2012 Post-season / Open Thread

27 thoughts on “Division Series Open Thread

  1. I guess I’m still one of the irrational Reds fans that fears the Cardinals in a short series.

    I think the Cards win this series. Jackson pitches next for the Nats and he’s been bad recently, and game 4 is Lohse. The Nats best chance, I am guessing, is to get it to game 5 and hope Gonzalez is on his game.

  2. you are not irrational , I agree with you .. They CAN hit and Jackson is very suspect . They have Carpenter going on Wednesday and they are currently up 5 in game 2. I think you have a great analysis of the possibilities . Why didn’t they just wait until next year to add the second wild card?

  3. What we can hope is that the Cards and Nat’s go five, we are done after Tuesday and can set up our rotation why they have to go with a little more tired players and pitchers. Plus we get 4 of the 7 in Cincy…

  4. I am not putting that much into tonight in regards to the Cardinals offense.

    They have been like this all year, hot one game and then they average 3 a game for the next series.

  5. I want the Cardinals to win the Nats series because I want the Reds to kick their WLB asses and then do the same to the Yankees. Bring it on!!!

  6. I don’t get the fear of the Cardinals. Our pitching is miles better, as is our defense. Particularly the bullpen. Yes they hit better than we do.. but so did the Giants and look where that got them. We would be the favorites against the Cards and rightly so.

    • I don’t get the fear of the Cardinals.Our pitching is miles better, as is our defense.Particularly the bullpen.Yes they hit better than we do.. but so did the Giants and look where that got them.We would be the favorites against the Cards and rightly so.

      It’s like watching a horror movie: sure, the slow 4′ 8″ zombie 10-year-old Japanese girl is no match for the 225/6′ 3″ quarterback homecoming king bow-hunting alpha male…but you JUST KNOW the dude is screwed…

      …the WLB are 4′ 8″ zombie 10-year-old Japanese girls…a WHOLE FRIGGIN’ TEAM of them…

      • It’s like watching a horror movie: sure, the slow 4′ 8″ zombie 10-year-old Japanese girl is no match for the 225/6′ 3″ quarterback homecoming king bow-hunting alpha male…but you JUST KNOW the dude is screwed……the WLB are 4′ 8″ zombie 10-year-old Japanese girls…a WHOLE FRIGGIN’ TEAM of them…

        It’s zombie killin’ time!

    • I don’t get the fear of the Cardinals.Our pitching is miles better, as is our defense.Particularly the bullpen.Yes they hit better than we do.. but so did the Giants and look where that got them.We would be the favorites against the Cards and rightly so.

      The Reds and the Nats would both be favored against the Cards. Look where that’s going to get the Nats. They just destroyed one of the best pitchers in the league.

      Again, objectively, the Reds should beat the Cards in probably 6 out of 10 series, but being much better in the regular season doesn’t matter. The Cards can hide the crappy part of the bullpen in a short series. And they have one excellent pitcher and Wainwright has been pretty good. Plus Carpenter is a wildcard…will he be like the old Carpenter? If so, that would not be good.

  7. I think watching the Reds and as well, the Cardinals, what has happened is lineup churn. The WLBs are able to get their top hitters to the plate 5 times and even the worst of them will get 2 good swings. Watching the Reds on Sunday, it’s what our heroes did … which is why it’s so damned frustrating to watch them go down 1-2-3 in the early innings. Lineup churn and baserunners — means so much in the way the opponent has to play you.

  8. I am also in the camp of wanting the WLBs to beat the Nats to set up a battle with them. I do also think they are dangerous and it would be a tougher matchup than Washington. Of course, I’m still shaking my head that Strasburg isn’t pitching, as many players never smell the playoffs.
    Did anybody else think of Eric Davis when Ludwick hit his homer to center (not as big a moment, but the pitch location and destination were pretty similar)?

  9. I want the Cardinals to beat the nats because I think they are a better team, and I want the Reds to beat the best. I am tired of acting like we are somehow inferior to that team, because we aren’t.

    One of the may special things about the 1990 championship was who we beat. The Pirates were the consensus best team in the NL that season and Oakland was thought by many to be the best team in baseball that year. The Reds beat both of them and it wasn’t a fluke. The outhit and out pitched them.

    would the Red Sox have thought the comeback in 2004 was as special if it hadn’t been agaionst their biggest rival? This will be the Reds chance to prove they have arrived and are a team to be reckoned with for years to come.

