One thing has been on everyone’s mind:
Will Joey Votto be in the lineup tonight?
Well, the answer is no. He’s probably going to start tomorrow. We’ll see, but I’m giddy with excitement. How good can this team be with the best hitter in baseball inserted into the lineup? That’s something I like to think about.
Discuss the game here. Go Redlegs.




Go Redlegs! Maybe we’ll see Joey pinch hit late in the game.
Drew Stubbs 8
Wilson Valdez 6
Brandon Phillips 4
Ryan Ludwick 7
Jay Bruce 9
Todd Frazier 3
Scott Rolen 5
Ryan Hanigan 2
Mat Latos 1
As opposed to pinch hitting early in the game which obviously happens all the time or I wouldn’t have said it like that, right? Of course. Go Reds.
I have yet to hear a truly positive story regarding JV. I’m wondering if he is being overly cautious or if the Injury is just not responding to treatment the way he had hoped.
@hydeman: I am positive that the Reds crack medical specialists already have their Aspen/Vail Vacations booked and paid for.
I’m wondering if Joey is having problems with his anxiety?
Yeah…Joey’s anxiety issues are ancient history, man. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it might be related to the knee surgery. Just guessing here.
I don’t think its unreasonable to speculate on some of his issues from the past.
I really don’t think so…That seemed to be an isolated incident related to the death of his Dad. I just think his knee still hurts.
I’m really excited to watch Wilson Valdez play tonight.
If there ever was a time to bat the pitcher 8th and someone else 9th, this is it. So naturally he’s batting SECOND.
MValdezP!!!
I hate losing to the sillies…There fans suck!
Just heard Dusty’s Comments on the pregame show. It kinda sounds like everybody is a little nervous about how the knee is gonna hold up. … Reporters asked Votto if he could pinch hit, and Votto deferred to Dusty, saying he’s the one who makes game decisions. It could have been a simple “Yes, if they need me,” if all is otherwise well. But he didn’t say that apparently.
Hearing a lot of this type of comment from JV and Dusty…Sounds like the team thinks he should be ready and JV doesn’t. Wish some of the quotes this last week were more definite and positive.
Dusty made the comment that there is always going to be some fear (maybe he didn’t use that exact word) about what will happen until he gets on the field and has to make a hard turn, or a slide, or whatever. Sounds like he wants Votto to play but “play smart.” I guess that could mean NOT sliding at all, no hard moves around first base, etc. But it’s all just speculation.
Which team would you rather play in the playoffs San Francisco, Atlanta, St. Louis, or Los Angeles? I don’t feel that one of those teams is better or worse than any of the others at this point.
I think what is key this year is that whomever we play we have to go to their park for game 1 and 2. Do we really want to go West and then travel back here for maybe 3 games?
Give me the Giants with no melkey.
My thoughts exactly. We seem to always play them well and their offense is prone to awfulness. I would say 1. Giants 2. Braves 3. Dodgers 30. Cardinals. I really don’t want to play the Cards in a 5 game series with the first two on the road.
Have you seen their record post Melkey?
Any team that doesn’t have Ty “Young” Cloyd on its staff.
C’mon Reds wake that lumber outta its slumber. Go Reds!!
I think we all need to come to grips with the fact that the MVP Joey Votto won’t be the one we see the rest of the season. IN fact I am leaning towards thinking it might be best for the franchise this season and for the future to just DL him for the rest of the season and let the knee heal without issue. Do we really want to risk long term issues with someone we owe $200 million to for the next how many years.
Will it hurt this years team, maybe to a degree, but we have to look at it for what it is, Joey Votto is not ready to return and be the productive player we expect, so why risk it?
@DatFan: From someone with anxiety issues. I’m not sure it will ever be ancient history.
Horrible at-bat by Valdez. idiot.
@Kurt Frost: Agrred!
LA might have the biggest jump between their ace (Kershaw) and the rest. That is important with the 1 game wildcard playoff beforehand.
Reds hitters are in a funk right now. it doesn’t help that they are facing another soft-tossing AAA pitcher.
they are waiting on the HR again….
Fay and Marty saying they expect Brandon to go to leadoff, Cozart to No. 2, Stubbs to seventh … no surprise, I guess.
With all due respect, it only matters what ONE person thinks about lineup construction. There is no current logic, therefore there is no expectation. (For me.)
