2013 Reds / Game Thread

Game Thread: Brewers at Reds (2013.06.15)

The Reds and Brewers are back at it again today in an early evening game.  Can the Reds win another game against the Brewers?  I think so.  But let’s make it less dramatic, shall we?

Cheer for the Reds to Go yet again.  And if you have the energy, pull for the Marlins to win again today too.

115 thoughts on “Game Thread: Brewers at Reds (2013.06.15)

  1. Reds crack medical staff strikes again!!! Broxton to 15 day DL for elbow. Maybe Dusty “sneaking” him out there against the Cubbies wasn’t a good idea? Oh wait, we already decided that it wasn’t…

  2. In other news Cingrani might get to stay in the pen where he will obviously perfect those secondary pitches:

    Cueto (lat) set to return from DL on Sunday

    Johnny Cueto (lat) will return from the disabled list on Sunday.
    Cueto will be activated when first eligible and start Sunday against the Brewers. He returns to a 2.17 ERA over six starts this season. Reds manager Dusty Baker said that it’s ”possible” Tony Cingrani will remain on the roster in a bullpen role.
    Source: C. Trent Rosecrans on Twitter

    Leaving the Reds with no ready made starters to call up in the minors, unless you count Galaragga. And stunting Cingrani’s development. Where have we seen this before?

        • @OhioJim: To clarify, maybe the bullpen/ “6th starter” choice comes down to Reynolds and Cingrani. If necessary, promote Reynolds to the Reds and use him out of the pen and let Cingrani go down and keep starting. Alternately buy out Reynolds escape clause and leave Cingrani in Cincny working out of the pen.

  3. I really, really dislike Baker, but Cingrani going to the pen is not his decision. It would be a poor decision by Jocketty to allow it to happen, especially when there are a few relievers in AAA and AA who could fill in for a while. I’m a big Jocketty believer, so I don’t think he’ll allow the Chapman debacle occur again if he can help it.

    • @rhayex: With Broxton on the DL and the Reds calling up Villareal, I think they almost have to keep Cingrani. Villareal is just insurance for today. But, it would not surprise me if the Reds pull off a trade. I think that is why Cingrani staying in the bullpen is a “possibility” at this point. Jocketty may be working the phones hard trying to swing a deal. If a deal does come to fruition, Cingrani would be sent back to AAA to continue to start.

      • @RedForever: Agreed. I had the perverse thought the other day that some of those Cubbies were pitching their tail ends off in that long game in hopes that WJ or some other contending GM would notice.

      • @RedForever: I fully support putting Tony C. in the pen, at least until Marshall is back. The Reds have been hamstrung with only one lefty in the pen, and it being Parra, and Chapman limited to the 9th inning or later. Cingrani was a reliever in college, so going back and forth a bit should not be an issue for him. I have no worries the Reds will leave him there, with Arroyo likely leaving after this year and Homer being Homer (i.e., a harder-throwing version of Arroyo: no consistency).

    • @CaptainTonyKW: But it is a slippery slope to try and move a guy back and forth within a season, Not so much so to take him from the rotation to the pen as moving him back the other way if the pen stint goes on over a couple of weeks.

  4. the way things have been going for the reds lately it seems lke today would be an automatic W and tomorrow would be an automatic L right?

  5. What’s been up with CoCo Cordero? did he instanly drop out of baseball when the reds didn’t resign him? one of the reds better moves…..not resigning CoCo

  6. What’s been up with CoCo Cordero? did he instanly drop out of baseball when the reds didn’t resign him? one of the reds better moves…..not resigning CoCo

    • @zab1983: No, he put up a 7.55 ERA last year and is now out of baseball. That was the single worst move Jocketty ever made, offering him a contract. Thankfully he turned it down.

      • @Hank Aarons Teammate: WJ has made some superb moves (Latos, Choo, Paul, Simon, Hoover) but he’s made some moves that didn’t work out due to unforseeable circumstances and a lot of really bonehead moves. I don’t have a good feel for how well or poor GM transactions are in general, so I don’t know how to evaluate WJ’s performance on a broader scale.

        • @Shchi Cossack: Based on the results of the last three years and considering who is managing this club, Walt is absolutely indispensable.

  7. Well Votto’s rest is over. I hope he enjoyed it and put it to good use.

    The starting lineup for today:

    CF Choo
    SS Cozart
    1B Votto
    2B Phillips
    RF Bruce
    3B Frazier
    LF Paul
    C Hanigan
    P Bailey

  8. Calling up Villareal, even for a day, is idiotic. If he were to get into a game, you know what would happen.

    Moving Cingrani to the pen seems idiotic to me also. He needs to start. If he goes to the pen and has success, I could easily see the organization re-signing Arroyo and having Cingrani in the pen full time next year. If we’re talking just a week or so, I’m fine with it, but what if Marshall has a setback?

