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		<title>By: Drew Nelson</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896904</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree, if our big bats produce and Dusty bats Janish 8th I feel we will be fine.  Also you have a better chance of finding a good hitting LF then you do a good hitting SS.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1896252&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896252&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;al&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I just don’t get this thinking. Paul Janish had a .600 ops, and Gomes had an .875 ops. Why is it easier to upgrade in LF? League average for SS was .718, which means “replacement level” should be about .650. That means that random guys in the minors should outhit Janish by a decent amount. Another way to look at it: Paul Janish had a -5.7 VORP, while Gomes had the third highest VORP on the team at 18.6. That speaks directly to who would be easier to replace and improve upon. This team cannot and should not play Janish every day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, if our big bats produce and Dusty bats Janish 8th I feel we will be fine.  Also you have a better chance of finding a good hitting LF then you do a good hitting SS.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1896252" rel="nofollow">al</a></strong>: I just don’t get this thinking. Paul Janish had a .600 ops, and Gomes had an .875 ops. Why is it easier to upgrade in LF? League average for SS was .718, which means “replacement level” should be about .650. That means that random guys in the minors should outhit Janish by a decent amount. Another way to look at it: Paul Janish had a -5.7 VORP, while Gomes had the third highest VORP on the team at 18.6. That speaks directly to who would be easier to replace and improve upon. This team cannot and should not play Janish every day.
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		<title>By: brublejr</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896501</link>
		<dc:creator>brublejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896489&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redsfanx&lt;/a&gt;: I think Cordero to the Braves would make the most sense if they are going to move him...They need a closer badly, I don&#039;t think Philly can take on that salary to have two high priced closers, and nobody is going to take on Lidge&#039;s salary after this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1896489" rel="nofollow">Redsfanx</a>: I think Cordero to the Braves would make the most sense if they are going to move him&#8230;They need a closer badly, I don&#8217;t think Philly can take on that salary to have two high priced closers, and nobody is going to take on Lidge&#8217;s salary after this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Redsfanx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redsfanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d package Phillips in a blockbuster trade (ie. Joe Morgan in 1970) 
to upgrade the offense in leftfield and shortstop and put Frazier at second. Then trade Cordero to the Phillies and move Masset to closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d package Phillips in a blockbuster trade (ie. Joe Morgan in 1970)<br />
to upgrade the offense in leftfield and shortstop and put Frazier at second. Then trade Cordero to the Phillies and move Masset to closer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896367</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah bummer.  Rockies declined their option on Torrealba.  They seem to be committed to Iannetta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah bummer.  Rockies declined their option on Torrealba.  They seem to be committed to Iannetta.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Dafler</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896258</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Dafler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I advocated moving Votto to LF last year, and I doubt we see it happen this year.  I suspect Alonso will eventually be traded to help the major league team.  An internal, short-term option could have been to play Barker at 1B.  

With today&#039;s transactions, the Reds are down to 39 free agents on paper.  Kip Wells hasn&#039;t officially filed for free agency, and Hernandez hasn&#039;t had his option declined yet.  Multiple sources are reporting that Jocketty said he will not pick up his option.  That drops the roster to 37.  

Mark Sheldon keeps mentioning that Herandez is a Type B free agent...but if the Reds offer him arbitration aren&#039;t they stuck with a minimum of a 20% discount to his 2009 salary?  I don&#039;t see why they would offer him arbitration if Jocketty is saying they &quot;definitely&quot; won&#039;t pick up his option.  

I like that they were able to keep Miller in the organization and clear the 40-man roster space.  