Bruuuuuuuuuce!!!!!
Thats the best he has done aginst the wall all year…I’ve never seen a guy so timid around the wall. Great catch!
Does anyone have any experience with meniscus surgery or medical knowledge of the injury? My friend had the arthroscopic procedure on his knee about a year ago and he still has a lot of pain when he runs. I worry that 100% recovery might not be a typical outcome.
Reds bats looking very tired. They aren’t even hitting balls hard.
Currently getting no-hit.
I had a feeling this was going to happen.
At least they get to play Houston this weekend. Maybe that will get them going.
Reds 40 man roster at 39..so who should get that 40th spot?
Someone who can hit and play centerfield.
There’s a free out for Philly, sheesh.
Usually the black hole is at the bottom of the lineup. But for the Reds, it is at the top. Have mercy!
Holy crap I knew Stubbs was struggling but he’s down to .219? I’m sorry but this guy doesn’t belong on the field right now. And as I type that he gets a hit. Good, I hope he proves me wrong.
Apparently, Dusty said Votto was able to pinch hit in an emergency, Kelch just said …
Man, Valdez has the weakest bat I have ever seen.
2 words: Paul Janish
And Valdez goes back on the interstate. What a highly skilled No. 2 lineup choice he is …
Why not start DiDi if you’re going to give Cozart the day off?
He still has Janish beat .199 to .193. No justification for batting 2nd though. Hoping Latos’ hand is ok. Geesh!
Bone Head! I think this offense is in an emergency! Bring Joey in the game NOW!
@BRM5: First, we don’t know if your neighbor had the exact same injury. There is a lateral and medial side of the meniscus, plus there is no way to know the severity of the tear. The fact that Joey is already pretty much back indicates it might not have been the most severe variety…
Second, it’s an extremely common surgery. If football & basketball players can come back from the injury, why wouldn’t a baseball player? About 7 NBA players per year suffer a meniscus tear, most on the medial side, which is supposed to be the more dangerous version. Off the top of my head, Brandon Roy, Blake Griffin, Jeremy Lin, and Dwayne Wade have all suffered meniscus tears recently. No one is worried their careers are over (well Roy has some other knee issues that cause a problem).
The point being-who knows? Some people say it takes about a year to get back to full strength performance-wise. Maybe Votto will never be the same, but it seems unlikely. I just hate worrying about something that is beyond all our control.
Was Rollins running in like he thought there were 3 out?
Reds couldn’t score if they were given a free base runner every inning.
@BRM5: Also, there is a big difference between rehab for pro athletes and average joe’s…I remember seeing a story about Carson Palmer rehabbing something like 8-10 hours/day. The average Joe rehabs nothing like that.
Which of the blogs Pos was talking about are hopeful and playful?
@SirRibShack: you want someone with experience and impeccable defense playing short.
So why is Wilson Valdez playing?
Uh, Oh. Here we go.I run or 2 here will be tough to overcome.
@Jared: Alex Johnsn for some hrribly strange reason popped into my head…….what does it mean?
@Sergeant2: Actually its Cy Cloyd, I think.
@seat101: probably just that you’re a few years older than me
In deep dodo now.
That’s a tough pitch to load the bases on
Why do I see a 4 run inning coming?
@seat101:
Are you implying I am senile?
Well, that’s about it. I don’t see the Reds scoring.
maybe tomorrow.
Lets hope the Cards lose tonight so the lead doesn’t continue to slip away.
@Sergeant2: Or “Psych” Lloyd, perhaps.
Scheirholtz will probably hit a GS.
Wow. Not entirely sure what just happened but alright.
so did the runner on third have time to tag and score before they got the guy doubled off second?
Well this is interesting.
@RedForever:
It’s the 4th inning man. We’ve barely been through the order one time.
Whatwasthat
now i’m really confused. radio just said the ball dropped, not caught.
Miscall but doesn’t matter because it was 2 outs either way.
Man, Latos needs a prozac when he’s on the mound. He needs to settle down out there. He gets mad/frustrated and starts melting down. He was bailed out last inning.
