Loading ...Tony Cingrani has been announced as the Opening Day* starter for the Cincinnati Reds.
*Opening Day of the Cactus League schedule in Goodyear, Arizona, obviously. Cingrani will start Cincinnati’s first exhibition game tomorrow afternoon.
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Your Opening Day starter for the Cincinnati Reds: Tony Cingraniby Chad Dotson on February 21st, 2013 in 2013 Reds
Tony Cingrani has been announced as the Opening Day* starter for the Cincinnati Reds. *Opening Day of the Cactus League schedule in Goodyear, Arizona, obviously. Cingrani will start Cincinnati’s first exhibition game tomorrow afternoon. Tags: Tony Cingrani |
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This won’t be so far-fetched in 2015. Cingrani is going to force Walt to make some sort of move next winter. I just hope that move is to the starting rotation and not a trade for something missing. I just have this feeling that the Reds won’t keep both Cueto and Bailey after 2013. Both will be free agents after 2014. One will get an extension. One will get dealt.
@Sparky’s Ghost:
Cueto will not be a FA until 2016, unless his career completely tanks before then. The Reds have a club option for 2015. I can see no way the Reds extend Cueto beyond 2016. He will be 31 and rightfully looking for his last big contract, almost certainly beyond the Reds’ means.
I agree that the Reds will extend Bailey (and I really believe they are diligently trying to do this) or will begin looking to move him after this season.
The Bats could have a simply stacked starting rotation this season as compared to an entire staff of MLB retreads that started last season with the Bats. If Cingrani puts up numbers in AAA that are anything close to what he put up last season, he will be in Cincinnati’s starting rotation in 2014. If that’s the case, the Reds may have to move one of their existing starters, but that’s a whale of a good problem to have facing the team next season.
Keep in mind, Tony Cingrani has been successful every where he’s pitched – if he pitches well this spring he makes the Chapman conversion even more unlikely.
You are an odd duck, my friend. Barring some sort of absolute catastrophe, there is no way Cingrani makes the rotation over both Chapman and Leake. Even if Cingrani is lights out in the Spring, the Reds would have to be on the wrong side of crazy to pencil him in ahead of two pitchers who have had success at the Major League level. Instead of naysaying the Chapman to the rotation move every chance you get, whether the post on which you comment is related or not (see: <a href="http://redlegnation.com/2013/02/18/say-hello-to-the-2013-redleg-annual/" title=" this"), why not just sit back and enjoy the fact that the Reds even have such a wonderful problem to begin with.
Will moving Chapman to the rotation weaken the Reds bullpen? Yes. Will the damage inflicted be greater than the potential gains from Chapman moving to the roatation? Probably not. Admittedly, Broxton had a couple of less than stellar, albeit it injury induced, years. However, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pitch-to-watch-jonathan-broxtons-cutter-2/" title=" this" gives me hope that we may see something of the Broxton of old, as we did in September.
Sure, if Cingrani retires every batter he faces this spring, Chapman decides to defect back to Cuba, and Leake breaks his . . . . nevermind. I’m getting tired of this.
@redsfanman: Cingrani has no chance to make the team.
For me the interesting Chapman/ Cingrani is if come mid to late June, Cingrani has pitched like a world beater at AAA and Chapman is struggling in the MLB rotation, especially if the MLB squad looks like it needs a kick start of some sort.
I didn’t say Tony Cingrani would make the team on opening day, but he can provide a seventh starting pitcher worthy of five rotation spots. Dusty can cite that depth when returning Chapman to the closer role.
Whether Chapman ever enters the rotation or not, either way I think it’s likely that we’ll see Cingrani start a few games for the Reds sometimes this season. Maybe that means somebody gets hurt, maybe Chapman gets shut down after pitching 150 innings, maybe Leake loses a rotation spot after Tony Cingrani dominates in AAA, either way I expect Cingrani to start for the Reds sometime in 2013.
@battlerabbit: I was expressing support for Tony Cingrani, like I’ve done all winter. I think he’s already gotten the Reds’ attention, but so far he hasn’t gotten the attention of enough fans and scouts. I am glad they are letting him start the first spring training game, even if it doesn’t mean much.
I think the thing I am most excited about is the following statement from the initial post:
Cincinnati’s first exhibition game tomorrow afternoon.
That phrase makes me smile. Is it on WLW by any chance?
It appears that nearly all of the Reds games are listed to be on either WLW or WSAI. I didn’t recall the team airing so many of the games previously, though several were on mlb.com last spring.
