Dayn Perry Rates the GMs on the Fox Sports site. Well, our guy wasn’t last. 🙂

What follows are the “GM Rankings” for MLB’s current crop of top executives. The rankings are, of course, highly subjective, and they’re based mostly on each GM’s tenure with his current team (although, for those GMs who have toiled elsewhere we’ll give minor consideration to their entire bodies of work).

28. Wayne Krivsky, Reds
On the job since … February 2006
Playoff appearances: 0

Krivsky hasn’t been in Cincy for very long, but he’s already done damage. In particular, the 2006 trade that sent Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez and Ryan Wagner to the Nationals in exchange for Bill Bray, Gary Majewski, Royce Clayton, Brandan Harris and Daryl Thompson was, from Cincy’s perspective, one of the worst trades of the decade. Like a lot of GMs whose teams toil in hitter-friendly parks, Krivsky acts out of desperation when trying to find pitching.

I guess Red’s fans aren’t the only ones who are less than impressed. Maybe, unbeknown to us, that his flurry of decent moves last year in the Feb. to April time frame was his modus operandi. Maybe he does his best work then and cruises the rest of the year. I wonder if he buys all his Christmas gifts the day before Christmas too.

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  1. dmcgee77

    Highly subjective is right. Let’s just wait and let wins and losses speak for themselves. The Reds DID improve their record over 2005 when we had the best offense in the league.
    We should continue to improve our W-L this year. And we may surprise.

  2. Tom

    Love your optimism, but note that we still had the best offense in the league last season, up until “The Trade”. You know the rest of the story. This team as it sits now will be lucky to finish 4th in the Central. We’ll have to make some moves to improve over last season. This team is worst than what we started with last season.

  3. Daedalus

    If Bowden hadn’t pulled off The Trade, he wouldn’t be ranked as high as 24.

    Here’s to hoping Bill Bray turns into Trevor Hoffman… 🙄

  4. Jay

    you mean, there are two GMs worse than Kriv???

  5. Sultan of Swaff

    I have to take issue with a few of these rankings. There’s no way you can rate Krivsky lower than Hendry for the Cubs, Littlefield for the Pirates, or whatever joker is running the Royals.

  6. Chris W

    Let’s see how the first two months of the season go. Obviously optimism is pretty low right now after the end of 2006.

    As one of the few who agreed with the trade when it happened, perhaps I’m just a blind optimist, hoping this will still work out.

  7. GregD

    Sultan – don’t disagree with your comments re: Hendry or Littlefield. The joker running the Royals was fired and replaced mid-year and they have this new guy ranked higher.

  8. al

    hendry might not have helped his team financially, but it’s not his money. If the cubs are willing to eat those salaries, he improved his team a lot more than kriv did this winter, for sure.

    maybe he’s done more to hurt the cubs in the past, but he helped them this offseason, where kriv hasn’t really done much of anything.

  9. David

    Oddly enough Phil Rogers lists his top guys on as 1) Terry Ryan, Minn., 2) John Schuerholz, Atlanta; Pat Gillick, Philadelphia; and Billy Beane, Oakland (three way tie), 5) Cashman NYY, 6) Walt Jockety, St. Louis 7) Dave Dombrowski, Detroit. However, he doesn’t rank every GM.

    Frankly, I’m surprised to see Cashman in both of the list’s top 5. I would think a bottomless pit of cash and no farm system save Phillip Hughes, Jose Tabata, and Eric Duncan, would detract from Cashman’s reputation, but I guess not.

    As for Krivsky, I take issue with Al’s opinion that Hendry has improved the Cubs while Krivsky has done nothing this offseason.

    It might not be Hendry’s money but you can think of him as trustee. Hendry has spent $294,550,000 this offseason. What new pieces did he get for it? Lilly, Marguis, DeRosa, Ward, and Soriano: those are four very average players and a very good Soriano. They are about to sign a beat up Cliff Floyd and attempt to deal Jones. Don’t stop there. Think about what he spent last season as well on guys like Farnsworth. How was their bullpen last season? And that Juan Pierre deal really worked out, huh?