The meltdowns definitely aren’t good, but it’s refreshing to see a player with that much passion for us. He’s like the anti-BP; always a scowl and his mouth in his glove. Awesome. I can only get Gamecast right now though, so all I’ve got are the stats
The meltdowns definitely aren’t good, but it’s refreshing to see a player with that much passion for us. He’s like the anti-BP; always a scowl and his mouth in his glove. Awesome. I can only get Gamecast right now though, so all I’ve got are the stats
Earier in the season, Opening Night, I believe, Latos gave up a base clearing hit rather than possibly walk in a run.
I think they got that wrong
@Mwv: it wasn’t caught and there was only the force out at 2b
Atta boy Bruce!
I love seeing Jay hustle like that, love it.
Yawn. This Reds offense is a real snoozer tonight. kinda like last night. And the night before.
Reds getting on top of everything. They are so bad at adjusting to slow tossers.
Kinda sad when you feel 1 run is enough to beat you. Real sad.
Frustrating – would love to drive in the final nails to Phillys playoff hope this year…..but through 1.5 games (with our aces) it doesn’t look real promising. Anyone want to bet on Leake vs. Halladay?
@RedForever: you’ve posted 16 comments in this thread. 16 have been negative and one neutral. Maybe you would be happier just looking at the standings instead of watching games.
I just want to be able to continue to see the Reds in first. Right now they look like the Astros.
@RedForever:
Or half Astros….
Extra points for anyone who can catch my math error.VERY subtle but it’s there.
We’re Rocket Surgeons, not Math Teachers.
Kendrick looks worse with a bat in his hand than Harang ever did
This is the inning….
@seat101: going back…Maybe i just don’t know who Alex Johnson is.
@Tourniquette: Tom Hume
@Jared: Well, they called him “Dr. StrangeGlove”.
Rolen’s bat looks really slow right now. You have to think he is on the verge of breaking down. Good thing Votto is back.
The bow tie is the most ridiculous accessory ever worn
@seat101: I love it. When was this?
1 for 16.(Rolen). We need Votto at first so Scott can recharge. His shoulders look weird in his stance. He keeps his hands inside, but he ca’t hit the ball all that well.
I don’t understand how Hannigan doesn’t get more attention
I really like this Umpiring crew.
@Jared: Back in the 60′s. Ages ago.
Let’s hope the blind squirrel can find his nut!
@seat101: oh yeah, you gotta be older than me.
With age comes wisdom. Well that’s the rumor anyway.
Drew Stubbs…my hero! sheesh.
Cards up 3-0. looks like the lead will drop to 7.5. You know the Cards believe they can catch the Reds. The Reds haven’t been in a race so they may not know how to finish.
@RedForever: this team should pull a Friday night lights and run itself. I think we can all agree that the biggest weakness is leaning against the talking at the top of the dugout steps
@Sergeant2: They say the memory is the second thing to go….
Fffff. I typed railing over and over and it still ended up wrong
Odds Valdez gets on base? 10:1 against?
@seat101
Hume was a pitcher though! If Valdez could pitch like Hume or defend like Janish, at least he’d be a contributor of some sort. Right now, he looks more like another body to warm the dugout seats for the real players, like Cairo
Reds #1 & 2 hitters BA: .221 & .199. Can’t we do better?
Can we? Yes. Why haven’t we previously? Hmmmm
Maybe Dusty will pinch hit Votto here for Valdez? We can only dream!
@hoodlum: .237:1
Interesting, Marty said the best 3rd baseman he has seen since he’s been covering the Reds was Tony Fernandez. I don’t remember Tony Fernandez ever playing for the Reds. But then again, he only played for the Reds for 1 yr.
For the life of me, I cannot think of Valdez’ first name. I always call him Stupid Valdez. Is his first name Stupid?
@RKReds: Juan. Like in coffee.
It ain’t Hammer’en Valdez that’s for dam sure.
Is there any other contending team out there that has even ONE guy on their bench the entire year batting under .200? We have two. And we start both of them at least once a week, often at the same time.
@RKReds: exxon. Get it? He’s a disaster.
@RKReds: Exxon. Exxon Valdez.
Jynx.
@RKReds:
I know it starts with a “W”, so I’m assuming it must be Worthless Valdez
Sorry, Joey. I know you’re still not feeling 100% but this team needs you back stat. Our luck is running out.
What leads you to believe he will help when he doesn’t feel he is ready.
