2013 Reds / Titanic Struggle Recap

Titanic Struggle Recap: Who’s afraid of the big, bad west coast?

Let’s recap tonight’s titanic struggle….

FINAL
Cincinnati 5
Los Angeles 2

W: M. Latos (10-3)
L: Z. Greinke (8-3)
S: A. Chapman (24)
BOX SCORE

POSITIVES
–Superb outing by Mat Latos tonight: 7.2 innings, one earned run allowed on eight hits.

–Xavier Paul had a solo homer in the first to get the Reds on the board. Later, Jay Bruce came through with his 21st homer, a two-run shot that gave the Reds a three-run lead.

–Todd Frazier was 2-4 with a double. Joey Votto went 2-4.

–Cesar Izturis had a hit! And an RBI!

NEGATIVES
–We’re big fans of Shin-Soo Choo here, but this is just embarrassing. Choo also made an error on a throw earlier in the game. Yes, Choo had a rough night indeed, despite a couple of hits and an RBI.

–Aroldis Chapman, rusty because he hasn’t pitched in a week, struggled a bit in the ninth. He gave up a hit and walked a batter, but ultimately recorded the “save.” He was throwing hard, however, reaching 102 on the radar gun.

NOT-SO-RANDOM THOUGHTS
–Another excellent win in what has been a superb second half, thus far. With tonight’s win, the Reds are now 6-2 since the break, 4-1 on this road trip, and they’ve won seven of nine overall. The Redlegs also picked up a game on second-place Pittsburgh, though the Cardinals continue to play great baseball.

–There was a time, during the 90s and 00s, when the Reds would go out west every single year and come home with their tails between their legs. If you weren’t worried about that when this road trip began, you haven’t been a Reds fan for very long. Cincinnati was in a precarious spot when they left to go west, in third place and in danger of falling out of the race before August even arrived.

Well, they may not keep winning on this trip, and this may not be a springboard to a great second-half run…but at the very least, the Redlegs haven’t ruined their season on this trip. For that, we should be very thankful indeed.

–Cincinnati’s win tonight snapped LA’s six-game winning streak.

–With two outs in the eighth inning, Latos had two runners on base (after already surrendering one run). Seems like a good opportunity to bring in Aroldis Chapman for a four-out save, no?

Nope. Manny Parra. Parra did escape thanks to some excellent glove-work by Cesar Izturis on a hard-hit line drive.

–Latos is 10-3 with a 3.39 ERA. That’s good.

–Even though I wouldn’t have chosen Parra in the situation mentioned above, you can’t deny that Parra has pitched awfully well lately.

–The Reds are fifteen games over .500. They haven’t yet been sixteen games over this season.

Source: FanGraphs

78 thoughts on “Titanic Struggle Recap: Who’s afraid of the big, bad west coast?

  1. Superb outing by Latos against a tough lineup. Some nice swings against Greinke.

    I was worried about this trip mainly because of the 4 games against the Dodgers, and didn’t like having 4 games in 3 days just prior to that. But so far so good. Still 3 more against the Dodgers and 3 against the Padres, who are over .500 at home.

  2. I love Choo but he met with a lot of Korean media before the game, and the Friday and Saturday games will be televised. It may have affected him tonite. He was trying to do “too much”, as they say, on the wild throw.

    If I understand correctly (which I’m not sure), Choo made 2 separate mental errors on his TOOTBLAN. Vin Scully said he got deked by H. Ramirez, I assume that’s why he slid into 2nd instead of running to 3rd (he was running on the pitch). Then he’s still safe on 2nd, but runs back to first after looking at the Dodger CF. So he was thinking the ball was caught in the air ? Nobody deked him into that. And to figure out what’s going on, he looks at Dodger players rather than a base coach ?

    • I love Choo but he met with a lot of Korean media before the game, and the Friday and Saturday games will be televised. It may have affected him tonite. He was trying to do “too much”, as they say, on the wild throw.

      If I understand correctly (which I’m not sure), Choo made 2 separate mental errors on his TOOTBLAN. Vin Scully said he got deked by H. Ramirez, I assume that’s why he slid into 2nd instead of running to 3rd (he was running on the pitch). Then he’s still safe on 2nd, but runs back to first after looking at the Dodger CF. So he was thinking the ball was caught in the air ? Nobody deked him into that. And to figure out what’s going on, he looks at Dodger players rather than a base coach ?

