08/14/2005

Couple Other Notes

According to Kevin Kelly’s Reds notebook

The Reds are now free to trade Ken Griffey Jr. if the team wishes, according to a radio report Saturday.

The report said the center fielder, who continues to be the focus of a trade rumor involving the White Sox, is believed to have cleared waivers.

Brian Goldberg, the Cincinnati-based agent for Griffey, said Saturday he still has not heard from the Reds regarding any potential trades.

Every mention of this deal that I’ve seen has the Reds getting a couple of prospects and having to pay a sizable portion of Junior’s salary for the rest of his contract. In essence, they’re paying to get rid of him. That makes no sense to me.

Also:

Relief pitcher Ben Weber, on the 15-day disabled list with a bulging disc in his neck since May 9, was returned from his rehabilitation assignment with Double-A Chattanooga on Saturday. The Reds then reinstated him from the DL and optioned him to Triple-A Louisville.

He’ll be a September callup.

I’ve been a Reds fan since the late ’60’s, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in ’84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in ’90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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  1. O’Brien needs to tell Ken Williams point blank that if he wants Griffey it is going to cost him prime pitching talent and fully taking the contract. End the conversation, by telling him if he is not prepared to do that then shut up and stop wasting my time.

  2. O’Brien needs to tell Ken Williams point blank that if he wants Griffey it is going to cost him prime pitching talent and fully taking the contract.

    Good luck there, nothing wrong with freeing up space on the payroll, nor is there nothing wrong with getting a true CF in return… a position that the Reds are going to need just as much as pitching sooner than later.

  3. I think there’s plenty wrong with making a trade just to “free up space on the payroll.” Especially given what Dan O’Brien has done with the money he has been handed.

  4. True, but IF the Reds are changing hands what is more attractive?

    A team with an aging CF with declining fielding numbers and HOF cache.

    Or a team that has payroll space to ink younger players?

    Of course this avoids the Dan O as GM conundrum that makes the trade a scary jaunt into the woods to find grandmothers house.

  5. A) You have to believe this team is changing hands.
    B) You have to believe this would clear payroll space, which would likely be eaten up by artibration eligible players (like Dunn).
    C) You have to believe, even if the payroll space is there, that it’ll be put into payroll next year after O’Brien’s disaster with this year’s payroll increase.
    D) You have to believe that the orgainzation believes that they can find someone who will do a better job than Jr of putting butts in the seats.

    I just don’t see it happening.

  6. D) You have to believe that the orgainzation believes that they can find someone who will do a better job than Jr of putting butts in the seats.

    I believe that the Reds need to find another mode of bringing butts in the seast than the “Franchise” player approach.

    It’s not a good approach IMO, winning trumps it by far.

    As for the rest I’m in teh wait and see mode.

    But 35 year old CF’s are not on my radar for a successful team.

  7. I’m not arguing the intelligence of their philosophy, but the fact is that this team does market certain players to bring in fans and Jr is one of them. Casey is another.

  8. Griffey sells tickets better than any other player on the roster. Dunn would have to challenge the HR record to generate any more excitement because Dunn doesn’t have the charisma that Griffey possesses. In fact, does Adam Dunn have any charisma, period? But that’s another issue.

    Scary point two of moving Griffey to another franchise is Wily Mo Pena in CF. Defensively, Wily Mo is clueless. He has absolutely no instincts for playing the outfield.

    In another season or two, Denorfia may be ready. He’s a fence banger and I’m sure, with Chambliss tutoring, that he can make the jump to this level. I’m tempted to go to Columbus in a couple weeks when Louisville is in town for two games to see what kind of ball player he is.

  9. Griffey sells tickets better than any other player on the roster.

    And yet the Reds never draw very good unless they are winning, never have never will.

    Franchise players are an anchor… they help keep a good team centered and they limit a bad teams mobility.

    Time to sail.

  10. Can the Reds still get good prospects in the deal now that we’ve passed the waiver deadline?

    The players received would either have to clear waivers, too, or not even be on the 40-man roster, right?

    Don’t you think that if they will trade Griffey that they should do it in the offseason?

  11. My butt would be in a seat evry night if they were winning.

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About Bill Lack

I've been a Reds fan since the late '60's, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in '84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in '90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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