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  1. Entertaining!
    Some remarks on my part:
    -Devin Mesoraco, IF he gets sent to AAA it doesn’t have to be a permanent thing you know. Maybe he’ll start most of the games in Louisville for a few weeks, hit really well, and get returned to the Reds. I think a lot of people, including you guys, are wrongly assuming that the guy who makes the opening day roster (Mesoraco or Olivo) will hold that job long term or all season.

    -I think the Reds still see Mesoraco as a long term solution to play everyday, Miguel Olivo as a one year part time stopgap. Olivo is a guy who’d get designated for assignment if he struggles rather than somebody they’re committed to.

    -JJ Hoover, same thing, he could very well be cut from the opening day roster but he doesn’t need to stay in AAA for long. Todd Frazier spent last opening day in Louisville but didn’t stay there long.

    -Manny Parra, I’d still be shocked if he makes the team.

    • Entertaining!
      Some remarks on my part:
      -Devin Mesoraco, IF he gets sent to AAA it doesn’t have to be a permanent thing you know.Maybe he’ll start most of the games in Louisville for a few weeks, hit really well, and get returned to the Reds.I think a lot of people, including you guys, are wrongly assuming that the guy who makes the opening day roster (Mesoraco or Olivo) will hold that job long term or all season.

      -I think the Reds still see Mesoraco as a long term solution to play everyday, Miguel Olivo as a one year part time stopgap.Olivo is a guy who’d get designated for assignment if he struggles rather than somebody they’re committed to.

      Again, it’s not what we think if Devin starts in AAA. It’s how Devin will take it. I know if I was Devin, I would take it as a demotion regardless of however anyone spins it. Sure, the club may not look at it as such. But, if the player isn’t happy with it, all the more we may lose him when his contract comes due, leaving us hanging. That is, IF he doesn’t make the major league club.

      • Again, it’s not what we think if Devin starts in AAA.It’s how Devin will take it.I know if I was Devin, I would take it as a demotion regardless of however anyone spins it.Sure, the club may not look at it as such.But, if the player isn’t happy with it, all the more we may lose him when his contract comes due, leaving us hanging.That is, IF he doesn’t make the major league club.

        Don’t get me wrong. I can understand how AAA wouldn’t necessarily be a demotion. I only specified how many players would/could/have taken the trip to AAA after playing a full season in the majors.

    • Entertaining!
      Some remarks on my part:
      -Devin Mesoraco, IF he gets sent to AAA it doesn’t have to be a permanent thing you know.Maybe he’ll start most of the games in Louisville for a few weeks, hit really well, and get returned to the Reds.I think a lot of people, including you guys, are wrongly assuming that the guy who makes the opening day roster (Mesoraco or Olivo) will hold that job long term or all season.

      ** But the point is, sending him to AAA doesn’t make the Reds better. The only possible advantage Olivo has over Mesoraco is power and Dusty doesn’t use his #2 catcher to pinch hit, so that negates that advantage. Plus, the Reds would have to make a 40 man move to put Olivo on the big squad, which I don’t see them doing.

      -JJ Hoover, same thing, he could very well be cut from the opening day roster but he doesn’t need to stay in AAA for long.Todd Frazier spent last opening day in Louisville but didn’t stay there long.

      ** I think the difference with Frazier and Hoover is Frazier got caught in a numbers game, when injuries hit the bullpen and the Reds signed Simon late. I think Hoover’s going to be hurt by having options and not making enough money.

    • -Manny Parra, I’d still be shocked if he makes the team.

      I doubt that the Reds signed him to a $1 million guaranteed contract for a spring training tryout.

      • I doubt that the Reds signed him to a $1 million guaranteed contract for a spring training tryout.

        This is troubling.

  2. Great podcast guys! Love the new “live” format, and the addition of Doug.

    Regarding Hoover, though, I agree with Redsfanman. There is no reason to worry about who is left off the opening day roster. As soon as any pitcher (starter or reliever) gets hurt, he is back in Cinci. The more important story here is what great pitching depth we have.

  3. I think the point is that Devin Mesoraco is CLEARLY better than Olivo. JJ Hoover is CLEARLY better than Ondrusek. These should be easy choices (in a vacuum).

    • I think the point is that Devin Mesoraco is CLEARLY better than Olivo. JJ Hoover is CLEARLY better than Ondrusek. These should be easy choices (in a vacuum).

      Agreed. So, put I don’t quite understand the logic of putting Devin down at AAA to play everyday, allowing a worse catcher to start 2 of 5 games with the big club.

      • Agreed.So, put I don’t quite understand the logic of putting Devin down at AAA to play everyday, allowing a worse catcher to start 2 of 5 games with the big club.

        I think Olivo would be asked to catch more like 1 out of 5 games with more pressure/playing time put on Ryan Hanigan. Hopefully Mesoraco would get off to a hot start offensively and quickly earn a promotion so he can burst onto the scene like Todd Frazier did in 2012. At least that’s what I’d hope for if Mesoraco starts in AAA. Otherwise he won’t get much of a chance to make an impression, playing 2 out of 5 games.

        I doubt that the Reds signed him to a $1 million guaranteed contract for a spring training tryout.

        I think they paid $1m to bring in a veteran lefty reliever as a contingency plan, just in case something goes wrong like it did last year with Madson, Masset, and Bray. I think the Reds will need to be struck by several injuries to give Parra a roster spot. Or an injury to Sean Marshall or Jose Arredondo (the lefty and the honorary lefty… who throws right handed).

  4. I really doubt Olivo will start in the major league, because it would not only require them to cut a player from the 40 man immediately, but it would also result in the loss of significant roster flexibility. Specifically, Mes’s eventual promotion would then require that Olivo accept a demotion to AAA or be cut loose himself (because of Olivo’s seniority). Thus, promoting Mes later in the season would require the Reds to lose there best option in case of catcher injury. It just makes no practical sense unless Olivo is the MUCH better option, which most of us (and the Reds) seem to agree isn’t the case.

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