From Reds.com:

The struggling Reds dismissed manager Dave Miley and replaced him with interim manager Jerry Narron on Tuesday, the latest and most significant in a long line of personnel shakeups in this ’05 season.

Pitching coach Don Gullett was also removed. He’ll be replaced through the end of the season by Minor League pitching coordinator Vern Ruhle.

Cincinnati Reds general manager Dan O’Brien will officially announce the personnel changes at a 3 p.m. ET press conference at Great American Ball Park.

Okay, Narron’s not a good choice, as he proved in Texas, but he’ll do on an interim basis. I hope Ruhle is more than interim; he has a very good reputation, I believe, as a pitching coach.

Either way, Miley is gone! He seemed like a nice guy, but he was in way over his head.

Here’s the big question: where does Dunn bat in tonight’s lineup? Sixth or third/fourth? This is your chance, Narron….

20 Responses

  1. Chris

    I’m very pleased with this move. Especially the Gullett firing. I don’t know why he’s been so ineffective, but it seems like he’s been riding a reputation for the last 10 years.

  2. Chad

    I agree. Gullett owes Pete Schourek, because he’s been riding on Schourek’s laurels for a decade.

    These are both good moves that might make the on-field product easier to watch. However, until Allen and O’Brien are gone, I’m afraid the future remains bleak.

  3. Brian Erts

    I won’t expect wholesale changes right away (lineup wise) but I expect some changes none the less…. and here I was working a big make a change post and I thought I had at least until Thursday.. oh well.

  4. Chris

    Okay, I had an enormous post with background an analysis of Narron and Ruhle. That post was lost.

    So here’s the readers’ digest version:
    Narron was handed an enormously-talented and well-paid lineup in Texas, which underperformed slightly. He was also handed a well-paid, but crappy pitching staff, which underperformed worse. Doug Davis seemed to develop under his watch.

    Ruhle coached the Astros pitchers, who did very, very well…until they moved into Enron, when they all melted down at once. Hampton, Wagner, Miller, and Lima Time all developed under his watch, and he seemed to get good performances out of journeymen. In Philly, he helped develop Randy Wolf, Vincente Padilla, and Brett Myers. He coached the 2003 Mets, and despite their pitcher-friendly ballpark, and signing Tom Glavine, they stunk. Glavine pitched pretty bad (for him); Leiter was okay; Jae Seo was better than expected; Traschel stunk.

    In Philly, his pitchers tended to be below average (bad) in both BB and Ks, but above average (good) in HR allowed. In Houston, they were at, or near the top in every category. In NY, they were near the bottom in everything.

    In sum, I see some promise in Ruhle. I see very little from Narron, the guy who gave Jason Romano his big league debut.

  5. Glenn

    Chad, As we all wished for Miley’s gone. Now take a deep breath and ice that bulging blood vessel in the side of your head. I’m just kidding.
    Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of the posts. I don’t think that Miley’s firing does much very quickly. This team needs a total makeover, managementwise. Owners down through to batboys – purge the losing ways.

  6. Glenn

    I almost forgot. Miley’s one thing, but the best thing that happened to today was Gullett being shown the door.

  7. Michael

    I’m just glad not to have to hear “well, you’re absolutely right Marty” or “no question about it…” anymore……

  8. Tyler

    :smile::smile::smile:
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    While I agree that this won’t do much in the short term, long term, it may help keep Dunn. I read at JD’s sight that Narron is a firey guy. Hopefully he makes the Reds at least competitive.

  9. Blue

    The question is where Dunn bats? Get real.

    Now that the Reds have made these decisions, at least one of which was unnecessary, its time to get rid of the beer softball league guys and put a team of baseball players together.

    Maybe it was Miley’s fault that these guys haven’t played hard. I hope they hire someone who will get up in the faces of this group of clowns.

    Maybe they should look at Billy Hatcher, veteran of the ’90 championship and first base coach for the D-Rays under Sweet Lou. Also served as bench coach and third base coach for D-Rays over the past 10 years. He must be pretty good if they kept him around. What other coach on that staff can say they’ve survived all 10 years of the team’s existence?

  10. Blue

    “While I agree that this won’t do much in the short term, long term, it may help keep Dunn.”

    :evil:To Hell with Adam Dunn!:evil:

    If he doesn’t want to be on our team, to Hell with him. –Adam Dunn, responding to news that Kenny Rogers had refused a trade to the Reds, Summer 2002.

  11. Glenn

    O’Brien and Gullett contributed a great deal to Miley’s demise. Most of the pitchers who have really hurt the Reds performance-wise this years were brought in under OB’s watch. They were all coached by Gullett. It will be interesting to see if any other teams scarf up Gullett as a pitching coach. A couple of years ago, when Stottlemyer was sick with Cancer, it was rumored that the Yankees wanted Gullett in the worst way. My bet is that much a the shine has worn off Don Gullett.

  12. Joel

    “To Hell with Adam Dunn!”

    Such anger I sense in this one. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

  13. Jeremy

    dave miley batted rich aurilia (.279 OBA) second last night and deserved to be fired for that alone.

    Things can only get better from here, but that would have been true no matter what the reds did today.

  14. Tyler

    Adam Dunn is by far the most talented player on this team. And even though he’s not playing up to his full talent yet, he’s still the best player on the team. He has an OPS over 1.000 and he’s only 25. He will get better folks. If the Reds trade him or let him walk, its the stupidest move they have made, ever!

  15. Tyler

    Sorry, Dunns OPS is “only” .951. There are only 3 players under the age of 28 in the top 10, Dunn, Pujols and the often injured Nick Johnson.

    I’d say he’s a keeper. If you don’t think he’s a great player, then I don’t know what to do to convince you.

    Defence you might say, well he should be playing 1B anyway, we need to trade Casey.

  16. Matt

    AMEN Tyler. It’s not that hard to figure out.

  17. Blue

    Felipe Lopez is the most talented player on this team. There’s no question about it. BA, SLG, OBP, whatever your favorite stat, he’s good. Couple that with his defense, and he’s the best we’ve got.

    I really should give it a rest on Dunn, he’s better than I let on. I think his attitude gets to me sometimes, but then again, I can’t tell anything about his demeanor when I read what he says.

    Calm down Blue…

    1,2,3,4,5,6,7…

  18. Tyler

    I love Felipe, but I don’t think he’s our best player yet. He’s had one good half in his career.

    Dunn has hit for 3 years at the big league level, and he’s only a year older than Felipe.

  19. Chris

    I would say Felipe and Dunn should certainly be considered untouchable. Tonight, I heard the radio talk show guys out here in S.D. talking about Wily Mo being available. I’m 100% convinced now that they just make stuff up. Last Friday it was Harang, now it’s WMP. It’s never Milton or Aurilia – players the Reds would actually like to trade for prospects. I lost all faith when the guy proceeded to refer to the Royals’ Mike Sweeney (on the DL and declining offensively) as “an elite slugger” who might be traded soon.

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