2012 Reds / Game Thread

Game Thread: Reds at stupid Cubs (2012.09.18)

The Reds and Cubs square off tonight in the first of a three-game series. This will be the last time Cincinnati gets a chance to beat up on the Cubs in 2012; let’s hope the good guys take advantage.

Homer Bailey (playoff starter?) will take the mound for Cincinnati; he’ll face former Red Justin Germano.

Discuss the game here. Go Redlegs.

125 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds at stupid Cubs (2012.09.18)

    • I approve of Joey not wanting to slide into a catcher.Even if we lose this game.

      Absolutely. Too close to meaningful postseason games to lose him now over a late saeson game with the Cubs. And, especially with Hannigan clearing the bases.

    • Valdez: .227 OBP.Remind me again why he’s a better choice to play than Gregorius?

      Is it that high?

  1. Wilson Valdez last hit a double on June 15th. He has 3 doubles this year: one in April, one in May, and one in June.

    • Wilson Valdez last hit a double on June 15th.He has 3 doubles this year: one in April, one in May, and one in June.

      He’s terrible. He’s also made a few horrible base running mistakes.

      Homer is dealing now.

    • Wilson Valdez last hit a double on June 15th.He has 3 doubles this year: one in April, one in May, and one in June.

      Now that’s what I call consistency. :D

  2. I just can’t get worked up over how the team is hitting in a bunch of games that are essentially meaningless. As long as they can avoid a prolonged losing streak, which they have, they are doing all they need to. I’ll be glad when JoeyMVP starts hitting the ball deep and I think he’s working on it. But he was out a long time. Frazier has been on the bench a lot lately. Cozart has been out. Miami Park is gigantic.

    CP: great point about walks (on base skills), it definitely contributes to streakiness. And you’re also right that it’s nothing that is going to change anytime soon. Votto and Hanigan excel, Bruce and Rolen are good at walks. Frazier, Stubbs and Ludwick are average. Soon, the Reds will have Brandon Phillips and Zack Cozart, with two TERRIBLE walk rates at the top of the order. Whoo!

  3. Apologize to the Nation for giving ANY hint of optimism towards Drew Stubbs. tonight. REALLY SORRY, guys!

  4. Jim Kelch is getting schooled by Chris Welsh, about Reds’ victories on Bow tie Tuesday, I’m sure b/c Kelch DID NOT choose to wear a bow tie tonight.

  5. Homer at 95 pitches. I’d take him out now. With the day off yesterday I’d give the bullpen some work. Lot of arms out there. No reason to push it with Homer. He’s at a career high in IP as it is. Seven IP, two hits, two walks. ERA down to 3.78. Four great starts in September.

    • Homer at 95 pitches. I’d take him out now. With the day off yesterday I’d give the bullpen some work. Lot of arms out there. No reason to push it with Homer. He’s at a career high in IP as it is. Seven IP, two hits, two walks. ERA down to 3.78. Four great starts in September.

      Agreed, Dusty needs to start dialing things back on our starters.

  6. CP: great point about walks (on base skills), it definitely contributes to streakiness. And you’re also right that it’s nothing that is going to change anytime soon. Votto and Hanigan excel, Bruce and Rolen are good at walks. Frazier, Stubbs and Ludwick are average. Soon, the Reds will have Brandon Phillips and Zack Cozart, with two TERRIBLE walk rates at the top of the order. Whoo!

    Steve, I guess the hope would be that Billy Hamilton can add another soon. I’m somewhat skeptical, but remain optimistic. He can’t be worse than the current situation though. I would hope that WJ is dreaming of scenarios where he can add two .360+ OBPs to the lineup! :D

    I don’t necessarily think Ludwick is a slam dunk resign by the way. If this organization frustrates me, it’s the propensity to overpay after a great season. Rolen, Arroyo, and BP are prime examples. I appreciate what they’ve done for the Reds, but sometimes you just squeeze out every drop of value from a good deal, then tip your hat to the guy and say “best of luck to you”. Without even including Chapman in the mix, the Reds have some cheap MLB quality starting pitching on the roster that quickly becomes expendable with quality minor league guys on the way.

    Btw I fully expect WJ to resign Ludwick. He’s quirky like that.

