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Time for a recap of today’s titanic struggle….
FINAL
Cincinnati 2
Chicago (NL) 5
WP: Harden (7-6)
LP: Owings (6-11)
S: Gregg (21)
BOX SCORE
POSITIVES
–None whatsoever.
NEGATIVES
–TOS* Simply pathetic.
–Injuries:
Starter Micah Owings left after three innings due to shoulder tightness and right fielder Chris Dickerson hurt his shoulder while diving in a failed attempt to catch Koyie Hill’s eighth-inning triple. Cincinnati already has seven players on the DL….
“Man, Dickerson looks like he’s hurt pretty good,” said Reds manager Dusty Baker, who was obviously irritated. “Micah’s shoulder is barking. Edwin was safe at the plate. Every day there’s a call. Every day.”
Dickerson said his injury reminded him of a torn rotator cuff he suffered in 2006. Owings said he didn’t feel as bad as last year, when he missed most of the last two months with shoulder pain. Both players will be evaluated Monday in Cincinnati.
Owings (6-11) gave up two runs on three hits and four walks — including one to Fukudome with the bases loaded — in matching his shortest outing this season.
“As the game went on, it got stiffer and stiffer and tighter,” he said. “I was missing some pitches by a foot and a half. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do, taking myself out of the game, but I wasn’t going to help by staying in there.”
John Fay thinks both guys are going on the disabled list. I’d expect Matt Maloney to be called up to replace Owings. If Walt Jocketty doesn’t call up Drew Stubbs to replace Dickerson, he is clueless.
Making things even more frustrating, the Reds had a potential rally snuffed out in their eighth on what replays showed was a missed call by home-plate umpire Laz Diaz.
Trailing 3-1, the Reds loaded the bases with one out against Angel Guzman. Edwin Encarnacion tried to score on Jerry Hairston Jr.’s flyball but was called out even though he slid home ahead of center fielder Kosuke Fukudome’s throw.
ETC.
–Tell me about it:
“Man, Dickerson looks like he’s hurt pretty good,” said Reds manager Dusty Baker, who was obviously irritated. “Micah’s shoulder is barking. Edwin was safe at the plate. Every day there’s a call. Every day.”
–As noted in the game thread, the Reds wrapped up an 0-6 road trip, getting outscored 43-20 in their first winless multi-series trip in five years.
–The good guys are now 9 games under .500. Can it get much worse?
*This Offense Stinks.
I highly doubt the Reds call up Drew Stubbs. Then, they actually might have to play him. He might actually prove that he has gotten progressively better year in and year out. Maybe this will prove that Taveras is crappy and we had an in house option? No…. Call up anyone but him.
I didn’t even check in an inning on any of these games. I guess it was good that I was busy during the day.
Ouch.
As ugly as it might get, they might as turn it over to the youth and try to turn over a couple of vets for prospects. I tend to doubt anyone would take on Cordero’s contract, but he would be an ace for a club that needs a closer. That would free up some salary on the payroll and could bring back a prospect or two.
Too bad for Dickerson, this was his chance to show he could be an everyday major league player. Personally I think Stubbs still needs alot of work at the plate and I’d rather he not try to learn at the major league level. That being said, what other choice do they have? Only other logical choice is Chris Hesiey but he only has 25 games of AAA experience. Well maybe Darnell McDonald…maybe he can play great, pass through waivers and get us something in a trade later?
Sorry folks I’m trying to find hope somewhere…
Knowing Baker & Joke-erty, if CD goes on the DL, Harris-ton will be the everyday RF, and Sutton will be recalled to be the 3rd SS. Those Clowns In Charge want no part of calling up Stubbs or Hi-Z, or, apparently, anyone with any real baseball ability. God knows why.
Maybe they’re trying to put together the most Crap-tastic Roster Ever – nothing but utility infielders. Rosales, Sutton, Janish, Harris-ton, and Taveras. (I give Wee Willy honorary membership in this club for ovious reasons).
So, the Reds traded for a pitcher that had shoulder issues last year and has the same injury now?
I would imagine that McDonald will be called up.
What about Lehr?
Guys, you’re not making me more likely to watch.
Chris – I have been the staunchest advocate for new ownership and Walt Jocketty. I think Jocketty is a great GM. That being said, I am absolutely amazed at how quickly the wheels fall off the cart with the Reds teams. The Reds start bleeding and rather than patch it up, the teams under Dusty seem to implode. It all goes back to the blowout loss to the Phillies. They never recovered.
