This is kind of old, but it’s from the DDN

Several New York Mets reportedly have told Graves that for the last two years he has been tipping his pitches, doing something out of the ordinary that lets hitters know what pitch is coming.

Graves is with the Mets preparatory to signing an on-the-table deal and has thrown on the side for them, where players clued him in.

One veteran player who has played on several teams and is an acknowledged master of stealing signs and discovering tip-offs was asked about Graves.

“Two years?” he said. “No, at least four years. He tips off when he is going to throw his curveball. Graves has great stuff and batters would never hit him the way they have without knowing what’s coming.”

And the braintrust of the Cincinnati Reds said:

Reds manager Dave Miley said the club was not aware of it if Graves was doing something to let the opposition know what was coming.

“No idea, not that we know,” said Miley.

Pitching coach Don Gullett declined to talk about it, “Until I have all the details.”

Said catcher Jason LaRue, who caught most of Graves’ appearances over the past four years, “Wouldn’t surprise me if he was. There had to be some explanation.”

Can anyone explain why Gullett is still the Reds pitching coach?

I’ve been a Reds fan since the late ’60’s, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in ’84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in ’90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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  1. “Can anyone explain why Gullett is still the Reds pitching coach?”
    Probably because he works for less than any other options out there. That’s how BaBoone got the job and probably how most of the coaches, trainers and other staff got their jobs. The organization shakedown needs to start at the top. Someone needs to consult with Lindner and tell him that he doesn’t have to match the Yankees payroll in eithe coaches or players, but he does need to spend a great deal more to entice the best coaches, trainers, and GMs to work for the Cincinnati Reds. Why are Reds owners always so dang cheap? I’m sure Lindner doesn’t hire his insurance company executives based on who will work for the cheapest pay.

  2. When players come over from other teams, do they tell their new teammates what their old teammates have found as weaknesses? Is there some unwritten code that you cannot tell your new teammate “hey, Danny, when I was with the Padres, the guys in the clubhouse think you were tipping your pitches.”

    Just curious how that works…you’d think with the amount of player movement in trades and free agency, someone would hear about these weaknesses within 4 years.

  3. That’s what I thought, too. Why didn’t Veteran Leader Rich Aurilia pipe up with this?

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I've been a Reds fan since the late '60's, with my luck of being able to attend plenty of games at Riverfront during the BRM era. I was sitting in the Green Seats in the OF when Pete came home in '84 and was in the Red seats when Glenn Braggs reached over the fence in '90 to beat the Pirates. I have had many favorites from Jim Maloney to Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Adam Dunn, and Jay Bruce.

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