      • @Shchi Cossack: I smells of a move of desperation. There just isn’t anyone in the minors to bring up. The signing of Zach Duke tells us how desperate the Reds are.

        I’m telling you, there is a trade coming. Book it!

    • @Hank Aarons Teammate: I think Villarreal only sees the field if Bailey has one of his periodic meltdowns and there is no hope of wining the game. He is insurance to keep from burning someone else in that situation.

      Tomorrow Cueto takes Villarreal’s spot and then we hold our breaths and wait to see what happens next with Cingrani.

      I agree with the comment below that it is desperation time.

    • I have to imagine Villareal is here just in case a long reliever is needed. Simon, Partch and LeCure would not be up for the task.

      Calling up Villareal, even for a day, is idiotic. If he were to get into a game, you know what would happen.Moving Cingrani to the pen seems idiotic to me also. He needs to start. If he goes to the pen and has success, I could easily see the organization re-signing Arroyo and having Cingrani in the pen full time next year. If we’re talking just a week or so, I’m fine with it, but what if Marshall has a setback?

  9. Poor Zack runs like his feet are killing him. Has there ever been a Reds team with less team speed than this one?

  10. opposing team’s catchers have killed us this year.
    Why would you ever throw a fastball to francisco?

  11. Jeez what is going. Super Todd pulling off every single pitch that AB. At least he hustled down the line.

  12. Miami responds to the Cardinals’ five runs in the first inning with four of their own off Lance Lynn. Now Cardinals have another run in the second already.

  13. We are a veryyyyyyyy slow baseball team. Two outs and Todd doesn’t even consider going to third on that hit. Good thing he didn’t either. Hani is going to have to hit one in the gap to score Frazier from second.

  14. Broxton goes on the DL today, backdated to June 13.

    The Reds used him in the 14th inning on Thursday, even though they knew he was hurt. They used him instead of Aroldis Chapman. The Reds used a player they knew was injured ahead of a player who is completely healthy.

    Not only is there something seriously wrong with that, but it also potentially adds four days to Broxton’s time away from the team. If he hadn’t pitched on Sunday, they could have backdated his DL stint to June 9.

    Broxton will miss the entire Oakland A’s series and the first two games of the Texas Rangers series because of that.

    All to prevent Aroldis Chapman from maybe pitching two innings.

  15. Future Reds LF Stanton with the game-tying HR against the WLBs! He knows who the good guys are.

  16. Is that singing legend Country Joe West behind the plate? If it is he’ll be looking to get some face time.

  17. We’re so spoiled by this starting rotation, one bad start feels kinda shocking.. Imagine if this team had a consistent approach at the plate, a bench or a bullpen!

    • We’re so spoiled by this starting rotation, one bad start feels kinda shocking.. Imagine if this team had a consistent approach at the plate, a bench or a bullpen!

      The bench and bullpen can be fixed if Jocketty would do his job. The other…that never changes.

  18. Why do you ever throw a fastball to Juan Francisco? Especially up in the zone. Homer just not thinking as well as not sharp.

  19. Homer getting shelled. unfortunately, only Parra and Villareal are probably the only pitchers available. Homer is going to have to be the sacrificial lamb today.

  20. Maybe…we should just pitch around Juan Francisco? We seem to be the only ball club who cannot get him out.

    • @wildwestLV: Reds pitchers are the only team to put a fastball in the zone. Much like the character in the movie Major League “hit fastball very well, curve ball not so much. I ask Jobu to help.”

  21. Today Homer is doing whats known as “pitching to contact” solid contact from the looks of it.

  22. Everything Homer is throwing today is up except the breaking ball in the dirt for the first run. Looks to have no confidence.

  23. What do u guys think about ex Giants closer Brian Wilson later in the season? Broxton might be done, elbow soreness usually doesn’t have a happy ending

    • @zab1983: Yeah, but the Reds office won’t see it that way. No Wilson for Walt. We’ll just screw around with the likes of Parra, Villarreal, & Partch, until we’re officially out of it. Save lots of $ though.

      • @zab1983: Yeah, but the Reds office won’t see it that way. No Wilson for Walt. We’ll just screw around with the likes of Parra, Villarreal, & Partch, until we’re officially out of it. Save lots of $ though.

        He did “go out” and get Zach Duke! World Series Championship, here we come!

  24. Joe West is an absolute disgrace of an umpire. His ball-strike calls today are terrible. Gallardo’s second pitch to XP was right down the middle (called a ball).

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