I think tomorrow’s is WLW, yes….I’m wondering whether WLW’s feed is available online, because I’m not seeing it listed on mlb.com as part of the audio subscription …
And I totally borked the formatting. Whoopsies!
First link: http://redlegnation.com/2013/02/18/say-hello-to-the-2013-redleg-annual/
Second link: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pitch-to-watch-jonathan-broxtons-cutter-2/
I’ll shut up now.
The game is on WLW tomorrow and on MLB.com. I am in Goodyear and saw Marty today (with very short hair, no less) I’m very excited with the games beginning tomorrow. Some Observations (no surprises)of today’s workout: Joey Votto is all business. Brandon Phillips is fun to watch no matter what he is doing. Donald Lutz is a very big dude. Billy Hamilton is fast. Jay Bruce was very charming talking to a very little boy about how much to loved to play baseball. Todd Frazier is another really fun guy to interact with. I hope I see some interesting things in tomorrow’s game. I know there will be a lot of rookies playing.
@battlerabbit: Why would the Reds be crazy, in isolation, to pitch Cingrani over Leake? There’s a good argument that Leake is what he is, and is always going to be a subpar major league pitcher. Maybe he’ll find something this year, but it’s not like Leake is any kind of star. This is the way it goes in baseball, if you’re pitching lights out and are young, eventually you take someone’s spot.
I doubt Cingrani will make this an issue this spring, but one never knows.
Cingrani is an interesting player. He has all the buzz Cueto did when he came up. (Almost completely skipping AAA) And like Cueto, Volquez, and Leak all did, would have early success in the majors. The only difference, the Reds only had two real pitchers in 2008. They were looking to fill the remaining three spots. That is not the case anymore. You have 6 very good pitchers for 5 spots. There is no need to rush him like they did with Cueto or Bailey or Leake.
If you don’t think Ted Powers and Corky Miller can’t make Cingrani better, then you should be paying closer attention.
How does EVERY single post turn into a Chapman debate? It really is annoying.
I guess that’s what happens when a discussion is about a starting pitcher who might get some recognition, including Tony Cingrani. Chapman is the only one who’s allowed to get positive attention.
Last year in 146 minor league innings Cingrani had a 1.73 ERA, a .191 batting average allowed, and 172 strikeouts – I’m not sure why some people seem to be trying to write him off as irrelevant. He could have a good spring and make a big impression, as I said before. Chapman had a great spring last year? Maybe Cingrani will be the guy who stands out in 2013.
I think Cingrani should and will get sent to AAA but the likelihood of his getting promoted goes up, not down, as the season progresses.
I think Manny Parra, if anyone, should be worried about Cingrani.
Eh, I think Manny Parra is being considered only for a bullpen spot while they’ve made it clear that Cingrani will be starting… somewhere. I think they’ll keep him in AAA all year for rotation depth, if necessary. Parra should be worried about receiving a roster spot but guys like Jose Arredondo, Logan Ondrusek, and JJ Hoover seem like his biggest threats.
I wonder who Tony Cingrani will be facing today. I assume it’s a scrub lineup, with the Indians’ versions of Emmanuel Burriss, Cesar Izturis, and Dennis Phipps… rather than Swisher, Bourn, Brantley, and Stubbs.
I haven’t seen the Cleveland lineup yet, but the Reds don’t appear to be fielding a scrub lineup:
Choo 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Cozart 6
Hanigan 2
Olivo DH
Cingrani P
I haven’t seen a Cleveland lineup yet, but I wouldn’t call the Reds are starting a scrub lineup:
Choo 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Cozart 6
Hanigan 2
Olivo DH
Cingrani P
Whoops, sorry for the redun’DUNCE’y.
@Shchi Cossack: Oh, neat, maybe he is facing the Indians’ regulars. I wonder if Cingrani gets three innings or what. Hopefully he faces Drew Stubbs to see how that goes.
@redsfanman: I agree, I would like to see the C-Man match up against Bourn, Kipnis, Cabrera, Swisher and Stubbs.
@Shchi Cossack: I don’t think ‘the C-Man’ is a good title on (in no particular order) Cingrani, Cueto, and Chapman’s team.
Cingrani vs Brantley, Stubbs, and Reynolds – what better way is there to rack up strikeouts?
I haven’t seen a roster yet for the spring. Is Cingrani wearing #52 this year like he did in September?? I know he was #21 at Pennsacola at AA. Just wondering.