Can Matt Belisle stem the bleeding tonight? I hope so. His ERA has risen to 4.43 since his outstanding start, so Belisle is due for another good outing, I would guess.

For the Pirates, Tom Gorzelanny will take the hill. He’s 3-0 with a 2.05 ERA, so maybe he’s due for a bad outing.

Yes, it’s all wishful thinking and speculation. I’ll take what I can get. But hey, it’s a day for celebration: Frenchy is gone!

Discuss tonight’s game, and everything else surrounding the Reds, here.

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115 Responses

  1. Matt B.

    Is Salmon with the club yet? I’d like to see this kid.

  2. RagTag

    Wow, busy game thread tonight. Lots to do on a Ssturday night, I guess…lots that doesn’t involve the two worst teams in the league.

    Well, I’m here and watching!

  3. RagTag

    George Grande is a moron. On the play that Dunn scored, it was obvious that the catcher tagged Belisle before throwing to second, but Grande is just making stuff up, saying the ball hit Belisle in fair territory.

  4. DevilsAdvocate

    Wow. I tuned in just to see a wacky play. … and another one. squeeze bunt by Belisle where he didn’t run…does Narron bench Belisle now? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ The squeeze was successful, only because Ross was safe at second due to Jack Wilson’s decision to rely on the “neighborhood out” call at second.

    By the way, Adam Dunn now has 5 SB on the season without having been caught.

  5. RagTag

    Wow, Hamilton almost hit that one out.

    4-0, after that crazy play. Very, very nice.

  6. DevilsAdvocate

    Josh Hamilton cannot be stopped. RBI double off the top of the CF wall.

    4-0 Reds. The PIT pitcher seems to have been rattled by the confusing defensive play earlier. Now he’s balked in a run, 5-0.

  7. RagTag

    Yeah, Dunn is tied for the team lead in SBs. He’s doing something right. ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. DevilsAdvocate

    I hope Belisle isn’t benched, or distracted by his role in that big scoring inning, he’s looking amazingly sharp early on here. Through 4 perfect innings, 5 K and only 45 pitches. That’s phenomenal to have that many strikeouts with that few pitches.

  9. RagTag

    Belisle looked just fine in the bottom of the fifth. Safe to say he’s returned to his form of earlier in the year. Wonder how many pitches he’s thrown through 5?

  10. DevilsAdvocate

    There’s 5 perfect innings for Belisle, 56 pitches.

  11. RagTag

    Thanks for the pitch count, DA. Wow.

  12. Chad

    That has to be a record for Belisle for fewest pitches through five innings.

  13. Chad

    I’d like to see Dunn get started on a roll right now.

  14. Chad

    No perfect game, but I’m not complaining.

    Well, I’m not complaining until the bullpen blows the game in about an hour.

  15. Justin

    True true, at least the pitch count is good.

  16. Y-City Jim

    Good job by Matt to end the inning. I’d like to see if he can toss a complete one tonight.

  17. RagTag

    Where are we on pitch count after six?

  18. Chad

    A complete game might be our only chance, the way the bullpen is going lately.

  19. Y-City Jim

    It’s refreshing to see a few runs being scored again. Be nice to do it a little more consistently.

  20. Chad

    Freel is fast as anyone, but he’s such a terrible baserunner.

  21. Y-City Jim

    It’s been an interesting draft day.

  22. Justin

    bad baserunning….bad luck call. oh well.

  23. Justin

    Draft day is long this year. my Jets are not impressive today. But my hometown Bills are.

  24. Y-City Jim

    I think we can blame ESPN to some extent for the length. Everything has to be an event with them.

    Nice DP!

  25. RagTag

    I’m with Chad from his post earlier. I can’t get excited about the draft. It’s not much in the way of drama for me. Who cares?

  26. DevilsAdvocate

    Is there anywhere that keeps track of pickoffs? I’ve seen them counted for pitchers but not for baserunners. I’d be interested to know how many times Freel has been picked off.

  27. Chad

    I was about to type that Belisle wasn’t showing any ill effects from being hit by that ball, but then LaRoche just drilled one into the gap.