      Give the guy a break.The man somehow manages to be on base almost every game, a brain fart here and there isn’t a massive problem when you’re playing 162 games! Unfortunately we almost certainly can’t re-sign him (Boris), unless Uncle Walt pulls some crazy GMagic.

      • @Tourniquette: As I said, “I love Choo.” Also said, “If I understand correctly (which I’m not sure) …”

        Anyway, happy to give Choo a break. He had a big smile after he drove in the insurance run in the 9th, that was nice.

  3. The Reds have been playing so many games that it seems like a week, but Chapman had four days off, not six. His command was poor – if not for a big assist from Jerry Hairston, swinging at a 3-2 pitch that was way low and inside, things would have gotten way too interesting. After getting ahead 1-2 to Uribe, 3 straight balls to bring the tying run to the plate. Ugh.

    HAT gave numbers about a week ago showing that Chapman has been throwing more first pitch strikes than last year, but that once he gets to ball 3, he has more trouble throwing a strike than last year. His ball 3 problems continued last nite.

    This is hindsight, but the 26 pitches he threw to get 3 outs indicates that a 4 out save might have been dicey.

  4. Parra has pitched awfully well lately.

    Parra has pitched “very”, “extremely” well. Saying “awfully well” is an oxymoron. awfully: an adverb meaning an unpleasant, bad, or reprehensible manner. That does not sound like Parra lately. Jeff Brantley, are you taking notes? Jeff “Awfully Good” Brantley.

    • @sezwhom1:

      That’s being awfully picky. Many, many dictionaries acknowledge awfully as a simple intensifier substitute for very. It is an informal use, but that’s definitely Brantley’s style.

      I love Brantley’s voice, knowledge of the game and southern vernacular. I just wish I wasn’t confused about the action game action as often as I am while he’s on the mic.

    • @sezwhom1: Coming from a person with “whom” in his handle; not surprising. I want to thank you for your incredibly insightful post about baseball.

  5. Hello all,

    Long time reader but felt compelled to finally join since you all are mentioning the broadcast here in Korea. I am currently in Seoul, South Korea and have been here for 2 months. The hype for the Choo-Ryu showdown is unreal here. The MLB stores have stickers on the walls and windows advertising the showdown with dates. Logging into Facebook has ads about Choo vs Ryu with contests even to predict the outcome of the at bats and you could win a trip to see one play in the United States if you guess correct. I’m not saying that is what caused his errors today, but I would imagine he has an idea of what this means here. And sadly, the arrival of Ryu has made Choo the #2 favorite ball player in Korea now. Ryu played for years here in the KBO for the Hanwha Eagles getting a lot of exposure and support from the Koreans while Choo skipped the KBO and went straight to the MLB. The Koreans are far more attached to Ryu, and I also wonder if that is in his mind.

    Just some thoughts from the wonderful “Hermit Kingdom”
    -Frogs

      • @Steve Mancuso:
        The Hernit Kingdom refers to Korea in general. Foreign countries had little interest in Korea until after the Korean war. The term now is more widely used for North Korea, but you will still find people here who remember it all being the Hermit Kingdom.

        In Choo’s post game interview with Korean reporters, he said he played like a minor leaguer today.

        I also found an interesting article (http://www.etoday.co.kr/news/section/newsview.php?idxno=767851 for those of you that can read Korean) that says this will be the 14th time 2 different Koreans have faced each other at the MLB level (Meaning Choo vs Ryu = 1 time even if he pitches to him 3 or 4 times in the game). The first happened in 2004 with Sun-woo Kim (remember him reds fans?) of the Expos pitching to Hee-seop Choi of the Florida Marlins. Here in Korea, we are very excited for this game!

  6. If you do a Google search, the first definition that pops up defines “awfully” to mean “very” and uses as an example “an awfully nice man.” I understand your point but that ship sailed a long time ago. And technically, the root of awfully is awe, which doesn’t have a negative connotation.

  7. I only watched the first 3.5 innings. Dusty loading up lefties against Greinke was great and something I’d love to see him do a little more of.

    Against Kershaw I am guessing Choo will be #2. I hope Devin is catching Bailey tonight. It would be a travesty to leave one of our best lefty hitters and hottest hitters in general on the pine.

    • I only watched the first 3.5 innings.Dusty loading up lefties against Greinke was great and something I’d love to see him do a little more of.

      Against Kershaw I am guessing Choo will be #2.I hope Devin is catching Bailey tonight.It would be a travesty to leave one of our best lefty hitters and hottest hitters in general on the pine.