Because a 75% Joey Votto is better than most major league starters. Sure as hell better than Drew Stubbs and Wilson Valdez batting 1-2. If all it does is push BP up and Stubbs down and keep Valdez and Cairo out of the lineup more then it’s a VAST improvement, even if he only hits .270.
Problem is Votto won’t relaxes either of them, is a 75% Votto better then a 100% healthy Frazier because that is who loses playing time.
Valdez: 0-3, K, and what should have been called a CS
Hanigan: 2-2
Would Wilson’s feelings really be hurt if he was batting 8th? He should know by now that he’s not as good a hitter as Hanigan, as should Dusty. I know in the big picture that lineup order is not extremely significant, but its an easy thing to notice when the offense has been this stagnant.
BRUUUUUUUUUCE!!!!!!
@Jared: I claim a copyright on Exxon. I was calling him that after the “through the wickets” choke.
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE! About time!
J-EHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUCE!
I notice that we’ve got Gregorius on the bench, and it can’t really get any worse at shortstop right now…why not give the kid a try? And let’s get some Savior Paul in here, that kid has been coming through in the weirdest, best times!
@hoodlum: even so…best Reds team in 20 years.
Too bad Jay Bruce isn’t good in the clutch.
And with two outs. Suh-WEET
Ludwick wasn’t in scoring position so that doesn’t count as clutch.
@CP: Still didn’t get a hit with risp!
Boy, is it a tough crowd, or what? Even after the home run they were booing Jay!
As Todd would say, if you have to use both hands then don’t bother.
@seat101:
Thought they were saying “Moooooooooose.”
I think its safe to say Bruce is getting locked in to one of his patented hot streaks. 2-1 Reds top 7th. Just what the Doctor ordered. Lets get a few more. Go Reds !!!
I haven’t seen much of the Bruce haters as of late. Wonder why…
Because he’s carrying the team?
If your saying that all the Bruce “Haters” as you call them have been proven wrong, I’m not sure that’s necessarily the case. Everybody loves Jay when he get in one of his hot streaks.
Do they hit for Latos or let him go out for the 8th?
I have a hunch we will be seeing Mat L-ace-tos all month long.
I would love to see Gregorious as defensive replacement
I like where that second ball to Rolen showed up on pitch trax. Somehow it still had a nasty factor of 21. I guess it would have been difficult to hit.
Another solid outing by Latos. What happened against the WLB just makes no sense. He is shaping up to be a true dominant #1, not saying Cueto has been doing bad but Latos has been that good.
It looks like Rolen’s post-ASB hot streak has come to a screeching halt the last few weeks. Tomorrow’s a day game so you figure it will be Joey and Frazier, but Frazier really should be the every day 3B from here on out. Rolen plays on the days Votto rests and Frazier switches on those starts.
@eric nyc: Valdez and Cairo should not play another inning the rest of the yr, when JV comes back.
XP has been such a great signing for us. He’s going to be big in the post season.
@vicferrari: If he had hustled to 1st base in the top of the 6th that inning probably does not happen.
if Stubbs gats on and Valdez makes the final out of therinning the double switch would be in order. But…we’re talkin about Stubbs who barely hits above his weight.
You all know how I like Rolen’s skills. He needs rest. That strikeout was on a hope and a guess that the ball was gonna be ‘right down Broadway’ and belt high. He was only half right.
You have to bat for Valdez here if Stubbs walks, right?
@Sergeant2:
I can’t remember the first.
Think Viagra, the miracle drug.
Drew Stubbs needs to go.
Sheesh…
Good to know we’ve got outfielders like Paul on the bench, even if we start the *ahem* faster one that can’t hit. I wonder, if Paul switched to center…
Drew Stubbs struck out? That’s inconceivable!
And once again Stubbs proves that whoever makes out the line up has questionable baseball sense. How long can this go on? Dusty wonders why he is so criticized?
Chris Welsh: “You can tell by the way Stubbs is swinging at that outside ball that his heart’s just not in it.”
What does that even MEAN? This is a first place team in September with legitimate WS aspirations. If his heart isn’t in it then freaking cut him.
Exactly, we’re not the only ones who see it but insiders are forbidden to speak?
I like Welch but that comment is just stupid on his part.
@George Culver: Dusty thinks he gets a normal amount of criticism and that it’s unavoidable.