  7. @steveschoen: Hey, Thanks. Like I posted, I’m not a stat guy (by any means, and I know many on here pride themselves on that) so, I don’t look at all those places that I can look up those statistics myself. Again, I wasn’t trying to be a pest in asking that, I was just curious as to what to expect if and when Stubbs starts hitting again. Thanks much.

    • @steveschoen: Hey, Thanks. Like I posted, I’m not a stat guy (by any means, and I know many on here pride themselves on that) so, I don’t look at all those places that I can look up those statistics myself. Again, I wasn’t trying to be a pest in asking that, I was just curious as to what to expect if and when Stubbs starts hitting again. Thanks much.

      no problem

  8. Just don’t get the point of leaving Homer in at this point. Baker trying to be BFF with his starters, I guess. The bullpen needs the work. It’s not like it’s important – in September – to get lots of innings out of your starter.

    Now Bailey has given up a run. Baker’s handling of starting pitchers is really idiotic.

    • Dusty continues to baffle me.

      Personally, I’d rather see the starters throwing about 90 pitches now that the division is locked up.

  9. Welsh is on TV claiming that Bailey has been good the last 4 starts because Hanigan’s been catching.

    Or, it could be that pitching against Houston, Houston, Pitt, and the Cubs has something to do with it.

    • Welsh is on TV claiming that Bailey has been good the last 4 starts because Hanigan’s been catching.

      Or, it could be that pitching against Houston, Houston, Pitt, and the Cubs has something to do with it.

      Especially since Navarro, not Hanigan, was the catcher in one of those games. Crack analysis by Welsh.

      • Especially since one of those games Navarro was the catcher.

        Hah. Thanks for pointing that out, I didn’t know that. So Welsh isn’t even talking about facts.

    • Welsh is on TV claiming that Bailey has been good the last 4 starts because Hanigan’s been catching.

      Or, it could be that pitching against Houston, Houston, Pitt, and the Cubs has something to do with it.

      Let’s not forget Strode just punked the Phillies…

    • Sadder yet, Valdez isn’t even the worst player who will be on the bench (cough, cough, Cairo, cough).

      I’d take Cairo over Valdez if it was a game altering at bat.

      Watching Valdez hit is a truly miserable experience.

  10. My phone just texted me the Reds won. The darn thing sometimes has the gall to text me that the Reds lost.

  11. Good win for the Reds, thanks to some clutch hitting by Hanigan. What the heck might as well sweep em now. You have to be impressed with the way this team wins games, even when their offense is not at its best. Keep on keepen’ on Redlegs. Adios Amigos.

  12. The rest of the season is the equivalent of the last few mins of a blowout football game, just garbage time. Normally, I’d think we would be seeing more of the young guys, but with the struggles of Stubbs/Valdez, maybe it isn’t such a bad idea to get them as many reps as we can so they can hopefully catch a streak going into October. Of course, the season numbers don’t indicate that either will, but it seems to be that Edgar Renteria had a really crappy season and then ended up being the WS MVP a couple years ago. Just try to keep it in perspective, I know it’s brutal watching Stubbs and Valdez accomplish nothing, but if at first you don’t succeed, try…try again.

    • The rest of the season is the equivalent of the last few mins of a blowout football game, just garbage time. Normally, I’d think we would be seeing more of the young guys, but with the struggles of Stubbs/Valdez, maybe it isn’t such a bad idea to get them as many reps as we can so they can hopefully catch a streak going into October. Of course, the season numbers don’t indicate that either will, but it seems to be that Edgar Renteria had a really crappy season and then ended up being the WS MVP a couple years ago. Just try to keep it in perspective, I know it’s brutal watching Stubbs and Valdez accomplish nothing, but if at first you don’t succeed, try…try again.

      Considering the other teams, only 3 teams have a chance to keep us out of the playoffs right now, Pittsburgh, the Dodgers, and the Brewers, only talking record-wise. Teams with worse records can’t catch us. I like that.

      What I don’t like is, this is the time of season where we should be in cruise control, essentially. Everything should pretty much be set, no problems anywhere. But, Cueto struggling. Votto still no RBI’s since he’s been back. Stubbs is Stubbs. Team offense struggling some. Chapman out. Cozart out. Not dire concerns, granted. But, not where you want your team come this time in the season.

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