      Good luck with that. 😉

  8. The AB leading to the HR by Bruce was a thing of beauty. Hitting the hanging curveball out to opposite field was very much Vottoesque… With Latos pitching as well as he did, that was a great moment to really keep the tide going the Reds way. Bruce is quietly (as far as the press goes) having a heck of a year.

  9. … and as I print that last comment, I notice that Bruce is front page of ESPN’s website. Doh…

  10. A little groggy as I watched the whole thing last night (this morning). Chappy did look rusty – but he got the job done anyway. Loved the hits against Greinke and Latos did seem to dial it in tightly for the most part. Some great glove work by Joey, Brandon, and Caesar to make it happen. Choo did have a lapse but that happens. He also got deaked out of his socks on Joey’s clean hit. Can’t exactly call that a TOOTBLAN.

    Let’s win tonight and then we’re assured of a split in Chavez Ravine!!

  11. I like offense in a game, but with tonight’s pitching matchup, I’d like to see a double no-no. In the history of MLB, has there ever been two opposing pitchers in the same game go 9 innings without giving up a hit??

    • I@WVRedlegs:

      I had to look it up. The answer was an interesting one. Only once and a Reds pitcher was involved.
      “On May 2,1917, Cubs Hippo Vaughn and Reds Fred Toney both had no-hitters after nine innings. Vaughn lost his in the 10th, but Toney completed the 10-inning no-hitter for the win.”

      • @WVRedlegs:

        I think the white sox were involoved in one as well in the late 1980′s or early 90′s too. Both pitchers had no hitters, but the home team (White sox I believe) scored a run earlier on a combination of walks and an error. So one pitcher only went 8 innings. Fast forward a few years later, when MLB changed the criteria for no-no’s this was retroactively taken off the books.

  12. What’s so surprising about Izturis getting a hit? He’s 11 for his last 36 (.306 average) in sporadic playing time in the last six and a half weeks. He gets a hit in about half the games he starts. The previous two hitless nights were the anomaly.

    Now, he’s never going to be anything more than a veteran bench filler long term, and his overall numbers on the season are poor. But he’s not as worthless as some here seem to suggest.

  13. I still would have brought Chapman in the 8th with two outs like Bouchy did with Romo against the Reds.

  14. –Excellent work by Latos, but you have to figure a Cali guy would pitch well in his home state.
    –Choo did nothing wrong. You got 50,000 screaming fans, he’s running full speed on what looked to be a straight steal, not a hit and run. Completely understandable. And Choo’s throw from CF would’ve nailed the runner had it been on line. Physical error (no one’s perfect), not mental, there’s a difference.
    –If you want to jump on someone, jump on Votto. That ‘great’ defensive play on the grounder was a joke. If he takes a half step forward or to his right, he can field it in between his legs with his top hand protecting his precious face. Again, has anyone EVER seen him take one off the chest? Phillips better be giving him a whole bunch of crap for making an easy play look impossible.
    –Can’t say enough about that great AB by Bruce which led to the HR. Can’t really remember last time I saw him hit an offspeed pitch oppo for a home run. Impressive.

    • @Sultan of Swaff:

      Phillips better be giving him a whole bunch of crap for making an easy play look impossible.

      I agree with your take on the Votto play, and said so last night during the game thread. But Brandon Phillips is the last person who should be poking fun of Votto for embellishing a play, since BP does that every chance he gets. :-)

    • @Sultan of Swaff: If Choo thought the ball was caught, he should know he has 0% chance of getting back to 1st base with the CF standing 40 feet from 2nd base. He should have stayed on the base if he had no idea what was going on, which was clear since he didn’t dig hard for 1st and try to make it back. He was confused, it happens. But saying he did nothing wrong is false. If you don’t know what’s going on, you stay on a base.

      • @prjeter: Choo thought he was out and Hanley was throwing to first to complete the double play. Not even a really good fake. It was definitely a brain fart. Nobody’s perfect.

  15. For the next 2-3 weeks, LF should be ‘interesting for the Reds. There was a lot of frustration with Dusty playing XP in LF as opposed to Heisey. As Caps pointed out in the game thread:

    Chris Heisey gets hot three times a year. During those stretches, you play him everyday until it ends. That’s all there is to it. Not that difficult.

    Since returning from the DL and prior to the left-coast trip, Heisey was hitting .324/.413/.703 with 6 SO, 5 BB, 3 HR & 5 2B in 47 PA, simply sizzling hot! During the 4 game left-coast trip, Heisey is hitting .200/.300/.222 with 4 SO in 10 PA. Both periods reflect very small sample size, but Heisey’s recent AB have been ‘awfully’ bad, indicative of the hacker in Heisey rather than the hitter we saw at the plate after he returned from the DL.

