2012 Reds / Game Thread

Game Thread: Reds vs. Phillies (2012.09.04)

One thing has been on everyone’s mind:

Will Joey Votto be in the lineup tonight?

Well, the answer is no. He’s probably going to start tomorrow. We’ll see, but I’m giddy with excitement. How good can this team be with the best hitter in baseball inserted into the lineup? That’s something I like to think about.

Discuss the game here. Go Redlegs.

242 thoughts on “Game Thread: Reds vs. Phillies (2012.09.04)

    • @dn4192: so you can tell what Molina is feeling but Welsch can’t tell what whoever we were talking about is feeling?

      No you can tell when someone is angry….please tell me how you tell a hitter has no heart?

  1. Bochy would have us at 100 wins already. I’ve watched him closely and he is the manager!!!!! People skills plus game situations are all great. No way he comes to Cincy unless SFG unloads him unilickly.

  2. @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Well I guess I’m bad at guessing ages but someone like Joe Maddon (58) or Manny Acta (43) would be nice. Someone that is progressive and not afraid to make tough decisions while leveraging sabermetrics.

    • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Well I guess I’m bad at guessing ages but someone like Joe Maddon (58) or Manny Acta (43) would be nice.Someone that is progressive and not afraid to make tough decisions while leveraging sabermetrics.

      Joe Maddon is my pick. Acta? I don’t know, give me Bochy. Bobby Valentine might be available in 2013.

  3. @seat101: I’m guessing Dusty moves him down, Drew gets hot and Dusty moves him to the lead-off spot for the rest of his tenure as Reds’ manager.

  4. Its an absolute thrill to watch Chapman pitch, worth the price of admission. This team hangs tough just about single game. Go Reds !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adios Amigos.

  5. Latos deserved that win and the big break from the umps. But. how bad the offense lately? Bruce has driven in 7 of ther last 9 runs scored. Ouch 8O

  6. Who needs an offense when you’ve got Jay Bruce? Nice night for the pitching staff, Latos hung tough and didn’t crumble when he so easily could have.

  7. I know it’s the unpopular vote, but I like Dusty. He might have some of the worst lineups in baseball, but he’s also got the team with the best record for half the salary that a Bobby Valentine has. Very pleased with his job this year, hope he gets an extension.

  8. @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Bobby V woiuldn’t fit into this city (maybe the only place he fits in is Japan where they don’t all completely understand the garbage coming out of his mouth).

    I’m sure Bochy would be fine though he brings a lot of the same quirks that Dusty has, but he might be surprised how difficult it is to manage without having at least two real aces on his team at all time and while being removed from the weak NL West. How that organization has handled Brandon Belt is very similar to how the Reds have treated Mesoraco so I guess they’d be peas in a pod.

    • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Bobby V woiuldn’t fit into this city (maybe the only place he fits in is Japan where they don’t all completely understand the garbage coming out of his mouth).

      I’m sure Bochy would be fine though he brings a lot of the same quirks that Dusty has, but he might be surprised how difficult it is to manage without having at least two real aces on his team at all time and while being removed from the weak NL West.How that organization has handled Brandon Belt is very similar to how the Reds have treated Mesoraco so I guess they’d be peas in a pod.

      @CP: I was being sarcastic about Bobby V. Rather keep Dusty.

      I’m not a big Mes fan and think we traded the wrong catcher. Time will tell and hope I’m very wrong.

  9. Arguing for Bobby Valentine over Dusty may be the most absurd thing I’ve ever read. One guy has a flawed small market team in first place in all of baseball, while the other took the second highest payroll and ran it into the ground. I’m as frustrated as anyone with Dusty’s lineup, but to clamor for Bobby Valentine is foolish.

  10. Why are people talking about a managerial change ? Castellini has already said that Dusty is staying.

    • Why are people talking about a managerial change ? Castellini has already said that Dusty is staying.

      @pinson343: Just small talk. Wasn’t exactly an overload of action in this particular game. Should have keep my mouth shut and that is for real.

  11. @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Eh way too early to tell. I brought up Belt and Mesoraco merely to illustrate that both Bochy and Dusty set young players up to fail. Young studs don’t need to be handed starting jobs, but perhaps old fuddy duddy managers need to provide semi-regular opportunities (for example, Mesoraco catching no back-to-back games).

    • @CharlotteNCRedsFan: Eh way too early to tell.I brought up Belt and Mesoraco merely to illustrate that both Bochy and Dusty set young players up to fail.Young studs don’t need to be handed starting jobs, but perhaps old fuddy duddy managers need to provide semi-regular opportunities (for example, Mesoraco catching no back-to-back games).

      I wonder if a season spent at AAA would have been more productive for his development? I’m just sky-high on what Hanigan brings to the table. Mes will get his chance before long but it may still be a couple of years. I’m definitely rooting for Devin and you have a fair point even if we may disagree.

      Jay Bruce is really carrying the offense right now. Take a bow, Mr. Bruce.

      • Jay Bruce is really carrying the offense right now. Take a bow, Mr. Bruce.

        Bruce is in one of those “zones” again. He has put this team on his shoulders for the last 10 games. Since Aug. 1 he has been the Jay Bruce we all want to see consistently.
        One positive: Exxon Valdez didn’t let one go right through his legs with the game on the line.

  12. I was nervous in the 8th and 9th. Did not trust a 1 run lead. Thought Rollins might take a Broxton fastball out, he almost did.

    With Chapman, was more concerned about Mayberry and Wiggington than Howard. Thought one of them might run into a fastball if Chapman grooved one. Wiggington almost did. Yes Howard’s much more of a threat than them, but lefties have virtually no chance against Chapman.

  13. Chris Welsh: “You can tell by the way Stubbs is swinging at that outside ball that his heart’s just not in it.”

    What does that even MEAN? This is a first place team in September with legitimate WS aspirations. If his heart isn’t in it then freaking cut him.

    I think what he meant is that his swing wasn’t into the pitch. His heart wasn’t into that particular swing. I could be wrong. It was an outside fastball. Followed by an inside pitch which Stubbs struck out and you could hear boos! I hate to say this but Reds games are kinda boring right now. Nobody is hitting except Bruce. Stubbs followed by Valdez can only happen under a Dusty lineup.

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