2013 Reds

Jay Bruce interested in long-term extension

Mark Sheldon is reporting that Reds’ right fielder Jay Bruce is interested in negotiating an extension that would essentially make him a Cincinnati Reds player for life.

Reds right fielder Jay Bruce has long-term commitments on his mind of late — both of the personal and professional variety.

In a couple of weeks, Bruce will make a lifetime commitment to his fiancee when the two celebrate their wedding day. On the baseball side of life, the 25-year-old would like to sign an extension that would enable him to possibly finish his career in Cincinnati.

Bruce is interested in adding another six years to the deal. The timing might seem odd since he is already under a contract that is guaranteed through 2016.

“[Bruce] made it clear that he wants to be a Red his entire career,” Bruce’s agent, Matt Sosnick, said. “[Joey] Votto is in his wedding in a couple of weeks and he wants to play with him. He has a lot of friends there. He and his fiancee are very comfortable in Cincinnati. Jay asked me to approach the team and see if something is there. We’ll see if the team has any interest.”

Bruce is already signed through his age-29 season in 2016. Plus the Reds have club option in 2017 for $13 million. JoeyMVP is signed through the 2024 season.

Bruce is coming off a 2012 season where he performed in line with 2011: .252/.327/.514. He hit 34 home runs and drove in 99. He was arguably the Reds 2012 MVP.

We know what Marty Brennaman thinks about this. What say you, Nation?

 

87 thoughts on “Jay Bruce interested in long-term extension

  1. I would like to offer Ichiro two years at 17 mil. I know…free agents that are old hardly ever pan out. That said, If the yanks dragged their feet, he MIGHT just be willing to play for another winning team. There is your leadoff hitter until Hamilton is ready. Oh…and he plays outfield. I’d play him in right where he belongs and move Bruce to center. I’d play Frazier in left…move cozart to third and play Gregorius at short. I’d try to convince Rolen to come back as a bat off the bench in the Cairo role if he could do it cheap enough. As if all that wouldn’t be controversial enough…I would unload salary to do it by trading Arroyo and his contract for good prospects. Rotation of Cueto Latos Chapman Bailey and Leake.

  2. 1] Suzuki
    2} Phillips
    3] Votto
    4} Frazier
    5} Bruce
    6] Cozart
    7] Hannigan
    8} Gregorius

    Rolen Stubbs Paul Mesoroco Rodriguez (so long Heisey…Stubbs late outfield replacement pinch runner… Rolen pinch hit play third late replacement move cozart to short if bat needed…Rodriguez switch hitter occassional day off for phillips. I think Paul proved he is a gamer)

  3. I’m in a quandary about Bruce, I agree with both side of the discussion on some points. One thing I do like is that he *wants* to have a long term career in Cincinnati. I think he fits well into the lineup and stadium and the other players seem to like playing with him for what that’s worth. But he is signed until he’s 29 and the dropoff starts a few years after that. I would like to see him raise his OBP but I’m still not convinced one can learn that. It seems a lot of guys get bumps in OBP then revert to old habits. I have absolutely zero data to back this up, just playing hunches so flame away if you want. 8-)

    One thing is this magical 100 RBI threshold. I don’t get that at all. RBI are lineup dependent, period. And Jay Bruce batted 4th/5th most of the year with the Major League leading OBP player ahead of him out for seven weeks. I’m pretty confident that if Votto was in the lineup for 160 games then Jay Bruce would have gotten at least 101 RBI’s, thus satisfying the criteria for a great slugger.

    Interesting stat on OBP: Stubb (.277) + Cozart (.288) combined (.565). Votto was .474. That’s only 9% more for TWO players. Put two .340 guys up there and I’m pretty sure Bruce is well over 100 RBI w/o Votto.

    Steve

  4. @rewquiop:

    Ichiro’s OBP combined last year was .307 plus he’s 38. I’m not sold on Stubbs by any means but I’d take him over Ichiro.

    And Phillips needs to bat 5th or 6th, he’s not a top of the order guy. I’d bat Frazier or gasp, Hanigan 2nd. I want guys on base for Votto so they can’t pitch around him as much. 2 out, bases empty is a guaranteed walk these days for Votto it seems.

    Steve

  5. If you switched gregorius and hannigan in the order…it would be dusty heaven with left and right alternating throughout the entire lineup.

  6. @slappy80528: Ichiro finished strong last year and he hardly ever strikes out. He runs the bases really well and is a veteran around a lot of youth. I’m a Stubbs fan too… but I’m tired of seeing him get as many at bats as he does. Ichiro is a true leadoff guy except for the walks. I can’t tell you how refreshing it would be to see a contact hitter in that lineup somewhere. As far as Hannigan second…whether its right or wrong…It’ll never happen…it just won’t.

    • @rewquiop: Aside from age and obviously deteriorating offensive numbers, Ichiro is not a CF. I would rather that Walt wait, keep his money in his pocket, and see if Ludwick or Ross or some other OF/3B solution comes calling. I am thinking that all of the first movers in this market have overpaid to this point.

  7. @rewquiop: Interesting idea to trade Arroyo. However, it can’t happen. For one thing, he has 10/5 rights, which means he can veto any trade. For another, his contract is structured such that if he were to be traded, he’d be owed a bunch of deferred salary immediately. I’m not sure how much it would be, but it would totally counteract any salary releif gained by trading him.

    Also, your idea of moving Cozart to third and starting Gregorious at short is interesting. That would be an outstanding defensive infield. But a horrible offensive one. Cozart does not hit anywhere near well enough to play third.

