Matt Belisle against Greg Maddux tonight in San Diego tonight. I’m not sure if I’ll watch, or just wait for Ron Bergundy to give us the highlights on the 11:00 news. Actually, I guess Champ Kind would be giving us the highlights, but anyway…whammy!

(Kudos to C. Trent for suggesting the theme for the evening.)

Anyway, it’s time to get to work if the Reds hope to salvage anything from this road trip. Discuss it here.

(Also, congratulations to Junior for winning Player of the Week honors.)

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150 Responses

  1. Y-City Jim

    Exorcise the West Coast demons!!!

  2. CeeKeR

    The real question of the night: Is it even worth watching the Reds with this late a start time for us east coasters?

  3. Chad

    I’m going to try to watch, but we’ll see how long I can make it.

    The way the team is playing, they’re making it much easier to just go to bed rather than fighting to stay awake.

  4. Jimmy James

    For the Reds:

    Freel 3B
    Hatteberg 1B
    Junior RF
    Phillips 2B
    Dunn LF
    Hamilton CF
    Gonzalez SS
    Valentin C
    Belisle P

    At least Gonzo is back in the 7th spot where he belongs.

  5. Jimmy James

    For the Pads:

    Marcus G 2B
    Cruz LF
    Brian G RF
    Gonzalez 1B
    Greene SS
    Cameron CF
    Bard C
    Kouzmanoff 3B
    Maddux P

    Looking forward to seeing ol’ Mike Cameron again.

  6. Chad

    Yeah, not a bad lineup, I guess, but what has Phillips ever done to justify hitting him cleanup? Other than being right-handed, of course.

  7. CeeKeR

    Who else CAN bat cleanup for the Reds? I don’t mind the lineup tonight, though I still prefer Ross catching (not sure why at this point, but I do…)

  8. Randy

    I’m very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.

  9. Chad

    I dunno, anyone, I guess. Dunn.

    I’m not necessarily saying BP shouldn’t be hitting 4th, I just don’t know what he’s ever done to justify it.

  10. The Mad Hatter

    That lineup shows the need for EE to straighten himself out. No right handed power. Then again it’s been that way since Kearns left town. Even being in Texas I don’t think I’ll watch this game. Might set the alarm and try to catch the 8th, it seems like it’s the only inning that matters

  11. CeeKeR

    Yeah, I don’t think that BP is the ideal #4 hitter, but with the current Reds team, I just don’t know who would be. The only options appear to be BP, Griffey (who seems to hate batting fourth), and/or Dunn…unless you are Narron and think that our “power” first basemen Conine or Hatteberg should be hitting cleanup… I’d say it’s a coin flip between Dunn and BP.

  12. Jimmy James

    And we’re under way….Freel fouls out.

  13. Chad

    Doesn’t look like much of a crowd. Chris should have gone to this game. Lots of good seats still available.

  14. Jimmy James

    Two outs. Here’s Junior.

    And he grounds out. Not much of a first inning so far.

  15. Randy

    Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention. I’ve just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you, to stop what you’re doing and listen. Cannonball.

  16. Chad

    Marcus Giles with a leadoff double. Crud.

  17. John

    “Here’s Jose Cruz, Jr., the son of Jose Cruz, Sr.”

    – George Grande.

  18. Chad

    3-0 Padres, and we’re still in the first inning.

    I love the West Coast.

  19. CeeKeR

    well, looks like another night where we don’t need to stay up… That didn’t take long did it? ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

  20. Y-City Jim

    Better update your resume, Narron. Your days are numbered.

  21. Y-City Jim

    Bellisle is throwing crap tonight.

  22. DevilsAdvocate

    Losing . . . is a disease.
    As contagious . . . as polio . . .

  23. Y-City Jim

    Burton will be getting his chance soon unless Bellisle figures out how to hit a corner.

  24. DevilsAdvocate

    as contagious . . . as syphilis . . .


  25. Y-City Jim

    How many no-hitters does Maddux have?

  26. CeeKeR

    perfect game. perfect game. perfect game.

    Can we jinx it now? ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  27. Y-City Jim

    I like the Maddux philosophy. Movement is the most important thing.

  28. DevilsAdvocate

    . . . as contagious . . . as bubonic plague.

    Maddux perfect through 4, has thrown just 39 pitches.

  29. DevilsAdvocate

    . . . attacking one,
    but infecting all.

    Maddux perfect through 5, just 46 pitches.

  30. Y-City Jim

    I could go to bed right now and this game would be over before I fall asleep.

    Evidence of how lousy of a catcher LLM is.

  31. DevilsAdvocate

    Huh. Maddux has apparently never even carried a no-hitter beyond seven innings.

  32. Y-City Jim

    Well if Bellisle is going to stink it might as well be on a night when Maddux is going to throw a perfecto against the Reds.

  33. Y-City Jim

    When Bard gets a hit you are really having a bad night.

  34. DevilsAdvocate

    This game will never be over. They (SD) just keep spraying hits everywhere.

  35. Chad

    What a complete and utter disaster this team is.

  36. DevilsAdvocate

    7-0. This is horrific in a different way than all the bullpen meltdowns. But that doesn’t make it much more tolerable.