I&#039;m not sure how the Lehr deal works.  I guess he has major league money, but has to pass through waivers to go to AAA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I advocated moving Votto to LF last year, and I doubt we see it happen this year.  I suspect Alonso will eventually be traded to help the major league team.  An internal, short-term option could have been to play Barker at 1B.  </p>
<p>With today&#8217;s transactions, the Reds are down to 39 free agents on paper.  Kip Wells hasn&#8217;t officially filed for free agency, and Hernandez hasn&#8217;t had his option declined yet.  Multiple sources are reporting that Jocketty said he will not pick up his option.  That drops the roster to 37.  </p>
<p>Mark Sheldon keeps mentioning that Herandez is a Type B free agent&#8230;but if the Reds offer him arbitration aren&#8217;t they stuck with a minimum of a 20% discount to his 2009 salary?  I don&#8217;t see why they would offer him arbitration if Jocketty is saying they &#8220;definitely&#8221; won&#8217;t pick up his option.  </p>
<p>I like that they were able to keep Miller in the organization and clear the 40-man roster space.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how the Lehr deal works.  I guess he has major league money, but has to pass through waivers to go to AAA?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1896211&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896211&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Travis G.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m looking at the PDF of the updated 40-man roster that accompanied Rob Butcher’s release, and I don’t see his name on there. The text I supplied above was cut-and-pasted directly from his e-mail, so I don’t know whether Lehr’s being outrighted means he’s exposed to waivers right now. I can’t imagine he’s got any options left.Of note: There are only 39 men on the current 40-man roster.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you have seriously underestimated the genius of Larry Beinfest.  Hanley&#039;s value will never be higher than it is right now.  Larry Beinfest will deal Ramirez within the next two seasons.  

The Marlins cannot afford to keep Hanley past 2011.  Hanley makes 7.5 this season and 11 in 2011 (25% of the team&#039;s &#039;09 payroll).  The Marlins are then on the hook for 15, 15.5 and 16.  16 million is approximately 40% of the teams payroll!  

Ramirez WILL BE dealt by 2012.

Given Beinfest&#039;s track record, he&#039;ll move earlier rather than later.  Whether the Reds match up is another question, but Ramirez is on borrowed time in Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="comment-1896211">
<p><strong><a href="#comment-1896211" rel="nofollow">Travis G.</a></strong>: I’m looking at the PDF of the updated 40-man roster that accompanied Rob Butcher’s release, and I don’t see his name on there. The text I supplied above was cut-and-pasted directly from his e-mail, so I don’t know whether Lehr’s being outrighted means he’s exposed to waivers right now. I can’t imagine he’s got any options left.Of note: There are only 39 men on the current 40-man roster.
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<p>I think you have seriously underestimated the genius of Larry Beinfest.  Hanley&#8217;s value will never be higher than it is right now.  Larry Beinfest will deal Ramirez within the next two seasons.  </p>
<p>The Marlins cannot afford to keep Hanley past 2011.  Hanley makes 7.5 this season and 11 in 2011 (25% of the team&#8217;s &#8216;09 payroll).  The Marlins are then on the hook for 15, 15.5 and 16.  16 million is approximately 40% of the teams payroll!  </p>
<p>Ramirez WILL BE dealt by 2012.</p>
<p>Given Beinfest&#8217;s track record, he&#8217;ll move earlier rather than later.  Whether the Reds match up is another question, but Ramirez is on borrowed time in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896252</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1896207&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896207&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drew Nelson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:  We have a good infield with Votto/Phillips/Janish/Rolen why not concentrate on the LF position where an upgrade could help.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just don&#039;t get this thinking.  Paul Janish had a .600 ops, and Gomes had an .875 ops.  Why is it easier to upgrade in LF?  League average for SS was .718, which means &quot;replacement level&quot; should be about .650.  That means that random guys in the minors should outhit Janish by a decent amount. 

Another way to look at it: Paul Janish had a -5.7 VORP, while Gomes had the third highest VORP on the team at 18.6.  That speaks directly to who would be easier to replace and improve upon.  

