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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hairston is worth his 2 million. I don't expect him to OPS anything better than .775 either. Still, he does one thing well that leads to success for the most part in GABP and thats put the ball in play a lot. He will draw some walks as well. He certainly isn't the .850 OPS guy he showed last year, but I don't think he is the .700 OPS guy his career suggests either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hairston is worth his 2 million. I don&#8217;t expect him to OPS anything better than .775 either. Still, he does one thing well that leads to success for the most part in GABP and thats put the ball in play a lot. He will draw some walks as well. He certainly isn&#8217;t the .850 OPS guy he showed last year, but I don&#8217;t think he is the .700 OPS guy his career suggests either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Steve Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hairston will get millions, but it's not deserved, and I think most Reds fans are overrating what he will do this year.

 It sounds like Pokey Reese syndrome to me...a guy hits a total outlier for his skillset/career norms, at age 33 (past prime) and the Reds seem to think he possesses the keys to the kingdom.

Multimillion dollar contracts to journeymen and replaceable parts are the payroll problem, not big salaries to star players whom actually add wins to the team.

While Keppinger is not a shortstop, (why wasn't he at 2b and Phillips at SS?), Hairston's got 40 career games at shortstop in the majors out of 807 career games, and 34 of those 40 came last year.

What makes anyone think he's become a shortstop at age 33?

Now Honus Wagner became the world's greatest shortstop ever at age 29 when the Pirates finally left him there....I just don't see Hairston having that skillset....

Chris is right...pay players to carry the team and surround them with role players rather than signing mediocrity....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hairston will get millions, but it&#8217;s not deserved, and I think most Reds fans are overrating what he will do this year.</p>
<p> It sounds like Pokey Reese syndrome to me&#8230;a guy hits a total outlier for his skillset/career norms, at age 33 (past prime) and the Reds seem to think he possesses the keys to the kingdom.</p>
<p>Multimillion dollar contracts to journeymen and replaceable parts are the payroll problem, not big salaries to star players whom actually add wins to the team.</p>
<p>While Keppinger is not a shortstop, (why wasn&#8217;t he at 2b and Phillips at SS?), Hairston&#8217;s got 40 career games at shortstop in the majors out of 807 career games, and 34 of those 40 came last year.</p>
<p>What makes anyone think he&#8217;s become a shortstop at age 33?</p>
<p>Now Honus Wagner became the world&#8217;s greatest shortstop ever at age 29 when the Pirates finally left him there&#8230;.I just don&#8217;t see Hairston having that skillset&#8230;.</p>
<p>Chris is right&#8230;pay players to carry the team and surround them with role players rather than signing mediocrity&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll take Hairston at Short over Keppinger any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take Hairston at Short over Keppinger any day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will take Hairston at $2 million. I won't complain about that. I just have to really hope that the Reds aren't done though, because we still can't sniff .500 at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will take Hairston at $2 million. I won&#8217;t complain about that. I just have to really hope that the Reds aren&#8217;t done though, because we still can&#8217;t sniff .500 at this point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Kurt Frost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rays get Burrell, the Reds get Hairston Jr.   Perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rays get Burrell, the Reds get Hairston Jr.   Perfect.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Matt Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah I don't know why everyone is so high on Nady here? 


A healthy Rocco Baldelli I don't think is equal to a Matt Holliday, even with Holliday's home/road splits.  It would be nice to sign him... 

But I still advocate trying to go for Abreu.  See if he atleast has interest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah I don&#8217;t know why everyone is so high on Nady here? </p>
<p>A healthy Rocco Baldelli I don&#8217;t think is equal to a Matt Holliday, even with Holliday&#8217;s home/road splits.  It would be nice to sign him&#8230; </p>
<p>But I still advocate trying to go for Abreu.  See if he atleast has interest</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my "flex-plan" season ticket renewal form Monday.  I think I want to write more about this, but there's not a chance in hell I'm writing them another check for $385.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my &#8220;flex-plan&#8221; season ticket renewal form Monday.  I think I want to write more about this, but there&#8217;s not a chance in hell I&#8217;m writing them another check for $385.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's what I don't understand:  What's the point of spending moderate money ($4-8M) on barely-above-replacement-level scrubs like Taveras and Ramon Hernandez, when you could get actual, good-not-great players for $10M?

Either spend, or don't spend.  Contend, or rebuild.  This middle ground crap is just wasting money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t understand:  What&#8217;s the point of spending moderate money ($4-8M) on barely-above-replacement-level scrubs like Taveras and Ramon Hernandez, when you could get actual, good-not-great players for $10M?</p>
<p>Either spend, or don&#8217;t spend.  Contend, or rebuild.  This middle ground crap is just wasting money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by World</title>
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		<dc:creator>World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John- 

Amen.  Walt is having trouble even talking to front line players because they just don't want to play in Cincy.  Baltimore has the same problem.  As do many others.  Sure, money is an issue and so are many other things.  But the Reds are losers right now and have been this way for a good while.  The season is too damned long to be hanging your heads on the bus back to the hotel night after night.  

If the money is good somewhere else where there seems to be hope of making the postseason, why would you sign with the Rojos?  Big Bob has not shown the desire to go above market rate just yet.  And probably will not.

So I suppose your best bet is to be patient and hope some of the young players develop.  But there will be a lot of losses along this path.

A lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John- </p>
<p>Amen.  Walt is having trouble even talking to front line players because they just don&#8217;t want to play in Cincy.  Baltimore has the same problem.  As do many others.  Sure, money is an issue and so are many other things.  But the Reds are losers right now and have been this way for a good while.  The season is too damned long to be hanging your heads on the bus back to the hotel night after night.  </p>
<p>If the money is good somewhere else where there seems to be hope of making the postseason, why would you sign with the Rojos?  Big Bob has not shown the desire to go above market rate just yet.  And probably will not.</p>
<p>So I suppose your best bet is to be patient and hope some of the young players develop.  But there will be a lot of losses along this path.</p>
<p>A lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody ever consider that maybe Burrell didn't get an offer from Philly, so he went from one pennant winner to another for a reduced rate?  Maybe because he wanted to be back in the playoffs asap?

Players want to win, too.  If they're going to play for a team that sucks, it'll cost that team more money.  Hence the Reds can't sign anyone of note.  It takes money, sure, but it also takes actually being a good team for someone good to want to play here for a reduced rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody ever consider that maybe Burrell didn&#8217;t get an offer from Philly, so he went from one pennant winner to another for a reduced rate?  Maybe because he wanted to be back in the playoffs asap?</p>
<p>Players want to win, too.  If they&#8217;re going to play for a team that sucks, it&#8217;ll cost that team more money.  Hence the Reds can&#8217;t sign anyone of note.  It takes money, sure, but it also takes actually being a good team for someone good to want to play here for a reduced rate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way too much love for a mediocrity like Xavier Nady in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too much love for a mediocrity like Xavier Nady in here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1956 Reds on &#8220;What&#8217;s My Line&#8221; by Y-City Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Klu should have torn the sleeves off his jacket!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Klu should have torn the sleeves off his jacket!  <img src='http://redlegnation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by arch10</title>
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		<dc:creator>arch10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sign Randy Wolfe And Roco And if the whole team stays heathy and a few guys have big years, we will CONTEND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sign Randy Wolfe And Roco And if the whole team stays heathy and a few guys have big years, we will CONTEND.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by arch10</title>
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		<dc:creator>arch10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a heathy Roco, is about equal to a Matt Holliday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a heathy Roco, is about equal to a Matt Holliday</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Outfield Situation by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith Law mentioned months ago, and I tend to agree, that the Reds HAVE a surplus of outfielders and I quote "as soon as they realize Encarnacion cannot play third base."  That is incredibly true.  

By all accounts:

1) Bruce is your right fielder for the next 7-8 years.
2) Yonder Alonso will be up by 2010.  Where does Votto play?
3) Frazier will likely be up in mid 2010.  Is he 3B or LF?  Where does that put E5 and Votto?
4) Francisco could be up as early as 2010 but probably 2011.  Where does that put Frazier?
5) What about Dorn?
6) What about Dickerson?

We have 6 guys that are going to do battle for 3 spots.  So sinking three years into a player is a waste of resources. 
4) 

Still the Reds' pitching is too good not to add a run producer now because the Reds COULD surprise.  I don't see any move the Cubs made and say WOW they improved.  If anything, I think the Cubs took a significant step backward.  So did the Brewers.  The team to beat will be St. Louis.

I mentioned the Nady idea in another thread and think that he is the perfect fit.  He is arb eligible and won't be expensive.  He should net a decent enough prospect in a trade - maybe a Frazier, but given what was dealt for him, he won't cost us the farm.

A lineup of

Taveras/Dickerson
Votto
Nady
Bruce
Phillips
Encarnacion
Hernandez
Gonzalez/Keppinger

looks okay.  If the Reds pitching can keep us in games, then maybe you take a gamble in July and look to add another BIG bat.  If not, dump Nady and Hernandez for prospects and bring up Stubbs, Frazier and Alonso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith Law mentioned months ago, and I tend to agree, that the Reds HAVE a surplus of outfielders and I quote &#8220;as soon as they realize Encarnacion cannot play third base.&#8221;  That is incredibly true.  </p>
<p>By all accounts:</p>
<p>1) Bruce is your right fielder for the next 7-8 years.<br />
2) Yonder Alonso will be up by 2010.  Where does Votto play?<br />
3) Frazier will likely be up in mid 2010.  Is he 3B or LF?  Where does that put E5 and Votto?<br />
4) Francisco could be up as early as 2010 but probably 2011.  Where does that put Frazier?<br />
5) What about Dorn?<br />
6) What about Dickerson?</p>
<p>We have 6 guys that are going to do battle for 3 spots.  So sinking three years into a player is a waste of resources.<br />
4) </p>
<p>Still the Reds&#8217; pitching is too good not to add a run producer now because the Reds COULD surprise.  I don&#8217;t see any move the Cubs made and say WOW they improved.  If anything, I think the Cubs took a significant step backward.  So did the Brewers.  The team to beat will be St. Louis.</p>
<p>I mentioned the Nady idea in another thread and think that he is the perfect fit.  He is arb eligible and won&#8217;t be expensive.  He should net a decent enough prospect in a trade - maybe a Frazier, but given what was dealt for him, he won&#8217;t cost us the farm.</p>
<p>A lineup of</p>
<p>Taveras/Dickerson<br />
Votto<br />
Nady<br />
Bruce<br />
Phillips<br />
Encarnacion<br />
Hernandez<br />
Gonzalez/Keppinger</p>
<p>looks okay.  If the Reds pitching can keep us in games, then maybe you take a gamble in July and look to add another BIG bat.  If not, dump Nady and Hernandez for prospects and bring up Stubbs, Frazier and Alonso.</p>
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