    Robinson & especially XP have been struggling, but both have had much better professional AB’s during this road trip, even if they haven’t had the results from those professional AB. Their splits: .299/.382/.388 (Robinson v. LHP) & .258/.347/.439 (XP v. RHP), continue to translate into the #2 hole ‘awfully’ nice.

    No one has that infallible crystal ball, but Heisey’s track record over the past two seasons indicates brief blazing hot streaks followed by droughts. I just wonder if this pattern has just repeated itself.

    As far as what will happen when Ludwick gets back, I’m pretty sure that neither Heisey nor XP have any options left and Robinson does have options left. If Heisey or XP is DFA’d with no options left, they are gone. The Reds can not carry 6 OF until after roster expansions in September. Such is the nature of the game.

  16. The Choo baserunning issue was a product of the Reds’ stubborn insistence on stealing bases. As Chris Welsh pointed out, Choo was on a straight steal, so he had his head down running for second. He was deked into sliding. Not the first time that’s ever happened.

    Why do the Reds call for stealing bases when Joey Votto is at the plate (or anyone else, for that matter, given their stunning degree of failure). They’re just throwing base runners and outs away.

  17. I must say (and this is NOT a criticism), when Choo decides to have a poor defensive game in CF, he goes all out. I agree with the Exulted @Sultan of Swaff: that Choo’s throw to 1B was simply a good idea gone bad. Votto could have made a play on the throw, but I think Choo caught him by surprise and Choo has a cannon. The throw actually reminded the Old Cossack of some of his throws that ended up in the stands.

    Along that same line of thought, how about the BP backup of 2B on the steal attempt? What a great hustle play by BP.

    • Along that same line of thought, how about the BP backup of 2B on the steal attempt?What a great hustle play by BP.

      Fantastic play by BP. That’s the kind of play that non-reds fans that say BP is overrated never see or hear about. And he makes heads up plays like that often.

  18. I heard this on XM Radio MLB Network this morning. Schumakers’s hit off Chapman in the 9th was the fasted pitched ball resulting in a hit. 102.1 mph.

  19. In reviewing the Reds’ pitching staff performance so far in 2013, the core group of pitchers (sans Freeman, Villareal & Reynolds) has been absolutely spectacular, especially the starters.

    If Cingrani wants to pitch successfully at GABP, he must improve on two key aspects of his performance: reduce his 3.69 BB/9 and reduce his 1.27 HR/9. If he can’t make those adjustments, he won’t last long as a starter in GABP. Cingrani’s young and competative. I expect Price will help him make the necessary adjustments as he prepares him to move to the starting rotation full time for the Reds in 2014.

    • @Shchi Cossack: I do love that about Cingrani—how much he focuses on each pitch when he’s in a jam. To contrast, I think Greinke still had the pitch that hit Phillips running thru his head during the Bruce HR at-bat.

    • @Shchi Cossack: I have a pretty good feeling about Cingrani. He’s made some really good strides so far, and he’s basically still working on learning new pitches.

      I can only imagine how difficult it is to repeat your delivery when you are learning new pitches at the big league level. In the next couple of years I expect the control to improve as he gets more comfortable with his motion, and the HRs to drop when he can use his off-speed pitches more effectively.

      The only danger is what happened to Homer Bailey. If you look at the types of pitches that Bailey has thrown, he’s been all over the place over his career. He used to throw 4-seam, curve, and change, and at the big league level he’s developed a slider, a 2-seam, and a splitter. I think the fact that he didn’t have his repertoire developed was a big part of how he was “rushed.”

      That said, Cingrani is obviously well ahead of where Bailey was when he came up, and I think he’ll be able to improve faster.

  20. I’m a little late here today, but I have to ask. Am I the only one watching the Dodgers feed just to hear Mr. Vin Scully? Its so refreshing to hear a master command a one-man-booth. I also learn something about one or more of our players that I never knew each game. i.e. Didn’t know how many times Heisey went to open tryouts before the Reds picked him up. Nobody, and I mean Nobody is close to Mr. Scully.

    • @hydeman: I was listening to the home feed out of habit. In the 4th inning I suddenly realized: “what am I doing? I should be watching the Dodgers feed.”. So I switched over, and I wasn’t disappointed. Scully really does a wonderful job. The Heisey anecdote struck me, too; I knew the basics, but the way Scully told it made it seem fresh. Chris “Latos hung up a tennis ball” Welsh, are you listening?

