2013 Reds

Sean Marshall placed on DL; Logan Ondrusek recalled

So there you go. Sean Marshall has been placed on the disabled list and Logan Ondrusek was recalled from AA Pensacola.

This whole situation really kinda irritates me. Marshall has been having problems for a long time. At any time, they could have put him on the DL retroactive to March 28. Instead, they kept him on the roster, which meant they have been playing short-handed for the entire season thus far. Once again, the Reds were voluntarily playing short-handed, all for the one single inning that Marshall has pitched this year. How many times have we seen that?

Sigh…

Even worse, there is a huge step-down in quality and effectiveness from Marshall to Ondrusek. Seems like Jose Arredondo would have made more sense.

30 thoughts on “Sean Marshall placed on DL; Logan Ondrusek recalled

  1. Arredondo is the superior pitcher against leftys. Ondrusek makes less sense in this situation. Parra only left handed reliever now, besides Chapman.

    • @rdcgRed:

      Chapman is the closer, which means he’ll never be used as an actual ‘reliever’.

      For all intents and purposes, Parra is our only lefty now.

      • @Prime: I’m presuming that the Reds intend to place Ryan Ludwick on the 60-day DL, opening up a roster spot.

        Thats really the only alternative the Reds have without exposing someone to the waiver wire, is it not?? Whomever would get placed off the 40-man roster would be claimed off waivers pretty quickly I’m sure. Can’t compound the mismanagement any further by losing a quality player thru waivers just for this roster move.

  2. Don’t understand Logan at all. Not unless Arredondo still has things to work on. But, coming out of ST, I thought he was one of the hot pitchers. Maybe something happened while in Louisville?

    But, Good Lord, get an MRI done. Do something. Scope the dang thing if you have to. Make sure what the problem is going on in there. I heard it was some deep tissue. I just hope it’s not the rotator cuff.

  3. The Reds disinformation machine brings on all this second guessing! Just DL the guy in spring training and bring someone else north….

  4. As I said on a different thread, I fully expect Ondrusek to step right into Lecure’s high leverage innings. Lecure is way better, but Baker likes Ondrusek more. It’s ridiculous.

  5. Arredondo was clearly a better choice. He’s not on the 40 man, the Reds always make a big deal of that, even if they can clear a spot with an injured player.

    This is not good for Ondrusek either. He was working with Tom Browning at AA, and needed more time there.

    The good news: no structural damage for Marshall. (But they said the same about Masset at first.)

  6. I guess this doesn’t seem like quite as big a deal to me as it does to some people. It’s unfortunate that Marshall hasn’t improved, but I’m glad the MRI didn’t show any damage to his arm. Hopefully he’ll be back, good as new, in 15 days.

    The Reds seem to mostly be without a guy who’s particularly good at getting lefties out, with Manna Parra’s role seemingly to be a mopup man. Ondrusek over Arredondo, I’m fine with it, it’s pretty much a wash, in my opinion. Arredondo can get lefties out but walks tons of guys while Ondrusek has gone on streaks where he pitches really well.

    I’m glad the Reds are back to a fully-staffed bullpen but I’ll be looking forward to Marshall’s return.

  7. So far in AAA Jose Arredondo has pitched in 2 games for a total of 3 innings. He’s allowed 1 hit, 2 ER, and 4 walks. If he hasn’t been able to throw strikes it probably explains why he wasn’t promoted.

  8. Once again, the Reds screw up roster management with an injured player and possibly early diagnosis. It can’t be this difficult.

  9. Not that I would consider him a qualifed candidate, but, why waste a 40 man roster spot on Pedro Villarreal who is LH and never going to be with the big club? Why not have someone else in that spot that you would consider ready. Bad roster management.

  10. Well, look on the bright (??!!) side – had Chapman been kept in the rotation, this could have been the thing that got him moved back to the pen after one start. At which point, the sound of popping aneurisms would have audible all over the Tri-state.

    Including mine…

    • @RC: I think Tony Cingrani remaining in AAA is the finest example of how seriously the Reds take this situation – not very – they expect Marshall back in 15 days. Not worth making a big change, not worth messing things up. If Marshall’s injury doesn’t influence Cingrani I doubt it’d cause a change under the circumstances you described.

  11. I get so tired of the Reds playing short-handed for days at a time and the medical staff screwing up their diagnosis of injured players. It’s like Groundhog Day with every injury.

    • @Bill Lack: Injuries when a bone breaks in two (or a shoulder gets dislocated) are so much more straight forward. Fortunately the Reds haven’t had many problems like that.

  12. Sean Marshall is more than “good at getting lefties out.” He’s one of the top relievers in the entire game. He had the 12th best WAR of all relievers (including closers) last year. He’s an extreme ground ball pitcher. Marshall gave up fewer walks and fewer home runs than Chapman. Even at that, he suffered from unusually bad luck – a BABIP of .325 (the highest of his career).

    I realize that the way he gets used and treated by his manager doesn’t reflect his true elite status, but we shouldn’t compound that problem by thinking of him as a LOOGY.

    This is a big blow to the bullpen if you care about quality pitching.

    • Sean Marshall is more than “good at getting lefties out.” He’s one of the top relievers in the entire game. He had the 12th best WAR of all relievers (including closers) last year. He’s an extreme ground ball pitcher. Marshall gave up fewer walks and fewer home runs than Chapman. Even at that, he suffered from unusually bad luck – a BABIP of .325 (the highest of his career).

      I realize that the way he gets used and treated by his manager doesn’t reflect his true elite status, but we shouldn’t compound that problem by thinking of him as a LOOGY.

      This is a big blow to the bullpen if you care about quality pitching.

      Last time I checked a closer is a reliever.

  13. Fay reported that they considered Cingrani but they were going to stick to the plan and keep him as a starter. Baker was quoted as adamant about keeping him a starter in case one his starters go down, he would the first one called. I had to chuckle at that a little, in reference to that other small story about a plan during spring training that we won’t mention.

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