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Down on the Farm: 2013 Draft Day 1 Edition

Games Played on 6/6/2013

2013 Draft: With three selections in the first two rounds yesterday, the Reds selected
– 1st round – CF Phillip Ervin, Samford University
– 1A round – RHP/OF Michael Lorenzen, Cal-State Fullerton
– 2nd round – 3B Kevin Franklin, Gahr High School (CA)

Draft rounds 3-10 continue today, beginning at 12:30pm ET. The final 30 rounds of the draft will conclude on Saturday, beginning at 1:00pm ET.

Minor League Player of the Day: Lee Hyde pitched in both games of a double header, combining for 3 shutout innings. Hyde picked up a hold with one inning of perfect relief in game 1. He earned a two inning save in pitching the final two innings of game 2.

AAA
Norfolk 9 – Louisville 3

It was a rough night in Louisville for starting pitcher Daniel Corcino. In 4.2 innings, he allowed 5 runs, 10 hits, walked 2 and struck out 3. In his first game back from suspension, Jose Arredondo allowed 4 runs on 2 hits and 2 walks in 1.2 innings. Corky Miller pitched a perfect 8th AND 9th innings to save the bullpen. It’s his second relief appearance of the year.

Emmanuel Burriss (4-for-4, 2B, R, RBI) had four of the Bats 10 hits. Denis Phipps and Kristopher Negron had two hits each.


AA
Game 1: Pensacola 2 – Montgomery 1

Pensacola scored twice in the 6th inning on a Travis Mattair single. Mattair (1-for-2, BB, 2 RBI) was the only Blue Wahoo to reach base twice.

Josh Smith only allowed 1 unearned run over 5 innings. He allowed 5 hits, walked 4 and struck out 4. Lee Hyde and Loek Van Mil shutout the biscuits over the final two innings.

Game 2: Pensacola 6 – Montgomery 5

Theo Bowe (2-for-3, HR, SB, 2 R, 2 RBI) broke a 5-5 tie in the 6th inning with a solo homerun. Ray Chang (2-for-3, BB, R, 2 RBI) also had two hits.

Shaun Ellis allowed 4 runs on 6 hits and 2 walks in his 2.1 inning start. Lee Hyde shutout the biscuits for the final two innings to preserve the win. Hyde hasn’t allowed a run over his last 8 outings, a span of 9 innings, dating back to May 19th.

High A
Bakersfield 5 – Lake Elsinore 2

Carlos Contreras only allowed 1 unearned run in his 5 innings of work. He allowed 7 hits, walked 3 and struck out one.

Juan Perez was 2-for-3 with a walk, a double, a solo homerun and two runs scored. Juan Silva (1-for-2, BB, 3B, R, RBI) also reached base twice. Chris Berset added a solo homerun in the 7th.

Low A
Bowling Green 6 – Dayton 1

Jesse Winker (.313/.419/.531) has a six game hitting streak after hitting a single, a triple and walking in four plate appearances. Joe Hudson also had two hits.

Sal Romano allowed 4 runs on 6 hits and two walks, while striking out 4 over 5 innings.

20 thoughts on “Down on the Farm: 2013 Draft Day 1 Edition

  1. It had to be frustrating last night for the Reds brass. Sitting at #27 they watch two guys they wanted get drafted right before their pick. McKinney went to Oakland at #24 and Jagielo went to NYY at #26. But this guy Ervin, some mock drafts had him going in the late teens. A good pick no matter.

  2. I know absolutely nothing about any of the three selections. But, from reading the experts, the Reds may have stolen one in the first round. He would have likely gone higher if he didn’t play with an injured ankle this year.

    I’m not sure about the 1C pick. I suppose it’s how they plan to use him, but I don’t understand this pick. There was plenty of quality pitching left on the board. He’s good at pitching and OF, but not a top 100 in either. He can only do one or the other in the majors, so this doesn’t make sense to me. Especially if he winds up being a reliever. But this is the same team that drafted Boxberger, a reliever with a 1C a few years ago.

    It looks like the Reds drafted Neftali Soto again, but this time in a round higher than they did last time. A 3B slugger who is projected to play 1st.

    My only comfort with the 2nd two picks is that the Reds scouting department is the best. They must know something that has not made it’s way into what I’ve read so far.

    • @TC: I agree with all your points. In general, the organization is doing pretty well and I’m happy to give them slack, but I don’t like a jack of all trades/master of none.

    • I’m not sure about the 1C pick. I suppose it’s how they plan to use him, but I don’t understand this pick. There was plenty of quality pitching left on the board.

      Yeah, this is the one pick that kinda befuddled me too, but the Reds’ recent track record for early round pitching (and I think the Reds look at this selection as a pitcher more than a CF option) has been pretty solid. The Reds’ scouts certainly valued and elevated Lorenzen above other organizations.

  3. Corcino has had a rough year. I hope it’s because of adjustments he’s making and not that the level of competition has caught up with his stuff. The Reds will need him for depth next year. Stephenson and Travieso will not be ready until at least 2015.

    • @TC: I always considered Corcino a non-prospect given his peripherals, but man, only an injury can explain how terrible he’s been. BB/9 and K/9 are not meant to converge…

    • @TC: Another potential explanation is that he’s just failing in moving up the chain. Aside from his bad peripherals in most minor league years, every time a pitcher moves up, there’s a chance he’ll never make it at that level or higher.