  37. Y-City Jim

    Maddux could throw three pitch innings the rest of the way and it will take another two hours the way Bellisle is serving batting practice tonight.

    Votto with two more hits tonight. Moeller homered twice. Bats win 5-4. Maybe Fox Sport Ohio should bump the Reds for the Bats.

  38. Y-City Jim

    Chad…It takes a heck of a manager to screw up a team this bad.

    Speaking of bad managing I think they need to insert Castro in an attempt to break up the perfect game.

  39. Chris

    Gonzalez did NOT run that ball out. Will he take the field in the 6th?

  40. Jimmy James

    At least our shortstop doesn’t look like a girl.

  41. Jimmy James

    Chris is right, he didn’t run that one out. But he’s one of Narron’s darlings.

  42. DevilsAdvocate

    Ah, but curable.

    Eventually, anyway, I hope. A hit! LLM double!

  43. Chad

    You’re right, Jim. Narron is a special sort.

    And Chris, I’m not sure this is rock bottom.

  44. Y-City Jim

    Well the utterly complete embarrassment is over. The Padres will have to settle with just partially embarrassing the Reds tonight.

  45. Chris

    Things that have sucked tonight:
    1. Belisle
    2. But still nobody warming up in the pen (Narron apparently sleeping).
    3. Perfect game through 5+.
    4. Missed cutoff men (2x).
    5. Wild pitch strikeouts.
    6. Poor fielding.
    7. Maddux already has 3 sac bunts – on three pitches (nice work, Belisle).
    8. Overall sleepwalking.

    I’ve resisted the “fire Narron” stuff for a long time, but this club looks like it’s already quit.

    9. We finally get 2 hits, then Freel hits into a DP.

  46. Randy

    Ha…a double play to end the inning. Perfect.

  47. Y-City Jim

    but you can touch rock bottom from here.

  48. Chris

    At least my softball team won tonight.

  49. Chad

    Wonder what Castellini is thinking right now?

  50. Jimmy James

    Chris, what time can your softball team be at Petco Park tomorrow?

  51. Y-City Jim

    I hate to bale Narron out but he did have Burton throwing the inning before. Of course, maybe he was just getting some work in on the side.

  52. Y-City Jim

    Hopefully Castellini is think of potential managerial replacements.

  53. Chad

    Jeff Keppinger looks older than Greg Oden.

  54. Chris

    Narron didn’t want to burn a pinch hitter, apparently. Sheesh.

  55. Jimmy James

    Col. Angus! You old carpetbagger!

  56. Chad

    For at least a decade, I’ve been saying that Greg Maddux is my favorite player who never played for the Reds. He’s the one guy I always wanted to see in a Cincinnati uniform.

    Just so much fun to watch in his prime.

  57. DevilsAdvocate

    Burton issues a walk! Shocking. He’s only walked 5 of the 8 hitters he’s faced in his major league career.

  58. Jimmy James

    What’s that smoke I see billowing from under Narron? Is his seat hot?

  59. Jimmy James

    Five out of eight! Wow.

    And yet Salmon gets sent down to AAA.

  60. Y-City Jim

    The Padres are up 7-0 with Maddux pitching and they are arguing? Plus he ran in the grass infield.

  61. Randy


    Krivsky is on this road trip. Why isn’t he doing anything?

  62. Jimmy James

    Burton has the worst goatee I’ve ever seen.

  63. Chad

    Glad you didn’t go to this game, Chris?

  64. Chris

    For those of you watching the Padres telecast, we just got a nice explanation of the change in the baseline rule.

    Does anyone else get the Padres games on satellite or

  65. Y-City Jim

    Because it is fruitless to do anything until Narron is gone. There is no team he couldn’t mismanage.

  66. Y-City Jim

    Jimmy…The Reds are the ugliest groomed team in baseball. They need John Edwards’ $400 a haircut barber.

  67. DevilsAdvocate

    I’m watching the broadcast, Chris. Channel 4 San Diego!

  68. Jimmy James

    Anyone else expecting to see Wilton Guerrero or DT Cromer come to the plate soon for the Reds? Maybe Bill Selby?

  69. Y-City Jim

    Interesting comments by Welch at the moments of how the players don’t seem to get upset by losing.

  70. Chad

    I have the Reds broadcast on Extra Innings (DirecTV).

  71. DevilsAdvocate

    Phillips extends his hitting streak on an 0-2 pitch. There’s a plus.

  72. Y-City Jim

    George Grande currently defending Narron.

  73. Jimmy James

    Grande is defending Narron right now.

  74. Jimmy James

    You beat me to the punch, Jim! ๐Ÿ™‚

  75. Chris

    Grande would defend Charlie Manson if he was wearing a Reds uniform.

  76. Y-City Jim

    Welch seems to be indicating that Griffey needs to step up to be the leader. If it hasn’t happened yet it ain’t going to happen.

  77. Jimmy James

    Grande is an idiot. He started to tell us how Kevin Mitchell was a good leader on the 1999 team.