This team cannot and should not play Janish every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="comment-1896207">
<p><strong><a href="#comment-1896207" rel="nofollow">Drew Nelson</a></strong>:  We have a good infield with Votto/Phillips/Janish/Rolen why not concentrate on the LF position where an upgrade could help.
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<p>I just don&#8217;t get this thinking.  Paul Janish had a .600 ops, and Gomes had an .875 ops.  Why is it easier to upgrade in LF?  League average for SS was .718, which means &#8220;replacement level&#8221; should be about .650.  That means that random guys in the minors should outhit Janish by a decent amount. </p>
<p>Another way to look at it: Paul Janish had a -5.7 VORP, while Gomes had the third highest VORP on the team at 18.6.  That speaks directly to who would be easier to replace and improve upon.  </p>
<p>This team cannot and should not play Janish every day.</p>
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		<title>By: brublejr</title>
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		<dc:creator>brublejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although, outside missing out on Hardy, this works out nicely for the Reds...Brewers replacing Cameron with Gomez, who can&#039;t get on base, makes their offense worse.  This should hurt their offense a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, outside missing out on Hardy, this works out nicely for the Reds&#8230;Brewers replacing Cameron with Gomez, who can&#8217;t get on base, makes their offense worse.  This should hurt their offense a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: brublejr</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896236</link>
		<dc:creator>brublejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe the Brewers traded Hardy for Gomez, basically a younger version of Willy T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the Brewers traded Hardy for Gomez, basically a younger version of Willy T.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNatural</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896217</link>
		<dc:creator>TheNatural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896214&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drew Nelson&lt;/a&gt;: As long as it&#039;s only a 1 year deal with an option for 2011...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1896214" rel="nofollow">Drew Nelson</a>: As long as it&#8217;s only a 1 year deal with an option for 2011&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt WI</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896216</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I live in Wisconsin now. Not a native, but for a couple of years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1896189" rel="nofollow">Dan</a>: Yeah, I live in Wisconsin now. Not a native, but for a couple of years now.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Nelson</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896214</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well will the Reds make a move on Dye now that is he available as the Sox didn&#039;t pick up his option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well will the Reds make a move on Dye now that is he available as the Sox didn&#8217;t pick up his option?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/11/06/design-the-2010-reds-infield/#comment-1896213</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896200&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;: I have no interest in Torrealba, personally.  He had a good year (for him) right before free agency -- to me that would be buying high on a not-very-good player.

When your slash stats for your career are .255/.315/.390 and you&#039;ve played half your career in Colorado, that&#039;s not so good.

He&#039;ll cost millions too, since he&#039;s coming off the .291/.351/.380 year like you mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1896200" rel="nofollow">David</a>: I have no interest in Torrealba, personally.  He had a good year (for him) right before free agency &#8212; to me that would be buying high on a not-very-good player.</p>
<p>When your slash stats for your career are .255/.315/.390 and you&#8217;ve played half your career in Colorado, that&#8217;s not so good.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll cost millions too, since he&#8217;s coming off the .291/.351/.380 year like you mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1896204&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896204&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1896198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Travis G.&lt;/a&gt;: Whoa! So does this mean that Lehr has made the 40-man roster?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m looking at the PDF of the updated 40-man roster that accompanied Rob Butcher&#039;s release, and I don&#039;t see his name on there. The text I supplied above was cut-and-pasted directly from his e-mail, so I don&#039;t know whether Lehr&#039;s being outrighted means he&#039;s exposed to waivers right now. I can&#039;t imagine he&#039;s got any options left.

Of note: There are only 39 men on the current 40-man roster.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1896204" rel="nofollow">Dan</a></strong>: @<a href="#comment-1896198" rel="nofollow">Travis G.</a>: Whoa! So does this mean that Lehr has made the 40-man roster?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at the PDF of the updated 40-man roster that accompanied Rob Butcher&#8217;s release, and I don&#8217;t see his name on there. The text I supplied above was cut-and-pasted directly from his e-mail, so I don&#8217;t know whether Lehr&#8217;s being outrighted means he&#8217;s exposed to waivers right now. I can&#8217;t imagine he&#8217;s got any options left.</p>
<p>Of note: There are only 39 men on the current 40-man roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can also now forget about the Brewers Hardy, he was just traded to the Twins for Gomez their CF.</description>
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