    • @hydeman: What about the story of Votto coming over to Frazier last year during a game when Joey was on the DL, apologizing for not getting to know Todd up to that point. This is why every Reds fan, every baseball fan, should have access to Vin Scully’s calls.

      • @wildwestLV: Not to rain on the Scully parade because there is no doubt that he’s the best thing in a baseball booth but our guys have brought up the Votto/Frazier conversation on air too. In fact I think it was mentioned during the Giants series or the series before that, I can’t remember because I tend to blur all the Welsh and company anecdotes after a while. Scully is fantastic but our guys do dig up some interesting stuff.. then they proceed to beat that horse straight into the ground the whole season. The tennis arm slot story was interesting back in April.

    • @hydeman:
      MLB Extra innings package show the home team feed…so luckily I get Scully. Delight to listen too.
      Remember when he did the NBC Game of the Week in the 80′s….before every game was televised.

  21. what is your guys’ take on this: According to ESPN’s Jayson Stark, the Red Sox, Cardinals, Dodgers, Braves, Orioles, Reds and Rangers are scouting Jake Peavy’s start Thursday vs. Detroit. (From rotoworld) . Peavy has nasty stuff

    • @zab1983: I’m not sure why the Reds would trade for Peavy unless they intend to flip him for a bat. The Reds certainly don’t need starting pitching.

      I wouldn’t put too much stock into this. Jocketty said yesterday that there wasn’t anything going on and didn’t think the Reds would do anything at the deadline. Kind of par for the course. Jocketty said he didn’t want to trade his prospects. I’m not sure what else there is to trade.

    • @zab1983: Yeah, I saw that too. I think they’re scouting de Aza or Rios. Conversely, they could be preparing for the Pirates or WLBs to trade for him.

  22. anyone else seeing this cubs formation starting to happen? getting rid of soriano and garza and i’m sure scheirholtz and maybe others before the trade deadline is a step in the right direction for the cubbies. Epstein and the Cubs may be an interesting team starting next season

    • @zab1983: Yeah, the Cardinals having one million games left against the Team Formerly Known as the Cubs more than evens out us having a million games left against the Braunless Brewers. Thanks Mr. Selig for this great, fair scheduling this year /sarcasm/

    • @zab1983:

      …the Red Sox, Cardinals, Dodgers, Braves, Orioles, Reds and Rangers are scouting Jake Peavy’s start Thursday vs. Detroit.

      …anyone else seeing this cubs formation starting to happen?

      Could the Reds be scouting Peavy in anticipation of a big move? Sure, but Peavy carries a big salary and team control through at least 2014. That would mean the Reds would have to give up a lot in a trade for Peavy and they do not have a lot to give up or the budget to absorb the contract. Having a scout at the ChiSox/Tigers game does not mean the Reds are necessarily scouting Peavy just because Peavy is pitching. The ChiSox also have De Aza, Rios, Ramirez & Keppinger on the roster and any of those players could also be on the Reds’ radar. Personally, I don’t thionk the Reds are seriously pursuing anyone with Ludwick so close to returning, but if the right deal presents itself…

      The Cubs started turning things around as soon as Epstein took the reins. Have you seen them loading up on international prospects this season? The NLCD now has a true big-spending, large-market franchise run by serious baseball people. I do not think the pieces will be in place for 2014 to make their run for the roses, but the Cubbies will be a serious factor beginning in 2015 and continuing after that time. The Reds will need a serious-money TV deal and absolutely excellent amature and international scouting to keep their minor league system churning if they are going to be able to compete past 2015-2016.

      • @Shchi Cossack: They also need to start locking up their young talent early, a la the Tampa Bay Rays. I think it’s too late to lock up all three of Bailey, Latos, and Leake, but if you trade one for top prospects you can keep the other two and build for the future.

        As an aside, I realized last night that I truly pity Cubs fans. I imagined the Reds going without a WS title in my lifetime (it hasn’t happened yet!). I kind of want them to win one (the Cubs), just to get it out of the way, then go back to losing. And of course, the Reds win it every other year, taking the one bad year to trade some of their overvalued talent for future HoFs.

        Dreams.

    • @zab1983: I think the Cubs scored a home run when they got Epstein from the Red Sox. He’s the right kind of GM to rebuild a franchise. Even though I like Jocketty, I’m afraid that he doesn’t look to the future enough, and focuses on the now too much (hence the bullpen/Valdez trades).