Chris @6 – one thing to watch the rest of the is the development of Votto into a star this season. He could be 1st Reds 1B to hit 30 Hr/100 rbi same year Lee May in 1969, if my research is correct. I find it astounding in 40 years, the Reds at a power spot have had only Tony Perez drive in 100+. Sean Casey get close once, 99 rbi.
Go (2010) Reds.
i meant to type “watch the rest of the year”
And the blowout loss to Philly goes back to the previous Friday nite loss to the Cardinals, coughing up the 3-0 lead in the 8th to Pujols’ grand slam after Homer Bailey had pitched 7 shutout innings.
Then of course tying the game and blowing it again.
For me, that was the worst loss and the turning point of the season.
My guess is that the Reds will bring up Sutton again and put Hairston in RF. It’s either that or McDonald. Stubbs is slumping pretty badly at AAA.
I’d like to see Heisey but they won’t do that.
Lehr pitched today, so the timing would be right for bringing him up to make
his next start with the Reds.
I was driving home and turn on the Reds on XM radio just as the Reds are loading
the bases with 1 out in the 8th. After the walk to Tatum I felt maybe the time had come for the Reds to finally come
back and win a game. Then comes Hairston’s fly ball.
The Cubs radio broadcasters – even without video review – say that EE was clearly
safe. Video review of course confirms it.
The Reds did not just go 0-6 because of bad umpiring, but it seems like they are in hell
right now. If I were Dusty, I would have made a much bigger scene, but I have no idea
if doing that sort of thing helps a team.
You’ve got to have utility players so Dusty can make 4 double switches a game.
This team is headed to last place. We are worse than the Pirates right now.
Lose baby, lose. It’s the only way to get rid of Baker. Boycott Baker!!
Dickerson made a heck of a dive for that ball. That’s why I don’t dive in my softball games, I’d kill myself.
Will Jockerty wake up and put either Dickerson or Owings on the DL, or will he wait 12 days so they can be evaluated?
Stubbs will not get the call. Jocketty is delaying putting him on the 40-man until next year.
I’m not sure I want Stubbs or Heisey called up. The way this team is playing and the way Dusty is managing, it might scare the hell out of them.
It’s sounds serious enough with Dickerson that he’ll have to go on the DL right away.
And they can’t play around with Owings either, in that someone will have to start on Friday.
That would be Lehr’s day to start, I hope it’s him.
I’ll continue to root for the Reds every game (can’t help myself there), and already have big (probably irrational) hopes for 2010.
But a complete collapse and last place might be what it takes to wake this organization up. It hopefully would mean cleaning house with respect to Dusty and his coaches.
Plus, we’ll get a higher draft pick !
Are we even worse than SD ? Stay tuned.
Votto is having an AMAZING season and is a reason to watch the Reds
Someone already mentioned the 30 HR/100 RBI chance but even better
Here are the highest OPS+ for Reds 1B with more than 250 PA in a season
ALLTIME!
OPS+
190 John Reilly (1884)
170 John Reilly (1888)
169 Frank Robinson (1960)
168 VOTTO (2009)!!
167 Klu (1954)
159 Perez (1973)
154 Hal Chase (1916)
152 Frank Robinson (1959)
150 Reilly (1883)
149 Klu (1955)
147 May (1971)
I gets better. Since 1980 only 4 Reds have had over a 160 OPS with at least 250 PA
Kevin Mitchell (1994), Kal Daniels (1987), Guillen (2003) and VOTTO
if Votto stays healthy and keeps near his current pace he will end up with more PA than those 4.
In the history of the Reds a player has had an OPS+ of 160 or greater with at least 250 PA only 20 times
Only 8 of those times did the player have more than 600 PA.
This might sound crazy but even with the time Votto missed he has a chance to have one of the best hitting seasons in Reds history. He’s 11th now and if he can get over 450 PA and stay near his current pace it could be. Sure he’s not going to be anywhere near Morgan’s 1976 season, Robinson’s 1962 season, Seymour’s 1905 season and a couple others but he’s right in the next group.
There are only 5 players in baseball this season with 250+ PA and a 160+ OPS
Pujols (light years ahead of everyone else), Mauer, Fielder, Morneau and VOTTO
Even with the missed time, he’s generated more runs than any Red (I would have guessed Phillips just because of Votto’s missed time)
EQR
54.1 Votto
51.3 Phillips
36.0 Bruce (!?!?)
34.6 Hairston Jr
32.2 Hernandez
Even if we adjust for position Votto has still been better and he plays a huge offensive position
RARP
26.0 Votto
16.9 Phillips
12.4 Hanigan
9.3 Gomes
4.1 Owings
4.0 Dickerson
and this is just amazing, Gonzo, Taveras and Rosales have generated -20.4 RARP
KC is the only other team in baseball with 3 players at -6 or greater RARP
and surprise surprise KC is only 1 of 5 teams with a worse offense than the Reds
Even with the missed time only 5 1B in the majors have produced more than Votto
I don’t think the Reds are worse than SD.