  78. Chris

    The Padres Channel 4 guys are usually really entertaining. They’re a little “reverent” tonight b/c Maddux is putting on such a display, but most of the time it’s 3 hours of Caddyshack and Simpsons jokes.

  79. Chris

    Weathers pitching the 7th inning of a 7-0 game.

  80. Chad

    Jared Burton is no Tim Layana.

    And here comes Weathers. He’s no Nasty Boy…well, not in the Cincinnati tradition, anyway.

  81. Y-City Jim

    Actually it wasn’t Mitchell on that team. It was Greg Vaughn who basically would kill you if you didn’t give your best. George has his years mixed up. Big surprise there!

  82. DevilsAdvocate

    David Weathers’ stats look great. So why does he still make me feel queasy whenever I see him take the mound?

  83. DevilsAdvocate

    The Channel 4 team spends all their time on Simpsons jokes? I’m on board.

  84. Y-City Jim

    It worked for me when I tried it.

  85. Chris

    Narron looks like he’s going to a funeral.

  86. Y-City Jim

    Simpsons 400th episode on Sunday.

  87. Y-City Jim

    That’s Narron’s natural look. I think he has been dead for years.

    The scary thing about that Mitchell urban legend is that it is considered undetermined.

  88. Jimmy James

    I hope he IS going to a funeral, the funeral at the end of his managerial career.

  89. Chris

    Nice catch by Jr. Cruz. He’s been a pretty sweet pickup for them, at a bargain price.

  90. Chris

    Reds go down without a freakin’ fight. 6 pitch inning for Maddux.

    Unreal. Rock bottom.

  91. Y-City Jim

    When is the last time Maddux made an error?

  92. DevilsAdvocate

    Maddux is going to throw a complete game on less than 90 pitches.

  93. Chris

    Oh goody. Castro and Stanton it to do some good stuff.

  94. Chad

    Juan Castro is in. Let the comeback begin.

  95. Chad

    Yeah, I remember that, Chris.

    Hey, Stanton gets an out to start the inning. Now Maddux is going to hit for himself.

  96. Y-City Jim

    One can only hope. I hope they understand someone from the outside is going to have to come in.

  97. Y-City Jim

    All that is left is for Maddux to homer.

  98. Chad

    Does anyone have an explanation for this burning question:

    Why am I still watching this game?

  99. Jimmy James

    You are as hopelessly insane as we are, Chad.

  100. Y-City Jim

    Obviously the relievers do well tonight. The game isn’t on the line. The problem isn’t their arms. It’s their heads.

  101. Y-City Jim

    I have no idea. I should have gone to bed after that crap.

  102. DevilsAdvocate

    Stanton’s ERA just 7.50 now!

    Narron in the dugout tonight looks a lot like that creepy weird guy in The Office, Creed.

  103. Y-City Jim

    They’re all studs in non-pressure stituations. The way we’re going there should be plenty of those.

  104. DevilsAdvocate

    You’re still watching because this barely qualifies as a late game, with the speed at which Maddux has mowed ’em down. We only just passed two hours.

  105. Chris

    Castro and Freel just had the most pathetic pair of doubles EVER.

  106. Y-City Jim

    Any bets Maddux gets out of this unscathed?

  107. Chad

    Bring up Votto, Bruce, and Bailey.

    No, not really. But the current group of Reds is terrible.

  108. Chris

    Absolutely. Double-play, coming right up.

  109. Jimmy James

    There’s one out, Jim. Maddux might do it.

  110. Chris

    See where Jr just hit that foul ball?
    Those are my seats – I’ll be there tomorrow night.

  111. Chris

    I’m surprised Castro didn’t fall down, or get hit by lightning on the way to home plate.

  112. Y-City Jim

    Maddux must be losing it. Four balls in the air this inning.

  113. Jimmy James

    That’s fairly uncharitable of the Reds. They should’ve let the old guy get his shutout. He deserved it.

  114. Y-City Jim

    Maddux is proof that you can create your own good luck.

  115. Jimmy James

    88 pitches. One to go, I’d say.

  116. Chad

    Classic Maddux performance. He hasn’t pitched like this in a while.

  117. Jimmy James

    Maddux still looks weird in that SD uniform, though.

  118. Y-City Jim

    Game over, man!

    Off to bed where I should have gone an hour ago.

  119. Jimmy James

    My just went out with two strikes. What did BP do?

  120. DevilsAdvocate

    Now, I want you to imagine, you’re on a ship at sea.

    Gently . . . rocking.

    Gently . . . rocking.

    Gently . . . rocking.

  121. Chris

    It’s been fun to see Piazza, and now Maddux on a regular basis here in town. There’s something to be said for hauling in HOFers with a little left in the tank.

    I’ll be there tomorrow, and maybe Wednesday. Wells has been pitching poorly, and hopefully Harang can right the ship. He’s the only guy with a win since May 6.

  122. Chad

    Another classic west coast road trip. Happens every time.

  123. Jimmy James

    Good luck, Chris. Try not to throw up upon seeing this mess in person.

  124. Jimmy James

    Good night, all. Try to get some sleep.

  125. Michael

    On a good note, the bullpen pitched 3 shutout innings!