  8. In preparation for the rule 5 draft, WJ adjusted the 40 man roster, leaving one open slot. Ludwick should demand (and rightfully deserves) a 3-year contract on the open market, probably for $8MM per year. That’s out of the Reds’ budget. The same will apply to Cody Ross. Hamilton, Bourn, Upton & Pagan are absurdly over-budget for the Reds. Victorino may be possible if he slides & no one offers up a multiyear contract, but I hope the Reds pass on Victorino. If the Reds were at all interested in Ichiro, I think WJ would have pursued Pierre as a more viable (cheaper) option, so I think Ichiro is out too. That leaves pretty slim pickins on the FA market to fill an OF &/or leadoff position. Maybe WJ will try that lightning in a bottle thing again with Jason Bay, but he looks done to me. Could WJ stand pat, with just a possible utility OF &/or utility IF addition to the roster?

    #1] Paul (LF) v RHP & Stubbs CF v LHP
    #2] Heisey (LF) v LHP & Heisey (CF) v RHP
    #3] Votto (1B)
    #4] Frazier (3B)
    #5] Bruce (RF)
    #6] Phillips (2B)
    #7] Hanigan (C)
    #8] Cozart (SS)

    Would WJ even consider such an option for 2013?

    • In preparation for the rule 5 draft, WJ adjusted the 40 man roster, leaving one open slot.Ludwick should demand (and rightfully deserves) a 3-year contract on the open market, probably for $8MM per year.That’s out of the Reds’ budget.The same will apply to Cody Ross.Hamilton, Bourn, Upton &Pagan are absurdly over-budget for the Reds.Victorino may be possible if he slides & no one offers up a multiyear contract, but I hope the Reds pass on Victorino.If the Reds were at all interested in Ichiro, I think WJ would have pursued Pierre as a more viable (cheaper) option, so I think Ichiro is out too.That leaves pretty slim pickins on the FA market to fill an OF &/or leadoff position.Maybe WJ will try that lightning in a bottle thing again with Jason Bay, but he looks done to me.Could WJ stand pat, with just a possible utility OF &/or utility IF addition to the roster?

      #1] Paul (LF) v RHP & Stubbs CF v LHP
      #2] Heisey (LF) v LHP & Heisey (CF) v RHP
      #3] Votto (1B)
      #4] Frazier (3B)
      #5] Bruce (RF)
      #6] Phillips (2B)
      #7] Hanigan (C)
      #8] Cozart (SS)

      Would WJ even consider such an option for 2013?

      Any lineup that has Heisey as an everyday player is not going to happen. The Reds simply will not allow it.

  9. @AndyS: I think you may be underestimating the veteran leadership that the Phanatic could bring the club. Ever since the Dot Race was eliminated, things have been a mess.

  10. I don’t mind keeping Arroyo… Oh well. Contracts are so confusing to me. I love good infielders. As far as Cozart on third…I think between he and Rolen (every third day) it wouldn’t be too horrible as long as Stubbs is out of the lineup as often. Cozart hits some doubles every now and then.

  11. @AndyS: T-Roos is a tough call. One the one hand, he plays the game the right way; “He speaks softly and carries a big stick,” he says… On the other hand, I’m not sure that he’ll ever be the same after the McKinley assassination.

    Regarding the Phanatic, I know it’s a small sample size, but his parady of Lady Gaga was fantastic. That type of skillset ages well. Get it done, Walt.

  12. I don’t know how you can be having a mascot trade discussion and not bring up the Milwaukee Brewer. His professional sliding skills are unmatched and he does it all while holding an adult beverage (no spills). Plus, his mustache could easily replace what we would lose with Mr Redlegs.

  13. Could you imagine a mascot lineup of Mr Redlegs, the Brewer, and Teddy Roosevelt. The mustaches alone would make Corky Miller blush. I would give up Mr Red, Rosie, and Gapper in a heartbeat to make this happen.

  14. First, the Reds are NOT going to acquire Stanton from the Marlins. The Reds need a leadoff hitter, and Stanton isn’t a leadoff hitter. Trading Aroldis Chapman for Stanton is a Jim Bowden move but Walt Jocketty knows better – the Reds will go as far as the pitching carries them and a big bat won’t allow them to mash their way to success.

    Ludwick, I hope he doesn’t return for more than 5m.

    Heisey, he’s always been really overrated by certain Reds fans, he keeps getting chances to play more and he keeps blowing them.

    Ichiro, I think he’d be a reasonable gamble for LF if he accepts a cheap one year deal. He’s been a great hitter and might be able to rebuild his career as the Reds’ leadoff hitter in 2013. Get his OBP back up over .350 and it’ll be a success. He attracts attention name recognition more than any other outfielder mentioned.

    Victorino, I thought he was overrated last year and was hoping that the Reds wouldn’t trade for him. If the Reds can sign him for cheap, say $5m or 6m, I think he’s a reasonable candidate to hit leadoff. He IS a leadoff hitter to silence Dusty-critics who fans can’t argue should be placed in another role (like Phillips hitting 2nd, Cozart and Stubbs in the bottom of the lineup). On the other hand he isn’t great at getting on base anymore, but who knows what GABP could do for him.

    I’m glad Juan Pierre is out of the picture.

    Kevin Youkilis, HanksTeamMate says he’s deteriorating fast. So was that washed up bum named Ryan Ludwick, although he came to the Reds and reestablished his career so that he’s raised himself out of the Reds’ price range. Youkilis still hit 19 homeruns and walked 51 times for a .336 OBP in 2012 at age 33, which isn’t much of a disappointment. If he’s willing to take a discount to play regularly for his hometown team I think he’d be a great fit for a quality cleanup hitter in Cincinnati, a good mix of a tough out and a power bat. Whether they sacrifice defense at 3b (by moving Frazier to LF) to add that veteran cleanup hitter will be an interesting question to watch.

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