But after SD, Washington and KC it’s hard to find teams worse than the Reds
Baltimore or Oakland?
but it depends on how you look at it. Injuries are someone all teams have to deal with and SD was hit very hard by just losing Peavy and Young and with Peavy, Young, Hill, Giles and Floyd (plus a handful of lesser players) on the DL it’s difficult for me to hear all that’s being written about injuries to the Reds.
and Taveras has been HOT. His OBP is up to .289
get this. It’s ahead of Gonzo!
by the way, what happened to Nix? He vanished
He’s being out hit in July by Taveras??
OPS in July
1.008 Votto
.934 EE (hmm)
.822 Gomez
.800 Hanigan (even though he’s been in a little slump)
.750 Phillips
.678 Hairston
.653 Hernandez
.626 Taveras
.595 Dickerson
.466 Nix
Dusty says every day it’s a call, then give the umps your team and your fans an ejection blow up of epic proportions (I mean a 3-5 game suspension base throwin dirt kickin) or lets have a brawl to end all with a central division team. Give me some fire show me you care! Is Votto the only one willing to stand up and argue.
Aaron, I’m with you. It was time for Dusty to blow, instead he just walks back to the dugout.
And the Cubs looked awfully comfortable in the batter’s box. When was the last time a Reds pitcher knocked someone down ?
Just becasue this team sucks, it doesn’t have to be meek.
Its just so painful to watch. They are going to have to make some major changes for this team to be competitive next year. I was sucked into the preseason hoopla and actually thought this team was going to be pretty decent. Cueto was lights out to start the season. Volquez was coming off a really good year. Harang had to be be better this year (and that would be worth like 7 wins). I think the starting pitching has now become a bit of a disapointment.
The offense is just a disaster. Jay Bruce has become the second coming of Dave Kingman (in a bad season). SS is weak. Encarnacion has been injured. Leftfield platoon either is extrememly weak defensively or can’t hit depending on who is in there. CF has been well documented. Hanigan has been great and fo some reason Baker does not play him.
We are on another 3 year plan comrades.
That’s a bit harsh on Jay Bruce.
But after SD, Washington and KC it’s hard to find teams worse than the Reds…
You mean Washington who player for player has a better all around lineup, or KC who swept us three straight WITHOUT their good pitcher? That leaves us with SD who plays in a canyon.
I don’t know what possible changes can be made right now. Perhaps we just save our money and do some serious spending for a couple of FA’s in the offseason and hope our current crop of prospects will net us a couple of solid players by the time it’s done. Hopefully Nix will gain some consistency and can turn that athleticism into baseball proficiency. I wouldn’t mind him and Dickerson in CF next year with an investment in a serious LF’er. I don’t know. It’s just rather sad
I don’t know how Joey Votto is going to get to 100 RBI’s if there’s no one on base in front of him
anyway I feel like on these Titanic Struggle Recaps we should rename the positive categories “The Joey Votto Positives” since basically every game he’s one of the few positives
I hope they don’t trade for Rolen. It sounds like it would be Encarnacion plus a player(s).
If the Reds want to spend $11 million on someone next year, why don’t they spend it at SS or LF? I don’t know if Jason Bay hits the market or not, but Bay’s .900 OPS would be a huge upgrade over the .692 OPS they’ve gotten collectively from LFers so far this season.
One thing blocking the deal is that they don’t have room for Rolen’s $11 million. According to my math, they have room for him in the budget unless
- they plan to pick up Hernandez’ option
- they plan to pick up Gonzalez’ option
- they plan to spend about $7-9M at other positions in free agency
I’d rather see this:
Hanigan
Votto
Phillips
?
Encarnacion
Bay
Stubbs/Heisey
Bruce
than this:
Hanigan
Votto
Phillips
?
Rolen
?
Stubbs/Heisey
Bruce
Well, if nothing else, this week will be interesting to see if any moves get made. And GregD, I told you in a previous post to please stop talking about Jason Bay in a Reds uniform, it’s too exciting. Chad… if you see this, how about a “rumor mill” thread for the duration of the deadline week?
Greg…do you seriously believe the Reds would consider a run at Bay, with Stubbs, Heisey, and Frazier in the top end of the system? Heck, do you think they would consider a run at Bay regardless?
