Game Thread

Reds at Orioles (September 2, 2014)

The Reds travel to the lovely Camden Yards in Baltimore to begin a series with the American League Central leading Orioles. For the Reds it means another series in an AL park where the club has to find someone who can be listed as a designated hitter. For the Orioles, it’s a chance to increase on their 8.5 game division lead. For me, its a chance to watch the Orioles, a team I’ve never really hated and somewhat liked over the course of my life, play my beloved Reds. I think most of the reason I’ve been partial to the Orioles is their awesome bird hats and the fact Chris Sabo once played for them back in the day.

Regardless of their hats and the fact Spuds played for them, I’ll pull for the Reds and hope the club can salvage a strong finish to this otherwise dismal 2014 campaign. Discuss the game here Reds fans!

Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Frazier 1B
3. Phillips 2B
4. Mesoraco C
5. Bruce RF
6. Heisey LF
7. Pena DH
8. Negron 3B
9. Santiago SS
– Latos P

107 thoughts on “Reds at Orioles (September 2, 2014)

  1. So the reds get a dh spot that they could use to put any of the younger guys that they just called up in and get them a few at bats. And instead, they dh…Bryan Pena? Uh, ok.

      • Pena’s got a .290 obp,, Santiago’s got a better slash line than him, just glad that Tucker’s up because Reds would be in a tough spot if Mes went down now that Soto did not get the call. I realize I should be happy that Jack is not the actual DH- but Ludwick would have made more sense- they better not sign him after not seeing what he has got left

        • Ludwick is 1 for his last 22. Santiago is playing SS; do you want him to DH too?

          I’d like to see Jack DH either tomorrow or Thursday; he’s 1 for 3 with a HR against Gonzalez and 2 for 3 against Tillman. Sure, SSS, but he should play sometimes; he’s 4 for his last 12 after coming off the DL and being 0 for 14.

      • They may not admit it publicly, but the Broxton trade seemed to signal that maybe they were finally being realistic. They called up 10 guys, and they are not in a pennant race anymore. It would seem like the smart thing to do would be to get a look at some of these guys to see if they could be in the running for a job next year. You wouldn’t base your decision solely of what they did in September, or at least you shouldn’t, but what point does playing shumaker or Hannahan have at this point. Back to the original point, the extra ab’s probably aren’t going to help a over 30 back up catcher like Pena. But they could really help a young guy like Yorman or Lutz.

        • In what way? If the young guy hits .100 in 20 Abs, the claim will just be that’s too small a sample size to matter. Did they pass a rule that just because you call a guy up, you have to play him every day?

          At present, the Reds still aren’t out of it; none of the teams on front of them is playing particularly well and if the Reds put together a lengthy winning streak they could close ground quickly. That may be unlikely, but it’s still possible. Maybe they should at least wait until next week’s four game series with the Cardinals at GABP before they start playing players who are highly unlikely to make next year’s squad.

    • exactly, do we really need to see Pena- guy has been solid, but if he is not in the field- let one of the others get a shot- might as well have put Cozart as the DH

  2. What strange compulsion makes the Reds say “well, a guy is back from the DL. Let’s just pretend he’s 100% healthy and bat him in the same spot he was in before.”

    BP didn’t belong in the three hole when he was healthy. By his own admission he’s not nearly completely healthy. He’s batting below .200 since coming back. Yet there he is…

      • The only possible choice might be Negron but your observation “Reds still aren’t willing to concede the season.” is probably the guiding thought process.

        • We know that Negron doesn’t have very good minor league numbers but was hitting very well for the Reds for a while. However, he’s 2 for his last 20, so his talent level might be catching up.

          I really like the guy as a utility player but a middle of the lineup hitter he isn’t.

      • Frazier with Negron 2nd would make the most sense, but it is silly to actually worry about it any more at this point- just accept that you are not going to get line-up optimization until the whole management is gutted and BP is gone- not that I calling for it- just the way things are- expect sacrifice bunts too

        • Orthodox sabermetric lineup optimization says your two best hitters bat 2 and 4 with 4 having the higher SLG. That’s exactly what Bryan has done.