  28. Justin

    That is so very true. But each team takes all 15 mins it seems.

  29. Justin

    Matt looks sharp tonite. Harang should carry on and Arroyo that should help the Bull Pen

  30. Y-City Jim

    Matt seems to be getting balls up in the zone. Sure beats having Brandon Claussen.

  31. DevilsAdvocate

    Belisle still has thrown just 79 pitches through 7. Nearly Maddux-esque.

  32. Chad

    Justin has a point. Our bullpen will look a lot better if our starters can pitch complete games!

  33. Chad

    Jeff Conine is turning in the Scott Hatteberg Memorial Nice Season By An Old Guy this year.

    Then again, it isn’t even May yet.

  34. RagTag

    Yeah, Conine’s been better than I expected. Whether he can keep it up or not remains to be seen.

  35. Y-City Jim

    Yes, it will help if our relievers are not leading the league in appearances.

  36. Y-City Jim

    This would be huge if Eddie could deliver.

  37. Y-City Jim

    1B will be vacant for Votto in the near future.

  38. Justin

    I know. Conine and SH are 1 year contracts.

  39. Justin

    EE delivers on a good at bat.
    Ross who has 2 hits, doubling his season total tonite.

  40. Y-City Jim

    A good at bat would be huge for Ross as well.

  41. Justin

    sharp DP at least there was only 1 out otherwise he would have had 2 triple plays turned against him.

  42. DevilsAdvocate

    Pirates have finally decided to swing away at anything close, with mixed results. single, then doubleplay, then flyout. 3 pitch inning. Awesome. 82 pitches.

  43. Y-City Jim

    Channel Surfing Report

    School of Rock on TNT

  44. Y-City Jim

    Glad this is close to being over. I’m still feeling the effects of chaperoning after prom last night.

  45. RagTag

    School of Rock. Good movie.

    How’s Votto doing now at Louisville? I know he got off to a bad start. I’m going to have to go check his stats.

  46. Chad

    Bless your heart, Jim. You’re a better man than I.

  47. RagTag

    Votto’s average is only .217, and his OPS is 766…

    …but his OBP is .382, which is encouraging. He’ll come around.

  48. Y-City Jim

    Hey! Your children are always worth it. My wife and I have been blessed.

  49. DevilsAdvocate

    Belisle walks to lead off. They’re just trying to tire him out by making him run the bases. ๐Ÿ™‚

  50. Y-City Jim

    Votto’s probably still waiting for the Earth to heat up!


  51. Chad

    Aaah, your kids. Yeah, that’s a good reason to go through that. How many do you have?

    We’ve got two, and we’ve been blessed, as well.

  52. Jimmy James

    Wow, 6 runs! Is this some kind of record?

  53. Y-City Jim

    Two as well. A senior and a junior.

  54. Chad

    I don’t want to jinx him, but a grand slam would add yet another chapter to the Josh Hamilton saga.

  55. Y-City Jim

    A slam would make a nice chapter for the Josh Hamilton saga.

  56. Chad

    A senior and a junior. I don’t know how you do it.

    Mine are younger, and I dread the teenage/high school years.

  57. Y-City Jim

    OK, Chad! That’s weird. More so if it happens.

  58. Chad

    That is completely bizarre, Jim. ๐Ÿ˜†

  59. RagTag

    Okay, guys, you’re freaking me out. Is this the Twilight Zone?

  60. Y-City Jim

    They haven’t been bad at all. Both kids are involved with lots of extracurricular and take their academics seriously.

  61. Chad

    You are a lucky man, Jim.

    Well, you’re a Reds fan, but I’d still say you’re lucky.

  62. Justin

    Dunn has a good eye and yet takes too to many pitches

  63. Y-City Jim

    We’re luckier than Indians fans. I’ve seen three World Series championships in my lifetime. My buddy, a diehard Indians fan, has seen none.

  64. Chad

    The Pirate is irritating my wife.

    I think I agree with you, Justin. Dunn has a great eye, and I love all the walks (because the great hitters all take a lot of walks). But sometimes, he just seems to be TOO selective.

    That’s a fine line, I guess, and I’m not really qualified to tell him when he’s being too selective, I suppose.

  65. Chad

    True, same here…but the last ten years have felt decidedly un-lucky.

  66. RagTag

    Dunn struck out. I can’t believe it!

  67. Y-City Jim

    The best thing about the Parrot mascot is that his theme fits the Pirates. I hate the mascots that look like someone stuck a bicycle horn into a florescent spray painted Tribble’s rear end.

  68. Jimmy James

    Poor old Dunn couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. Just ask Marty.

  69. Chad

    Please close out this game, Belisle. A 7 run lead is not enough for this team!

  70. Y-City Jim

    Think the Parrot is trying to distract Bellisle?

  71. Y-City Jim

    Looks like the Parrot is trying to beat the traffic.

    Alright, Bellisle!!! Outstanding!!!

  72. Chad

    Wow, a complete game! Just what the doctor ordered.

  73. Jimmy James

    Awesome. Belisle is back!

    What’s his ERA now?

  74. Chad

    Belisle is 3-1 with a 3.45 ERA. I’ll take that. โ—

  75. Justin

    Harang is right where he was at last year and even Arroyo

  76. DevilsAdvocate

    91 pitch complete game, Belisle’s ERA is 3.45. Didn’t strike anyone out after the fourth inning.

  77. RagTag

    Man, I needed a win like that. Yeah, it was just the Pirates, but still…

    Now a win tomorrow means a series win for the good guys.

  78. DevilsAdvocate

    Just the Pirates, but a Pirates team that has had terrific starting pitching – which the Reds beat up on tonight – and a team that still has a record better than Cincinnati’s, good enough for 2nd place.

  79. RedsFanInMd

    *I want to go back to the Belisle bunt. I was watching on TV and the umpire clearly called Belisle out because the ball hit his foot and not because Paulino tagged him. My question is why wasn’t the ball then declared dead? Once it hit his foot the ball is dead and Dunn should not have been able to score and the runner should have had to go back to 1st. I taped the game and watched it again and the umpire immediately called him out because it hit his foot. The Pirate broadcasters were saying the same thing.

  80. Chris

    Are you sure, RedsFan? I need to check the replay on Tivo.

    The Pirate radio guys were all confused, but said Paulino tagged Belisle. They stayed w/ that story all night – the one guy actually said he could placed all the blame for the loss on Paulino. The color man was like, “uh, no share of the blame for Jack Wilson? He could’ve just tagged the runner to complete the double play, right?”

    ESPN has it as a successful sac bunt (2U).

  81. Chris

    To follow up on the Conine thread: I really ripped that signing, and have been completely wrong through 1/8 of the season. The power numbers, obviously, are what are surprising. If he slugs SLG .581 all season, I’ll buy Wayne Krivsky a dozen cheese coneys.

  82. Chris

    Just re-watched the play. There doesn’t appear to be any doubt that Paulino tagged him. Grande just made up that stuff about the ball hitting Belisle (“it hit his toe”) outside the box. I saw nothing like that on the video myself. More importantly, you’re absolutely right about the rule: Rule 7.08(f) says that when a runner is hit by a fair ball, he’s out and the ball is dead (“The ball is dead and no runner may score, nor runners advance, except runners forced to advance.”).

    The ump must’ve called Belisle out by tag. If he’d called him out by contact, Dunn and Ross would have been sent back to their original bases.

  83. Chad

    The ump definitely called Belisle out by tag. On the Reds television broadcast, they kept showing a replay where the ump pointed and mouthed “he tagged him” (or something to that effect) a couple of times.

    George Grande seemed confused, and just made up a story, but the slo mo replay showed what the ump called; it was very clear.

  84. Matt B.

    When is George Grande not confused…

  85. RedsFanInMd

    I went back and watched it and you guys are right. The ump immediately pointed down and I (and the Pirate TV announcers) thought he meant the ball hit his foot (it didn’t), but I think he was saying fair ball and then he was tagged. At least I can admit when I’m wrong ๐Ÿ˜€