  23. Can someone explain something to me about FIP? As I understand it, it attempts to take ballpark factors out of the equation so that pitchers can be compared more fairly? But what does that really mean? If a pitcher gives up a first-row homerun in GABP does the equation somehow make that disappear? Would that make sense, given that in the real world he really DID give up a HR? Thanks in advance for any help.

    • @Eric the Red: FIP is Fielding Independent Pitching, so it’s more about getting rid of the impacts of 1) luck and 2) the fielders behind a pitcher, and less about park factors.

      The formula for FIP is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor that scales FIP to match league average ERA for a given season and league.

      The idea is to penalize a pitcher for homeruns and putting guys on base without a hit, and give them credit for strikeouts. Then it gives all pitchers the same league average ERA based on balls in play. The assumption there is that the results on balls in play are not a product of the pitcher, but rather luck (where the ball is hit) and the quality of fielders playing behind them.

      The league average ERA based on balls in play would obviously include every park, so in that way in does sort of take into account the dimensions of a park on balls in play, but not for homeruns like in your example.

      xFIP goes one step further by replacing a pitchers actual HR total, with the league average for HRs/flyball multiplied by the pitcher’s flyball rate. This gets a little more towards what you were thinking in terms of taking out wall-scrapers in a small park.

      Hope this helps.

    • @Eric the Red: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pitching/fip/

      Not ballparks, but fielding. Fielding-Independent Pitching. So, pitchers can control a few things with no input from fielders; strikeouts, walks, hit-by-pitches, and homers. The equation takes those four thing (in the ratios listed in the link above) and comes out with a number that is indexed to be similar to that of an “ERA” so more fans can easily understand what is “good” and “bad.”

        • @Eric the Red: Yeah, xFIP is for that. Although, they arrive at it in a sort of round-about way. Rather than adjusting for parks directly, for example, by looking at all pitchers pitching in that park, and then adjusting based on their performance in other parks, they include the league average rate of homers allowed per fly balls allowed. (HR/FB%). That factor, since league average is calculated based on all pitchers in all parks, essentiall makes it a park-adjusted measure of what a pitcher’s FIP is x-pected to be. (See what I did there? ;) )

          Usually states that are leage/park adjusted have a + after them (OPS+, wOBA+), but xFIP doesnt, for whatever reason.

    • @Eric the Red: If you are concerned about HRs, I believe you want to use xFIP, which does all the things FIP does, but adjusts the formula slightly based on the league average HR/Fly Ball rate, which is between 9 and 10 percent. By doing this, you take the ballpark out of the equation. It doesn’t subtract HRs based on where they went out. It just says for example “this is what Bronson’s HR totals should be based on the league average and how many fly balls he’s surrendered.

      At least, that’s how I understand it.

  24. I don’t disagree with this, but it does just sound like a young pitcher. I mean Cueto and Bailey both had these issues:

    “If Cingrani wants to pitch successfully at GABP, he must improve on two key aspects of his performance: reduce his 3.69 BB/9 and reduce his 1.27 HR/9. If he can’t make those adjustments, he won’t last long as a starter in GABP. Cingrani’s young and competative.”

  25. Bless Dusty’s stubborn little heart and even less common sense.

    Devin Mesoraco and Todd Frazier have simply been lighting up the baseball diamond since the all star break. Frazier is hitting .429/.484/.643 and Mesoraco is hitting .429/.448/.750. Yowser!!! :mrgreen: In addition to the recent performance, Mesoraco is hitting .358/.452/.547 against LHP.

    Anyone want to guess who Dusty is not playing against the toughest LHP in the NL?

    • @Shchi Cossack: Frazier is listed in today’s lineup on espn.com. Do you see something different somewhere? As for Mesoraco….apparently Homer would rather try to get a W with 7 bats in the lineup. I wonder why he hates throwing to Mesoraco that much? And I wonder why Dusty is willing to hurt the other players on the roster by not putting the best offense out there.

      • @Eric the Red:

        Frazier is listed in today’s lineup on espn.com. Do you see something different somewhere?

        Nope, I was refering to Meso’s absence from the lineup.

        I hope Corky goes 3-4 with a HR, scores 3 runs and drives in 7 runs while catching a perfect game from Homer, but giving up an out every time through the lineup puts the team at a real disadvantage, especially against a very good team with the leading CY candidate on the mound against the Reds . This situation where Mesoraco is prohibited from catch Bailey is ridiculous. Corky can’t hit anywhere close to major league replacement level and he can’t catch anywhere near major league replacement level.

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