    Meanwhile, Krivsky has made some odd moves (signing a lot of AAAA guys perhaps) but he also made a big move in signing Alex Gonzalez and maybe a better move in dumping Jason LaRue. Say what you want about Gonzalez, but he hit .255/.299/.397 with 9 HRs and 50 RBI and had a .985 fielding percentage – all decent numbers. Compare that to Julio Lugo (considered the best FA SS) .278/.341/.421 with 12 HRs and 37 RBI with a .953 fielding percentage. Granted Lugo played in about 30 fewer games (which is huge don’t get me wrong), but dollar for dollar which was the better signing? My money is on Gonzalez’s 3 year 14 mill deal instead of Lugo’s 4 year 36 mill deal.

  10. GodlyCynic

    I think having the current longest division-winning streak in baseball is good enough to get you a top-10 finish as a GM. Cashman may have the money, but it’s not like the Red Sox, Mets, and company don’t like to keep pace. You can’t argue that his success far outshines theirs. Jim Hendry will soon realize that spending a lot of money guarantees nothing.

  11. Chris

    That’s exactly the same point I was going to make. If you’re going to knock Hendry for doing nothing with a lot of resources, you at least have to acknowledge Cashman, for doing a lot with a lot.

  12. al

    David, since when is a .299 obp decent? since when is a sub .700 ops decent? those numbers are bad.

    i don’t know if you’re familiar with the stat WARP, a creation of BP which represents team Wins Above Replacement Player, calculated for each individual player. Let’s see how the reds and cubs did in the offseason with WARP:

    2006 WARP for new Reds:
    A-gon 2.4
    Stanton 2.4
    Conine .2
    Crosby .1
    Moeller -.3
    Total 4.8

    2006 WARP for ex-reds:
    Aurilia 4.5
    Sc.Sc. 1.9
    Larue 2.3
    Total 8.7

    2006 WARP for new cubs:

    soriano 8.7
    lilly 6.3
    derosa 4.5
    marquis 2.1
    floyd 1.8
    ward .2
    Total 23.6

    2006 WARP for ex-cubs
    pierre 4.9
    mabry .3
    Total 5.2

    i may have missed one or two minor deals but you get the idea. on paper, the cubs have added 18 wins above replacement, and the reds have lost 4 games or so. that’s where my comments were generally coming from.

    i know it’s just on paper, and that WARP doesn’t equal wins, but by some of the most respectable stats going, the cubs gained significant ground, and the reds backpedalled a little, or at best stood pat.

  13. dmcgee77

    I’m remaining optimistic. Krivsky’s being very conservative with the team’s money, which is fine with me, because it leaves him in a better buying situation in the spring, whereas many teams have already over-spent.
    We have so much more pitching depth than before, and our defense up the middle is much better with Gonzales over Lopez.
    Obviously, we’re looking for the offensive RF replacement for Kearns, but that could come from Hamilton. Or from a trade of one of our starting pitchers, if we end up with too much good pitching. Or if either Denorfia, Freel or Hopper turn into an ideal lead-off hitter who plays great defensive centerfield, then Griffey takes RF by default.
    Alot of power expectations will fall on Eddie Encarnacion’s shoulders. Votto’s not too far away either. Wouldn’t it be great to have a power hitting firstbaseman.
    I’m looking forward to seeing Brook Jacoby’s influence on the hitters, especially on Dunn. If only he could learn to adjust his swing with two strikes against him. Contact, contact, contact.

  14. GodlyCynic

    A power hitting first baseman? More powerful than Hal Morris? That’s crazy talk.