On the pitching front- Love the idea of Cueto & Latos for the next three years at least!!!!!!!!. I live in the bay area & a great friend of mine stated that MLB has a major issue with Dusty and will not recognize any of the players on his teams. Cueto, Frazier JVP should be getting some national love and they are certainly getting ignored. I”m not saying anything other than Dusty can be contentious and I truly like him to be our manager- line-ups aside of course!!! Growing up in Ohio, I met a number of incredibly intelligent men who never went to school but had the mind to learn life. That to me is Dusty, life smart- his job is to get the most out of his players and he has done it. 8.5 games up, best in the majors- who da thunk? Go Reds!!!!!!
@SFredsfan: Give us Bochy and we will even throw Stubbs in with Baker.
Why is Ondrusek getting up? Shouldn’t CHapman be starting to walk around?
17,806 showed up for tonight’s titanic struggle, 17,806.
@dn4192: Howso?
A) he wad a pitcher not a hitter
B) he has no way of knowing how someone feels.
Chapman vs. Howard to open the top of the 9th. Epic
I just saw Bruce’s catch in the second. W O W! No pariesphobia there.
It doesn’t matter which bat Valdez uses tonight now does it?
it doesn’t matter IF Valdez uses a bat …
Absolutely absurd to bat Valdez in 8th. Why expand the roster? What is Dusty trying to prove?
What makes you think he is trying to prove anything…his team is in first place he has proved he knows what he is doing
Wilson Valdez…..the name
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Wilsonvaldez&t=1000&a=n
No one can tell me Wilson Valdez offers you anything as a spot starter that Gregorious doesn’t. Even if Gregorious comes in and batts sub-.200 and bobbles a ball or two, at least he’s getting experience on the upswing of his career instead of just decaying under the lights for everyone to moan at like Valdez.
Joey Votto
To Veto Joy
@dn4192: Are you saying Welsh wouldn’t know it if Yadier Molina was angry?
Anger and lack of heart ate hugely different…
@eric nyc: He’s a vet.@dn4192:
Stubbs looks gormless to me, but it could be his heart rather than his head.
@seat101: ?
@Jared: Yadier iwas born irate. He should have been an ump!
@dn4192: Dusty has not done a thing yet, but does deserve some credit. But, the Valdez thing is stupid.
@seat101: Are you just saying what Dusty would tell me or is that actually an argument? Because that’s exactly my point – the whole idea of “veteraniness” is presumably that they can handle it when things go badly and turn it around quickly. But if you’re just not a good player anymore and you’re falling apart on the field with no hope of turning it around no matter how much experience you have, why not give the innings to a young guy to get him that valuable experience sooner?
How can benching Frazier and killing his ROY chances possibly be good for team chemistry? Dusty is an idiot.admit it.
If Scott Rolen has one breath left, I hope he will use it right here.
@dn4192: so you can tell what Molina is feeling but Welsch can’t tell what whoever we were talking about is feeling?
No you can tell when someone is angry….please tell me how you tell a hitter has no heart?
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: if Rolen dies I’m blaming you
@Jared: What if it is when he is 95?
An extra run would have been huge there. Sweat it out from here.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Clueless, but it sounds funnier.
@seat101: Think Joey will be in the lineup for the LA series? Will Drew and if so, will he be batting 2nd?
@eric nyc: Well, Dusty says he’s a vet.
Could Baltimore actually win the AL EAST?
Through the backstop. Yes. The new wildthing
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8CpIg2fvU
You gotta have heart.
Has Howard swung yet?
@dn4192: you can tell a person has no heart when they decide its ok to sit on the bench while Valdez plays
Almost kneecapped Mayberry.
Its up the “Terminator” now. Hasta la vista baby.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan:
I think JV wil. Stubbs bats 7
@seat101: Not bad. What will Stubbs BA be going in to the series?
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: 0 for ever.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Ughhhh….Bochy is very Dusty-like.
Go young.
Give me a name.
@CP: Really just trying to get rid of Stubbs.
Wiggington looks like someone you’d want on your softball team.
Bochy would have us at 100 wins already. I’ve watched him closely and he is the manager!!!!! People skills plus game situations are all great. No way he comes to Cincy unless SFG unloads him unilickly.
Reds win.