I agree Greg. Of the holes that we have, 3rd seems the less gaping. Concentrate on LF (corner outfielders really shouldn’t be that hard)and SS. That plus doing the addition by subtraction eliminating the Taveras factor, and hoping Bruce improves, tremendously changes this club. I still think we should look at the Angels as trading partners, if we trade at all. Or we just open up the bank for those positions in free agency. Any solid SS possibilities this winter?
Rolen is not going to do much for our team. Provide a little better defense than EE and while yes he’s hitting better this year, he’s old, gets hurt and his past few years are nothing special
I agree with GregD but I would like to improve SS and try to get either Adrusbal Cabrera from the Indians, Clint Barmes from the Rockies or even Jack Wilson if he’s not too expensive.
I would start the transition for Votto into LF next year to get ready for Alonso. By all accounts Alonso is our best prospect in the minors so unless we’re going to try and trade him for a really good starting pitcher or a very established, very good LF… then we should start making plans for him because I don’t think (injury and all) that he’s going to stay in the minors too long.
However knowing the Reds, he might get some playing time in 2012.
If we could get Bay though, I definitely support that.
Trading for Rolen would be a classic “buy high” move. I’m sick of overpaying for uncreative moves like that, to mollify the pseudo-fans who would say “Ooh, I’ve heard of him! I think he’s supposed to be good!”
The truth is he’s 33 years old and he’s overpaid now.
Let’s “buy low” on someone!! Someone young and talented and athletic who could be part of the next generation team as we keep (slowly) turning the corner.
Heck, let’s “buy low” on someone talented who maybe 95% of us have never heard of before.
For once, I want to see the Reds be savvy and ahead of the curve, not overpay for aging, used-to-be-great players.
Krivsky nailed it w/ the “buy low” Hamilton and Phillips moves. They were perfect. We need more of THAT!
Do I believe they will make a run at Bay? ? ? ? My heart says no. Although I’ve been surprised to see their name in the mix for players like Holliday and Halladay. So they could surprise us. I wouldn’t not make the deal just because of AA and AAA players. Frazier is still in AA and can play the infield. In fact, if the would sign Bay, I’d see him starting everyday at 3B next year as heir apparent to Encarnacion. I think you’ve got to pick one of Stubbs and Heisey to play CF and make the other available for an offseason or July 31, 2010 trade chip.
I don’t think we’ll ever see Votto in LF. Alonso will be moved in a trade when he is ready for the big leagues.
The Indians move Peralta over to 3rd for Cabrera. Unless they have another good prospect in AAA, I doubt they’re moving Cabrera. Your best bet, and right up the Reds low-obp alley, is White Sox SS Alexi Ramirez. They have Beckham playing out of position at 3B.
2010 Free Agent SS
According to mlbtraderumors dot com
Orlando Cabrera (35)
Alex Cora (34)
Craig Counsell (39)
Bobby Crosby (30)
Adam Everett (33)
Chris Gomez (39)
Alex Gonzalez (32) – $6MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Khalil Greene (30)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
John McDonald (35)
Marco Scutaro (34)
Miguel Tejada (36)
Omar Vizquel (43)
Jack Wilson (32) – $8.4MM club option with a $600K buyout
I’m still partial to Figgins. He plays everywhere quite well, he doesn’t mind being moved around and he’s a bonafide leadoff hitter. Not sure what his contract status is, but he would be worth looking at. A utility player who is not a ‘utility player’.
I agree that we cannot count on prospects. I also don’t know about moving Votto right now.
Greg – your list of potential SS free agents drives home a point about free agents — THEY’RE OLD!! Simply by the way the rules work, you almost NEVER find a free agent under the age of 30!
Free agents are for good (and fairly rich) teams to plug a hole.
Free agents are NOT for teams that are many pieces away and building toward the future.
They almost ALWAYS end up overpaid, and at this time of year they’re getting shopped around for low-A-ball non-prospects just to get out from under the $$$ obligation.
well I think then we should try to get Barmes from the Rockies. They have too many infielders with Atkins, Tulo, Stewart and Helton and they need pitching help so why not flip Harang or Arroyo and maybe Weathers or some bullpen help for Barmes and some other young prospects
The key for the Reds is drafting and developing young players well, and “buying low” on promising young players in trades (like Hamilton and Phillips).
Trading for Rolen and signing free agents are not the types of moves that this team needs, at ALL.
the only one on that list I would pay 4million a year for is Wilson
According to mlbtraderumors, the Rolen thing is dead, probably just as well, as many have pointed out. We were asking Toronto to pay half his salary for 2010.
We’re all in agreement that LF and SS are the biggest holes.
Bay would be great, and I would give up a top OF prospect plus Bailey or any of our pitching prospects (except Wood) to get him.