          The same type of analysis says you shouldn’t base the lineup on SSS but on projected stats. It would be hard to argue that Negron would be projected over the long haul to be a better hitter than BP.

  3. I’m rooting and cheering on the REDS tonight. I can’t think of a single lineup configuration that would excite me. Blah Blah Blah…..go reds.

  4. When they pull the bullpen into the dugout I would think that means more than a 30min delay.

  5. I’ve been looking forward to this series, its not often you get to see a team play that is as well coached as the Baltimore Orioles. Buck Showalter has learned from his past mistakes and has gone on to become one of the best managers in baseball. How awesome would it be to see Showalter wearing a Reds uniform. Hey, I guy can dream can’t he. Still, I’m rooting for the Reds to win. Go Reds!

        • I don’t understand the disconnect that seems to go on with diagnosis and prognosis department of the Reds medical staff. On the one side, Kremchek seems to have a very solid national reputation as an actual hands on surgeon; on the other side they seem to fumble or punt the diagnosis several times be before they eventually get to the surgery part.

  6. Last thing I want to hear is how the field is to blame for everything bad that’s happening to the Reds. Doesn’t seem to be a problem for the Orioles.

  7. Marty and Cowboy said the home plate ump is trying to make up for lost time (rain delay) and if the ball is anywhere near the strike zone its going to be called a strike. Time to hack away, if there’s one thing the Reds hitters are good at its hacking away. (unfortunately, without rhyme or reason)

  8. Lets hear some suggestions for who we want to get for Latos in the offseason. From Dodgers I might suggest Van Slyke, from Red Sox I wonder if Betts could play short.

    • I’m all for shopping the three pitchers, leake, Latos and cueto, to see what you could get, and I would probably trade one of them. Right now though, it just kinda seems like you would be selling low on latos. Cueto, on the other hand is probably at the peak of his value. But if a team thought latos was fully healthy and his velocity was gonna bounce back, then they might like him more than Cueto because he could be easier and cheaper to extend. Will be interesting.

  9. I was just wondering, is it a common practice for the teams Orthopedic surgeon to always be in the dugout, and to also travel with the team on road games. I’ve seen trainers that run out on the field when a player goes down, but I don’t recall seeing other teams Orthopedic surgeon doing what Doc Hollywood does. Just curious, that’s all.

  10. The ONLY reason to keep watching the Reds on my paid, annual MLBTV subscription is to watch them play spoiler to some of these playoff contenders, but they don’t put up much of a fight. Heck, even the Astros are playing the Angels tough, tonight. Oh, well. Boring baseball, though, to say the least.

  11. Glad these guys enjoyed their day off yesterday while almost every other team in mlb played on Labor Day – looks like Price had them ready to play tonight – no carryover from all those hamburgers and hotdogs – looks like a big haze of ETHER has settled in the Reds dugout from that shot they showed a minute ago – definition of lethargy sitting in that dugout

  12. So on the radio pregame show, Marty asks Price the obligatory when and how much will the call up guys play and of course Price comes back with the book answer about how as long as they are in contention and/ or playing teams in contention they will be playing their regulars pretty much exclusively. Then he went on to give an example of using Bourgeois as a pinch runner or some such as a way he can get value out of the call up guys. Later on in the month if “things change” he finally allows, we might see more of the call ups guys.

    I think what he was really saying was that it wouldn’t be fair to the contending teams for him to try and put a better offensive club on the field.

  13. Just have the radio and you guys tonight. This is when I really appreciate Interleague. It gives you a chance to see teams you don’t get a chance to. Baltimore isn’t north enough to be seen often as an AL East team.

  14. The last thing this Reds team needed was another “players manager” I think we’re seeing why Dusty chose Price to be his right hand man. Two peas in a pod.

  15. Also seeing tonight why Heisey just cannot step up and seize the left field job he has had numerous chances to do so – too inconsistent – like the guy , but too inconsistent

  16. Anyone read the story about the Giant’s Susac? His first major league hit was recorded two months before he was called up to the big leagues. Baseball…..

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