  15. David

    Couple of points of rebuttal… First, Perry didn’t have Cashman in the top five he was 11 so let me correct myself. Anyway, my point was that I wouldn’t consider any GM Cashman, Epstein, Minaya, Colletti, or Hendry included in the top five in their profession because they have practically unlimited resources. For me Terry Ryan, Billy Beane, Doug Melvin, and Larry Beinfest have to get bonus points for their efforts, simply because they have to work for what they have. Any fool with an open checkbook can make the deals Epstein, Cashman, and Hendry make. Just go over to Keith Law’s blog find out who are the “name” free agents and write a bunch of zeros.

    I don’t hold it against Cashman that he does “more with more” than does Hendry. I don’t think Hendry is very good at all. I’d actually rank Hendry close to the bottom. I just wouldn’t expect to see a guy like Epstein or Cashman in the top 10.

    Al, I am fairly up to speed with WARP and other Baseball Prospectus stats and info though I wouldn’t say I’m as up to speed as are you nor some of the other contributors. I find that PECOTA, BP and some others are really more for the fantasy baseball fan than they are practical for the regular everyday fan.

    I’m not going to kid myself. Baseball is an incredibly stats oriented sport. It dictates almost every move made. Yet, I bet if you look at the wins above replacement for a guy like Hatteberg, he far exceeded his worth. That is why I don’t put a lot of stock into it.

    Also, I don’t by into OPS, I think it’s a bunk stat and Christina Kahrl of BP wrote a great article as to why it is a bunk stat. Nevertheless, my comment was on Gonzalez’s overall performance. He was not SO far off of what Lugo’s was that we should go running for the hills, especially when you consider that we got him for half the price, and A-Gon is two years younger. I think that was a big signing for a small revenue club like Cincinnati.

  16. Tom

    Why should we care about how Gonzalez compares to Lugo? Let’s use Castro’s numbers as the point of comparison for Gonzalez, and then justify his $4M/yr. Explain to me how SS Gozalez/2B Phillips/OF Freel is $4M better than SS Phillips/2B Freel/OF Denorfia.

  17. al

    so theo epsein is a fantasy baseball fan now? You can say that you think stats are “bunk” all you want, but at this point in history, with the amount of real baseball people that have come out in support of things like baseball prospectus, it’s shortsighted to keep relying on the “for fantasy fans” line.

    David, you think gonzo was a big move for a small market team, and you could be right, that’s fine. I think he will improve our defense, and our pitchers, and he’s certainly got power potential.

    my point was just to say that by most statistical evaluations, the cubs added a lot more to their team this offseason than the reds did, hence hendry’s higher ranking.

  18. David

    Tom, I do think that a 29 yr old everyday SS who committed only 7 errors while turning 61 DPs in 111 games is an improvement. First, I’m not thrilled with Denorfia who is hit or miss. Freel plays better in limited time, and Phillips could be a very good SS but he is already a great 2B. Second, Lugo is the argument because Krivsky went out and got arguably the best SS available (w/ Lugo in the argument of course) in FA and paid him half of what Lugo made.

    Al, I mean no disrespect for people who spend a lot of time scanning the stat line or using BP, PECOTA, the fielding bible, etc. I prefaced my opinions by saying that stats dictate nearly every move made. And, I’m sure Epstein is a fantasy baseball fan. The point I’m making is that stats can be manipulated, they can be unreliable predictors, and they don’t include the human eliment such as personality, work ethic, coachability or other intangibles. Let me ask what it matters if a guy has a great line and eats it in the clutch or has 35 HRs but 25 came when the game was out of reach? In the words of our beloved manager “nothing kills a rally like a solo HR.” So I understand the necessity of stats, just don’t use them to beat down a GM who may look at more than just the box score when making moves.

    As I understood your point with Hendry, you said that Hendry had “improved his team a lot more than Kriv did.” That to me is something completely different with “the Cubs added a lot more to their team than the Reds did.” I would agree with the latter. But to quote GodlyCynic from above “Jim Hendry will soon realize that spending a lot of money guarantees nothing.” In other words there is a big difference between adding a lot and improving in my opinion.