    If the Cardinals beat us then we weren’t ready to be World Champions. I say bring them on and lets show them who the better team is. I believe it’s the good guys.

    Go Reds!!

    P.S. I love this site and 95% of the commenters here. It has really made the season more special to have a forum for reasoned (mostly) debate and cheering on of the home team. Thanks for all you do.

  10. I too would LOVE to see us play and beat the Redbirds, although I find it impossible to root for them in this series. That said, if we played the Nats and ended up winning that series, we would (obviously) gain a large amount of respect nationally. Beating the Cards in a playoff series, however, would be better in terms of beating our biggest rival in a huge playoff series and showing them that we’re ready to compete for years to come. I’m still disappointed (but in no way surprised) that the Cardinals didn’t really have a large decline without Pujols or La Russa. (All of this is assuming we close out the Giants, which is still pending)

  11. I want the fellas to play and beat the WLBs for the message it sends to the WLBs, their fans, the good guys, and the good guys’ fans. There is no pixie dust this year or in the future. The WLBs are the second best team in the division and the Reds aren’t going anywhere soon . . . so get used to it.

  12. I think the Nats stand a pretty good chance of beating the Cards yet. That series has become the best of 3, and the Nats can take them down.

    Personally, I’m not afraid of either team and don’t dread facing either of them. The Cards might be a slightly easier opponent since we’d have homefield, but I’d like our chances against the Nats as well, even with no homefield.

    Bottom line is I hope we sweep so we can rest, recharge and realign our rotation and the Nats and Cards play 5 and come into the series against the Reds ragged and worn down.

  13. I think certain people are making too big of a deal of the Cards’ blowout win against the Nats.

    Yes, they beat a pretty good pitcher, but it was still just one game and one loss for the Nats.

    If the Cards win the next game, then I’ll start to seriously consider the prospect that the Cards could win the series. As it stands right now, the Nats still have the advantage since they won one of the games in St. Louis. The next 3 are in Washington.

  14. One final stat to consider: Cards are 2-9 playing in D.C. since 2010.

    We’ll see what happens. A lot of variables to consider, but like I said, slight edge to Washington going forward.

    Game 3 is two wildcard starting pitchers going against each other, don’t really know what to expect from either Carp or Jackson.

    Game 4’s matchup might slightly favor the Cards, but I view it more as a push given the circumstances.

    And Game 5, if it happens, are the game 1 starters going at it again, mostly a push.

    So 3 pretty evenly matched games…But played in Washington. Given this, the Nats have the edge.

  15. I’m not scared of the Cards in terms of talent, I’m scared of them because of their stupid dumb luck. It’s always something with them yet their fans (and sometimes even their players) always complain when something doesn’t go their way. First they shouldn’t have even sniffed the playoffs if this were previous years. Second, while some blame should be put on the Braves, what are the odds that one of the best teams in the league commits 3 errors that result in 3 unearned runs? I suppose they do deserve some credit because they are pretty good at taking advantage of the other teams’ mistakes.

    • I’m not scared of the Cards in terms of talent, I’m scared of them because of their stupid dumb luck.It’s always something with them yet their fans (and sometimes even their players) always complain when something doesn’t go their way.First they shouldn’t have even sniffed the playoffs if this were previous years.Second, while some blame should be put on the Braves, what are the odds that one of the best teams in the league commits 3 errors that result in 3 unearned runs?I suppose they do deserve some credit because they are pretty good at taking advantage of the other teams’ mistakes.

      It’s funny you and people keep mentioning how lucky the Cards are because this has been one of the running discussions on the board this year. While I don’t deny that luck exists in baseball, I do deny it can be accurately quantified. For example: Most people would say the Cards have been lucky. How do you quantify their luck, statistically? You can’t. That’s why I think it’s weird that we try to quantify luck in other aspects of the game but don’t and can’t quantify it in terms of “errors induced” or something like that.

      Anyway, yeah, the Cards do seem to have luck on their side, but I think the Nats’ talent will win out with homefield advantage.

      • Anyway, yeah, the Cards do seem to have luck on their side, but I think the Nats’ talent will win out with homefield advantage.

        I thought that last year too and I thought that during the wildcard game this year. I’m not saying you can quantify luck, which is precisely why I don’t want to play the Cards. By the numbers we are the better team and should have no issues beating them, but the numbers on paper aren’t what wins the games. Although, I’m sure if we get past the Giants the team will be jacked and ready to play anyone so I’m not worried about a collapse (like the Braves) from the team or anything.

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