  4. I think Lorenzen was the best pick of the three. Like others, I trust the Reds’ scouting dept. Everyone one of the first rounders from 2003-2010 are now in the majors, plus the second rounder from ’02 and their high picks from the past two drafts(Stephenson, Travieso, Winker, Gelalich) all look like excellent picks.

    But for what it’s worth, Ervin, to me, is essentially another Ryan Freel. An outfield only, more power less steals Ryan Freel. A Ryan Freel isn’t a bad player to have on your ball club, a guy who you can plug in to be an electric-type player, a blue-collar go balls to the wall every pitch player…but that’s a first round pick on what amounts to a fourth outfielder. Yes he hit for power in the Cape, has had 3 consecutive seasons of excellent batting averages and everyone says his bat speed is ridiculous, so maybe I am wrong. But count me in with the people who doubt the ceiling of a 5’10 power hitting outfielder. Here’s to him becoming the Dustin Pedroia of the outfield.

    But the Lorenzen pick is excellent, especially as a pitcher. You can’t teach 99, and this kid throws it. You can learn other pitches. I mean Clayton Kershaw broke in as a fastball-12 6 curveball pitcher and now he works almost exclusively with a slider…that he learned in spring training. Now, I’m not saying Lorenzen is going to be Kershaw…but I’m not gonna say that he isn’t. The Reds will take their time with him, let him start, and hope for another Cingrani. At the very least, we have a reliever in our system that throws straight cheddar that could move quickly.

    This Kevin Franklin kid is an interesting pick. I hadn’t read or heard anything about him prior to the draft, but no one seem particularly surprised when the Reds made the pick. He’s another player like Ervin, crazy gritty and plays hard always. His measurements are 6’1 220, so he’s a big, thick kid. Maybe he moves to first, but they drafted him as a third baseman. And that’s where he’ll start. Maybe he loses weight? I like it though. A lot can happen with that kid, and power doesn’t grow on trees. It’ll be interesting if he’ll be signed away from Arizona State.

    • @hermanbates: I don’t want to peg Ervin as Ryan Freel just yet. Freel was a max effort, limited talent guy. I’m hoping Ervin has the talent to reach a higher ceiling. I’m also hoping that young Mr. Ervin learns that outfield walls aren’t just theoretical but real.

  5. I really like the Phillip Ervin selection in the 1st round, for whatever the Old Cossack’s opinion is worth. I understand the Reds are taking the best available, but they have certainly addressed some pending OF needs in the last 2 drafts. These two new additions hopefully join the Big Lutz and Jesse Winker as serious OF prospects.

    Speaking of which, now that the draft is nearing completion and the Reds have one premier OF candidate and another possible OF candidate in hand (albeit unsigned), someone needs to get off their duff and get Jesse Winker promoted to Bakerfield so he can start seeing some more advanced pitching.

    For the season at A- Dayton, Winker is hitting .313/.419/.531 with 8 HR, 38 SO (16.7%), & 33 BB (14.5%).
    For the past month Winker is hitting .340/.443/..588 with 5 HR, 19 SO (16.5%), & 17 BB (14.8%).

    Those aren’t just good numbers. Those are great numbers in every aspect and manner of evaluation. This is the type of hitter the Reds need to develop and promote. He is the complete package, at least until he proves otherwise. Jesse Winker has nothing left to prove or learn at A- ball. His skills and development has simply surpassed the talent level at A- ball.

  6. This is good reading guys. HS and collegiate prospects are not something I have really any familiarity with. I generally don’t start looking at players until after they start working at a professional level, so the insight provided here is valuable to me.

  7. Another nice looking pickup in the 3rd round: Mark Armstrong, a 6’2″ 210# high school RHP with 3 good-quality pitches (fast ball, curve ball & changeup). Not a fireballer like Stephenson but rather a young, stockier Arroyo or Leake type of hurler. He will need some experience, but he has a pretty strong foundation already with his limited experience playing baseball. His physique made him both a pretty serious hockey and football player through high school. With a little bit of tutelage and a lot of focus, Armstrong could prgress quickly to AA before the hitting talent challenges his repertoire of quality pitches.

    • @ToddAlmighty: I don’t think the Reds are necessarily drafting R or L, but have you looked at their major league lineup lately? There is a distinct LH flavor to the major league hitters. Of course that may change after this season when Choo leaves as a FA. Even their best OF prospects (Winker and Lutz) hit LH, although Smith (RH) is having another very good season in AA, but he does not factor in as a corner OF due to his lack of power.

      • @Shchi Cossack: Yeah, most of that LH is temp players. Choo (sadly), Izturis (hopefully), Hannahan. Then you have Ludwick and Heisey coming back (both RH).

        If you look at who you can reasonably expect to be back next season that’s a lefty, you have Votto, Bruce, Paul. As for righties you have Ludwick, Phillips, Heisey, Frazier, Cozart, Hanigan, Mesoraco. Then you have Robinson and Hamilton fighting for spots next season as switch hitters.


        But really what I was going at for the no southpaw love was more about pitchers than hitters. Cueto, Latos, Bailey, Leake all righties. Bronson will be gone next year cashing out on his last seasons with some absurd payroll team. Presumably Cingrani will come in.

        I just think that when Parra keeps getting put out there over and over with his 8+ ERA, it’s time to get some good left handed pitchers in the farm system.

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