Game Thread

Red Sox at Reds (August 12, 2014)

The Reds welcome the Red Sox into Great American Ball Park for another interleague series. The Reds were able to win the last two interleague games that were in GABP and will look to continue that winning streak tonight against Boston.

These series always scare me. No, not the outcome of the game but the fact that the Red Sox are in town. The Red Sox have a large following of fans. I’m afraid that as I watch the game tonight I’ll hear a lot of cheers from the opposing team’s crowd inside the stadium. I really hope I am wrong and Cincinnati fans pack the place. With that said, I have some friends here in Virginia making the 4-hour trip to Cincinnati to watch these games. They are Red Sox fans! Here’s to hoping them a safe, and disappointing ride home!

Discuss the game here Reds fans! Go Reds!

Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Bruce RF
3. Frazier 3B
4. Mesoraco C
5. Pena 1B
6. Heisey LF
7. Santiago 2B
8. Cozart SS
9. Latos P

182 thoughts on “Red Sox at Reds (August 12, 2014)

  1. No surprises in the lineup; Negron has fallen into a prolonged slump and Santiago went 2 for 3 Sunday. Ludwick is 0-5 lifetime against Kelly plus looked awful Sunday. I would have preferred Skip 5 for 18 in his last 5 starts to Heisey 3 for 26 in his last 6 but 3 for 5 coming off the bench in that period but that’s a minor quibble. Chris seems to get a lot of rope.

    • Heisey get a lot of rope because he plays good defense and he’s got more power than Schumaker. Of course he often hangs himself with that rope. I like him as a pinch hitter.

    • Why use Skip’s last 5 starts and Heisey’s last 6? If you took Skip to 6 starts he’d be 5-21. If you took Heisey to 5 starts he’d be 3-20.

      But for some reason you decided to go 5 for Skip and 6 for Heisey. Go equal for both at least. 5-18, 3-20 if you’re talking the last 5 starts. Of course that doesn’t support your narrative.

      Skip Schumaker has been worth -1.0 WAR this season. That means he’s been worth a full win less than a *replacement* level player.

      Heisey’s August: .294/.333/.471 with plus defense.
      Schumaker’s August: .238/.292/.238 with awful defense.

      Regardless of how you try to skew it by excluding PHs and making Heisey’s sample size be just big enough to look awful and Schumaker’s small enough to be good, the fact remains Heisey is a better baseball players than Skip. Skip has no defense, no power, no speed, and no business starting baseball games.

        • That’s one of the more amazing/depressing things: Schumaker has also been lousy at gritty things like driving in a runner from 3B with less than 2 outs or moving a runner over.

      • How doesn’t the last 5 starts “support my narrative”? .278 is still a bit better than .150. And we won’t mention how Heisey managed to get himself picked off as the tying run in the 9th on Saturday.

        Heisey’s August is only good because he was 3 for 5 as a non-starter. In his three starts, he’s 2 for 12.

        I’m more interested in how a player is performing NOW than what he did in April or May. Heisey has been given ample chances to start but he consistently fails to hit at all.

        The team needs offense which Skip has a better chance of providing than “no-hit” Heisey. But you guys have some bias against Skip (I guess because he used to play for the Cardinals) so you’d prefer that someone plays who can’t hit when he starts. At this point, I’d say Heisey is a pretty good non-tender candidate for next year; why pay $2 million for someone who you can’t start?

        • 5 games is NOTHING. You are making yourself look silly by even trying to make this argument.

        • There is only one way to evaluate Skip, carreer numbers. They are frankly horrible. How he is a major leaguer is beyond me.

        • Do you have any concept of sample size? You cannot seriously be saying Negron is in a “prolonged” slump that has lasted a grand total of 3 games. And saying Skip should be playing because of how he has hit in his last 5 starts.

          Surely you must recognize that just because Santiago went 2 for 3 on Sunday, doesn’t mean he is “on fire”, or something of that nature.

  2. Considering that the Reds are without BP and Votto, this is their A lineup. I’d say the same thing if Ludwick were in the lineup, Ludwick vs. Heisey is a wash right now.

    The Red Sox lineup is surprisingly full of holes, but regardless I don’t expect them to be quiet on offense.

        • I was responding to Eric the Red’s post:

          That’s one of the more amazing/depressing things: Schumaker has also been lousy at gritty things like driving in a runner from 3B with less than 2 outs or moving a runner over.

          Actually he’s been quite good in the first situation. Don’t know where to find stats for the latter.

    • Do you seriously think that how someone has performed in a 9 at-bat sample is in any way predictive of how they’ll do in the future?

  3. Admittedly Skip hasn’t had a good year but here’s some other stats which might be relevant when you want to score some runs:

    RISP:

    Heisey: .152/.196/.261
    Skip: 229/.291/.333

    Men on Base:

    Heisey: .167/.215/.278
    Skip .237/.294/.316

    It’s not even close.

    • This has gone past silly to the point of parody now.” Hey, skip is 10-20 with 3 homers on Thursdays in August against right handed pitchers under 30. That means he’s so much better than Heisey because heisey is 0-12 against lefties named Ramon or Jose”
      Dude if you can’t see that Heisey is a much more useful player than skippy then I don’t know what to tell you.

  4. Surprised he went on a 3-0 count – pretty much guaranteed Kelly was going to throw a fastball which makes it harder to steal.

  5. Not sure with a wild pitcher on the mound, Pena decides to swing at the first pitch and ground into a double play? Why not take a strike and “work” the at bat. Let the pitcher work a little….

  6. Good job by Latos there after his brain lock in not even looking at the pitcher on 2B. Overpowered Big Papi and got Cespedes on a routine fly ball.

  7. I feel bad for Heisey, He just looks like hes really guessing, and guessing badly. He could use a bit of grit!

    • Why take a strike? If he got a hit would you have complained about him swinging at the first pitch?

      • Not all strikes are the same. In that kind of situation, he should be looking for a specific pitch in a specific area. Otherwise, let it go. Usually in that situation, the batter will hit the ball hard. It may be an out but it will be scalded. Cozart’s ball wasn’t hit that hard. That’s why I have a problem with it.

  8. If all I was doing was reading the posts here rather than watching the game, I’d think we were losing by 10 runs.

  9. Buccos are up early, and Tigers are struggling, but I sure would rather draw the Sox than Detroit in Interleague.

  10. So does anyone know the Front Office plan?

    Are we just waiting around for BP and Votto? Waiting until September and the inter-division games to make a push? Or just standing pat and let the chips fall where they may?

    • I think the front office plan is the same plan for when you see a grizzly bear in the woods: Stand still, no sudden moves, and hope for the best.

    • “So does anyone know the Front Office plan?”

      For some reason, I just thought about the damage control creedo we used in the submarine service:
      “When in trouble, when in doubt: Run in circles, scream and shout.”

    • Just curious, is bunting the tie run into scoring position ever a good idea, I thought if you were the home team it is borderline given the batter

    • Is he doing the game with Doug Flynn? He didn’t take innings off when paired with him earlier this year. Side note, I like Flynn doing the game.

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