2013 Reds / Game Thread

Game Thread: Reds at Diamondbacks (6.23.13)

These first two games have not exactly gone how you and I would have liked. As has, unfortunately, come to be normal, there is a good deal of panic as a result. Let me tell you something: that panic is foolish. Certainly, some concern is merited in that the later in the season it gets, the harder deficits are to make up, but panic, ts this point is needless.

The Reds trail the Pirates just slightly now, and they will pass them back. The Reds are better than the Pirates. They may not pass the Cardinals. The Cardinals are a very good team. However, they do have their own brutal stretch coming. From July 25th through August 28th, the Cardinals play 37 games in 37 days (there is one day off, but also a double header with the Pirates). Included in that stretch are 8 games against the Pirates, 7 games against the Braves, and 6 games against the Reds. The Pirates also find themselves with a less than ideal post-All-Star Break schedule.

So don’t panic. I’ll eat my hat if the Reds don’t at least grab a wildcard spot, and the division is far from out of reach. Today’s Titanic Struggle pits Mat Latos (6-2, 3.20) against Randall Delgado (0-0, 4.00), who is making only his third appearance this year. I don’t have to tell you who I have in this game. Who do you have?

Go Redlegs.

1. Choo CF
2. Cozart SS
3. Votto 1B
4. Phillips 2B
5. Bruce RF
6. Frazier 3B
7. Paul LF
8. Mesoraco C
9. Latos RHP

297 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds at Diamondbacks (6.23.13)

  1. So far Gregorius has been up 3 times and has seen 3 pitches — will he swing at the first pitch from Chapman?

  2. Dear God, why are some of you panicking? The Reds are fine. Record is totally sustainable. Every metric agrees. I think some of you don’t know good baseball unless it comes in one particular shade of goodness.

    Reds are an excellent team. Stop the hand-wringing and enjoy it. I’ve said it before and will say it again, if you can’t enjoy a team this good, I don’t know why you’re following baseball.

      • @josephneely25: Right now they are pretty close to sucking. Do I expect to go on forever? Heck no, but to deny the obvious is not that commendable either.

        • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: 5-5 over last ten is not close to sucking. Find me a team that doesn’t have stretches like this. (Hint: you can’t, I looked last year, even WS teams usually have a few weeks where they play terribly.)

        • @Jason Linden: Yeah, but I watch the “games” and they are close to sucking. Just my opinion, right or wrong. Great pitching covers up a lot of crappy play and it has. The offense is offensive, right now. I expect it to pick-up come Tuesday, in Oakland, because I am an optimist at heart. Love my Reds but enough is enough. Hit the ball for God’s sake. Everyone looks like they want to hit HRs right now but most are not equipped.

    • @Jason Linden: Amen to this. For all the people who are saying that teams like the Pirates are legit and the Reds are not, and that on this board, please realize the Reds have the third best record in baseball. Currently missing starting LF, backup outfielder, and quite a few RP’s.

      It sucks to lose games you should win, but it happens like last night.

    • @Jason Linden: You’re nuts! The inability to manufacture offense, situational hit and generally maximize their opportunities has been a problem for four years. This isn’t a bad stretch! It’s been that way for a long time, holding us back! We thought maybe it was just Stubbs, but clearly it runs deeper than that. This a wonderful starting rotation attached to a kinda crappy team. And yeah, that’s incredibly frustrating to watch!

    • Dear God, why are some of you panicking? The Reds are fine. Record is totally sustainable. Every metric agrees. I think some of you don’t know good baseball unless it comes in one particular shade of goodness.

      Reds are an excellent team. Stop the hand-wringing and enjoy it. I’ve said it before and will say it again, if you can’t enjoy a team this good, I don’t know why you’re following baseball.

      I refuse to accept poor decission making…

  3. So tired of this crap, Chapman IS not a closer, either send him down to learn how to pitch or trade him.

  4. So Chappy getting a rep as a headhunter. For the life of me, I can’t understand it.

    Chappy got it done.

    Go Reds!!!!

  5. Hopefully the Cards can continue their death spiral tonight and the Reds can gain a game in the standings.

  6. And this one belongs to the Reds! Piece of cake, easy as pie, easy as fallin’ outta bed. (Note sarcasm font) On to Oakland and a meet and greet with Chris Heisey. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

    • That Chapman inning was 50% bad luck, 30% bad umping, and 20% bad pitching.

      Wow…guess we were not watching the same game. To me same old Chapman, Mr. 100mph thinking he can just rare back and throw it by people…not a pitcher but thrower

  7. Actually, just calling it as we see it. … Reds, except for Latos and Parra, didn’t really deserve this win.

  8. A win’s a win, even when frustrating.

    The thing I don’t get is bringing in Chapman with 3 run leads. Yesterday, I fully support Baker in bringing him in to face 3-4-5 with a 1 run lead, and leaving him in.

    Today, as with all three run leads, it doesn’t make any sense to me to bring in Chapman with a 3 run lead and 7-8-9 coming up. Just general principles, the guy is fairly binary. I bring in a more consistent guy, such as Lecure. You don’t need to strike out the side when you are up by 3.

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: I’ve often thought of that, with a 3 run lead I’m more comfortable with a guy who is more consistent than Chapman and in particular more consistent at throwing strikes.

      I think Chapman is the best reliever on the team, but as you say, he’s either 1-2-3 or he often gets into trouble. I wonder how much has to do with having problems pitching out of the stretch.

  9. Oh, and, a huge thank you to Mat Latos. You cannot ignore missing bats, when a guy K’s 13 there’s much less opportunity, for, say, the pitcher to get a bloop hit before a dinger (like yesterday). Leake pitched great yesterday, but I’m just saying that missing bats is really important. This is why I’d much rather have Mat Latos than Mike Leake, even though Leake’s results are better so far this year. (This is not anything anti-Leake, more pro-Latos and pro-strikeouts.)

  10. I agree with getting Chap into this game in any way possible, just to get the taste of last night out of his mouth. Not that today’s appearance was a gangbusters success. But he got through it, and it may pay dividends. Or it may not.

    I’m with Dusty on this one.

    • @RC: Yes I’m OK with the use of Chapman today, getting him back on the horse. But generally speaking, with a 3 run lead, see above.

      • @pinson343: Yeah, the 3 run save rule is silly, but of course we know Dusty + “Save situation” = Chapman.

        That said, TODAY I’d have put Chap in even if it was still 4-0.

  11. I look at it like this: guys are going to give up x number of runs in a season. I’d rather have Chapman give up some of those yearly runs in a game like today than in a one run game—plus he needs to get back on the horse after last night like RC and pinson343 said.

    I was happy to see Parra contribute. He seems like a project that might be beginning to turn it around (ala Alfredo Simon) with Mr. Price’s help.

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