Nice job for Latos, Brox & The Missile.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Well I guess I’m bad at guessing ages but someone like Joe Maddon (58) or Manny Acta (43) would be nice. Someone that is progressive and not afraid to make tough decisions while leveraging sabermetrics.
Joe Maddon is my pick. Acta? I don’t know, give me Bochy. Bobby Valentine might be available in 2013.
@seat101: I’m guessing Dusty moves him down, Drew gets hot and Dusty moves him to the lead-off spot for the rest of his tenure as Reds’ manager.
Its an absolute thrill to watch Chapman pitch, worth the price of admission. This team hangs tough just about single game. Go Reds !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adios Amigos.
Latos deserved that win and the big break from the umps. But. how bad the offense lately? Bruce has driven in 7 of ther last 9 runs scored. Ouch
Dusty will be back, not sure why anyone would think he won’t?
@dn4192: You’re right. Just fantasizing.
Who needs an offense when you’ve got Jay Bruce? Nice night for the pitching staff, Latos hung tough and didn’t crumble when he so easily could have.
I know it’s the unpopular vote, but I like Dusty. He might have some of the worst lineups in baseball, but he’s also got the team with the best record for half the salary that a Bobby Valentine has. Very pleased with his job this year, hope he gets an extension.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Bobby V woiuldn’t fit into this city (maybe the only place he fits in is Japan where they don’t all completely understand the garbage coming out of his mouth).
I’m sure Bochy would be fine though he brings a lot of the same quirks that Dusty has, but he might be surprised how difficult it is to manage without having at least two real aces on his team at all time and while being removed from the weak NL West. How that organization has handled Brandon Belt is very similar to how the Reds have treated Mesoraco so I guess they’d be peas in a pod.
@CP: I was being sarcastic about Bobby V. Rather keep Dusty.
I’m not a big Mes fan and think we traded the wrong catcher. Time will tell and hope I’m very wrong.
Arguing for Bobby Valentine over Dusty may be the most absurd thing I’ve ever read. One guy has a flawed small market team in first place in all of baseball, while the other took the second highest payroll and ran it into the ground. I’m as frustrated as anyone with Dusty’s lineup, but to clamor for Bobby Valentine is foolish.
Why are people talking about a managerial change ? Castellini has already said that Dusty is staying.
@pinson343: Just small talk. Wasn’t exactly an overload of action in this particular game. Should have keep my mouth shut and that is for real.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Eh way too early to tell. I brought up Belt and Mesoraco merely to illustrate that both Bochy and Dusty set young players up to fail. Young studs don’t need to be handed starting jobs, but perhaps old fuddy duddy managers need to provide semi-regular opportunities (for example, Mesoraco catching no back-to-back games).
I wonder if a season spent at AAA would have been more productive for his development? I’m just sky-high on what Hanigan brings to the table. Mes will get his chance before long but it may still be a couple of years. I’m definitely rooting for Devin and you have a fair point even if we may disagree.
Jay Bruce is really carrying the offense right now. Take a bow, Mr. Bruce.
Bruce is in one of those “zones” again. He has put this team on his shoulders for the last 10 games. Since Aug. 1 he has been the Jay Bruce we all want to see consistently.
One positive: Exxon Valdez didn’t let one go right through his legs with the game on the line.
I was nervous in the 8th and 9th. Did not trust a 1 run lead. Thought Rollins might take a Broxton fastball out, he almost did.
With Chapman, was more concerned about Mayberry and Wiggington than Howard. Thought one of them might run into a fastball if Chapman grooved one. Wiggington almost did. Yes Howard’s much more of a threat than them, but lefties have virtually no chance against Chapman.
@CharlotteNCRedsFan: Oh OK. I asked a question, I got an answer.
Chris Welsh: “You can tell by the way Stubbs is swinging at that outside ball that his heart’s just not in it.”
What does that even MEAN? This is a first place team in September with legitimate WS aspirations. If his heart isn’t in it then freaking cut him.
I think what he meant is that his swing wasn’t into the pitch. His heart wasn’t into that particular swing. I could be wrong. It was an outside fastball. Followed by an inside pitch which Stubbs struck out and you could hear boos! I hate to say this but Reds games are kinda boring right now. Nobody is hitting except Bruce. Stubbs followed by Valdez can only happen under a Dusty lineup.
@hoodlum: