis.

  20. ChicagoRedsFan

    Harang is still every bit of an AL pitcher hitting wise!

  21. Randy

    I meant to say, though, DA, that I agree with your overall point about the bullpen’s crappiness and it’s effect on Narron, strategy-wise. He’s scared to death to go to the pen, with good reason.

  22. ChicagoRedsFan

    Harang is for better a worse become a strikeout pitcher. 120+ pitches will unfortunately be the norm if he goes beyond the 7th inning.

  23. ChicagoRedsFan

    “better or worse*” I meant

  24. Randy

    2 k’s in the 7th. Harang is cruising.

    115 pitches.

    I’d send him back out for the 8th inning.

  25. DevilsAdvocate

    Absolutely Harang has demonstrated his ability to be a workhorse – I agree, Randy. But this is becoming typical for Narron – with Arroyo, with Belisle, with Bailey even . . .

    Harang’s frame and strain-free delivery make him an ideal guy to withstand the pitchcount. I’m guess I’m less worried about injury for him, and more about him tiring by the end of the year.

  26. ChicagoRedsFan

    Hopefully the Reds won’t waste Harang’s performance today…smart of Narron to rest the Reds hottest hitter, Junior, against one of the leagues top pitchers…absolutely brilliant

  27. DevilsAdvocate

    I doubt this will be the norm for Harang, though – meaning, a typical 7+ inning start will run into 120+ pitches. His control helps him there. However, the Indians are quite the disciplined bunch of hitters – best in the majors in that regard.

  28. Randy

    I agree with all of that DA. And I’m much more concerned about the effect on Arroyo and Belisle (and Homer, obviously). Narron is clearly afraid to go to the pen.

    I’ve been wondering whether Narron already screwed up Arroyo’s season by letting him throw so many pitches in that start a couple of weeks ago.

  29. Ben

    Reds go quietly in the 7th (2 Ks, and a popup), and we’re onto the 8th.

  30. Randy

    I’m surprised that Stanton is in. I guess he has two good outings, and Narron has confidence in him again.

  31. DevilsAdvocate

    Yeah, Arroyo had that game against Colorado where he threw 44 pitches to get just two outs in the 7th inning (129 total). Before that game he had been excellent. He then went 117 and 120 in his next two starts, and has been a disaster since.

  32. ChicagoRedsFan

    I hope Narron doesn’t pull a Dusty Baker..a la Prior and Wood…

  33. DevilsAdvocate

    Did Marty just say that Kyle Lohse was up in the bullpen?

  34. DevilsAdvocate

    Coming into today Stanton had a .373 BABIP, and so far they’re 2-3 today. I hope that means he’s been unlucky and will hit a hot streak soon.

    Of course, I’ve said the same thing about Majewski and Milton, and no dice there.

  35. DevilsAdvocate

    Good thing Sabathia is the lead runner. He couldn’t score there from second on the single.

  36. DevilsAdvocate

    Thank goodness. Stanton bends and then somehow doesn’t break. That was a weird play on the uncaught pop-up – I thought for sure that meant the next pitch was going to be a batting-practice fastball hit 450′.

  37. Randy

    I thought the same thing, DA.

    Sabathia just went over 100 pitches. 8th inning.

  38. DevilsAdvocate

    This has been quite the game. 0-0 entering the ninth? That’s something else for a game in Great American.

  39. DevilsAdvocate

    Ha ha, Randy – we’ve been Reds-trained to be pessimists. 😕

  40. ChicagoRedsFan

    Marty just was talking about Pokey Reese…what did happen to him? He goes AWOL from the Marlins in spring training last year for personal reasons and haven’t heard anything about him since…

  41. DevilsAdvocate

    I might have left Stanton in the game, given the tie. At least to see how he fared – 2 of the three batters due up in the ninth are lefties. For all his other struggles, Stanton has only given up one homerun this year.

  42. ChicagoRedsFan

    Weathers, aka Michelin Man/Pillsbury Dough Boy, to the rescue!

  43. DevilsAdvocate

    Good question, Chicago – maybe Pokey read the tealeaves, saw the youth in FLA, and realized it wasn’t going to get any better than when he was with the RedSox. And I can’t imagine teams were banging on his front door trying to get him to come back.

  44. ChicagoRedsFan

    Pokey’s only 34, I’d find it hard to believe he couldn’t catch on somewhere at least in a reserve role.

  45. GodlyCynic

    Narron called another sac bunt. Seriously, he’s now just trying to make me angry with him.

  46. DevilsAdvocate

    Castro chosen to pinch-hit instead of Griffey. But he singles.

    Hopper is just about the only Reds’ position player I would ever ask to bunt.

  47. ChicagoRedsFan

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Reese was nicknamed “Pokey” by his grandmother for his chubby infant complexion, who intended to call him “Porky”, but Pokey stuck.”

    gotta love Wikipeia!

  48. ChicagoRedsFan

    I think Marty has said “dandy” at least 20 times today…

  49. DevilsAdvocate

    Wikipedia – anyone in the world can write about anything they want, so you know you’re getting the best possible information.

  50. ChicagoRedsFan

    oh man, Majewski’s in the game…oh well

  51. DevilsAdvocate

    Scoreless tie heading to extras. Cripes, here comes Majewski.

  52. ChicagoRedsFan

    whether or not the Porky story is true, it’s pretty funny…Porky Reese, lol

  53. ChicagoRedsFan

    Brantley sounded really excited when announcing Majewski was coming into the game…

  54. ChicagoRedsFan

    Another great contribution from Majewski – what would we do without him?!

    Are they actually paying the guy for this???

  55. GodlyCynic

    Remember that time a Reds reliever came into a close game and just overpowered the opposing hitters?

  56. DevilsAdvocate

    Woohoo! Three cheers for lefty pickoff moves!

  57. DevilsAdvocate

    This is a game where the Reds have nothing to lose. But if they win, nice shot in the arm.

  58. DevilsAdvocate

    Rafael Betancourt is in.


  59. Jimmy James

    Man, Betancourt does work slowly, doesn’t he?

  60. Jimmy James

    Struck out The Natural. On to the 11th.

  61. DevilsAdvocate

    McBeth is in!

    “Let every man be master of his time
    Till seven at night.”

  62. ChicagoRedsFan

    I would have done a double switch here. Brought in Junior for Hopper and had Junior bat ninth in the pitcher’s slot.

  63. DevilsAdvocate

    Easy inning for the 2nd-newest Red, 1-2-3.

    Hopefully we see Griffey in the bottom of the 11th.

  64. DevilsAdvocate

    It’s weird, Chicago – Narron seems to always do the doubleswitch early, but then doesn’t use the reliever for very long. But here in extras where it’s becoming more urgent to get multiple innings out of pitchers, it’s unused.

  65. GodlyCynic

    After the single, Grande’s first comment is “Ross is a pretty good bunter.” It’s a bloody epidemic.

  66. DevilsAdvocate

    Reds are down to Burton and Santos in the bullpen, and Santos pitched a couple innings last night. I hate to say it, but unless it’s a runner on third, it’s scary to have to pinch-hit for McBeth.

  67. james

    The crowds reaction to Griffey was classic. For some reason i feel there is some fire in this team and fans really wanting a win streak.

  68. DevilsAdvocate

    Here we go – if the Reds don’t win it now, this game is lost.

  69. GodlyCynic

    Time to bring in the human walk machine, Burton, to throw some pitches no one can hit.

  70. DevilsAdvocate

    Whoa – I didn’t realize Hatteberg had been doubleswitched in. So McBeth still in the game. Narron’s OK in my book after all!

    “Screw your courage to the sticking-place,
    And we’ll not fail.”

  71. ChicagoRedsFan

    I didn’t realize it was a double switch either

  72. DevilsAdvocate

    A passed ball? Couldn’t have picked a worse time.

  73. DevilsAdvocate

    AWESOME! Hamilton with the throw! Wow!

  74. ChicagoRedsFan

    Still 0-0…they’re taking the Battle of Ohio very seriously!

  75. DevilsAdvocate

    And that was a pinch-runner with decent speed that was thrown out, too. Wow wow wow.

  76. DevilsAdvocate

    What are the odds now that Edwin or Hamilton gets a walk-off hit to end it?

  77. DevilsAdvocate

    This game is aligning for a Reds win in heroic fashion. Moeller gets a double? Encarnación is walked to bring up Hamilton in a stage-setting situation? Come on.

  78. ChicagoRedsFan

    Moeller’s not used to being on the bases

  79. DevilsAdvocate

    Ha, you’re right about that. Up to the ice-cold Gonzalez now with two out, though as cold as he is, Ross is colder. 1 for his last 27 is Ross, I heard Brantley say earlier.

  80. DevilsAdvocate

    It’s a win! Gonzalez 1st-pitch walkoff single and Moeller flashes the speed to score.

    This one feels pretty good.

  81. DevilsAdvocate

    Can’t wait to see a highlight reel clip of that throw from Hamilton.

    McBeth gets his first major-league win. Good for him.

  82. ChicagoRedsFan

    At least they showed some life today against tough pitching and a great hitting team.

  83. DevilsAdvocate

    Huh. Sowers got sent back to AAA by the Indians after last night’s game.