I agree with getting a young SS rather than an old free agent, as we don’t have anyone coming along in our system for SS.
Why on earth are the Red Sox dangling him ? Hey, maybe they’d like to have Arroyo back (not).
Jay Bruce is not Kingman. Most obviously, he plays great defense, we’ve really missed him in RF.
As far as his hitting goes, he was getting fooled and striking out a lot. That will improve. The “batted ball in play” people say he’s had terrible luck this year, and from what I saw, I believe them.
An intellignet analysis (wish I still had the link) still projects him to be a star player with a ceiling of the best player in baseball.
Bay’s contract runs thru when ?
SS is our biggest hole. I think you guys are pulling a Reds organization and underestimating a guy because he was taken late…the guy I am talking about is Chris Heisey. He is next years LF. He will play plus defense in left and the guy can flat out hit. This years average is .339/.407/.553/.960 with 27 doubles, 16 homers, 16 steals and only 50 strikeouts in 96 games (71 in AA and 25 in AAA).
Bay’s contract is up after this year.
Jay Bruce just needs to make better contact, he’s actually improved his plate discipline this year…he is walking more and striking out less than he did last year.
Jason Bay is signed for $7.5 million this year and then his contract runs out. No options that I can see — just a free agent.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/boston-red-sox.html
according to MLBtraderumors.com Yankees are looking at Arroyo
What are the chances Jonny Gomes can be 95% as good as Jason Bay at 5% of the cost?
These are the things the Reds need to keep on finding out — I’d rather not give up 3 good prospects and a few million dollars to get someone who is just a little better than Gomes.
I’m telling you — that Gomes signing was savvy. We need to give that a chance to fully play out.
Pinson, I agree that Bruce certainly has the potential to be a great player. My point was this year is Kingmanesque. I expected a better season than his numbers so far. I know all you stat people talk about this batted ball thing. But I have watched a lot of games and lot of his hit balls don’t appear to be anywhere close to being hits. Lots of popups lazy fly balls. He is better defensively without a doubt.
I think letting Dunn go has really hurt this team offensively.
I agree with everyone that LF and SS need some help.
Scott Rolen would be a stupid move his offensive numbers ARE NOT that great.
I don’t think the Red Sox are trading Bay this year at all… I have never seen that anywhere. I think the conversation on Bay started as a possible FA signing
As for the BABiP thing with Bruce. If he doesn’t come back this year, he will have the lowest BABiP among starters since 1974. He’s been unlucky for sure. Though the article that mentioned that also talked about how Bruce had been hitting popups more than line drives. Still they didn’t think that could account for how horrible it’s been this year
I’d play Gomes, Stubbs, Heisey the rest of the year and see what we’ve got. They’ve got two 40-man spots they can open up for Stubbs/Heisey.
They wanted the Blue Jays to pay half of Rolen’s 2010 salary? Geez. Different ownership, same Reds. Why would Toronto want to pay $10 million for Encarnacion (Edwin’s salary + half Rolen’s)? Obviously, they didn’t.
I’m not looking forward to the offseason moves if they feel that they are in that much of a money pinch already. I have them at $65 million – that’s for guaranteed contracts + option buyouts + 400k at each of the non-million dollar positions.
The Reds lack a leadoff man and cleanup hitter on offense, and they lack a ML SS or CF on defense. They could stand an upgrade at 3B and LF, where they currently employ a couple of butchers. Ideally, they could fill two needs with one guy, but there aren’t many appealing options in next season’s FA market.
There’s no chance the Reds would be willing to meet Bay’s demands, and I’m not sure they should. Investing $100 million-plus in a 31-year-old LF seems dumb with limited resources. (I would invest that in 28-year-old Carl Crawford, however, if the Rays don’t pick up his option.)
There aren’t many appealing options at SS, unless you want to give up a second-rounder to overspend on Scutaro, Cabrera or Tejada.
The best FA options in CF are 30-year-old Rick Ankiel and 37-year-old Mike Cameron, who would be intriguing if either one’s demands fall. The Reds will most likely go into 2010 hoping Wee Willy bounces back to his stellar career norm, but maybe Stubbs or Heisey can win the job (I don’t think either is ready for ML pitching now).
Figgins would fit this team very well, basically filling Hairston’s role, but without all the sucking. Another interesting name is Adrian Beltre, who’s coming off an injury to his non-throwing shoulder that could diminish his market value. I think he’d thrive in GABP.
“Figgins would fit this team very well, basically filling Hairston’s role, but without all the sucking.”
Travis,
You are a wordsmith of the highest order.
I’m definitely a fan of looking at Beltre (or Crawford if we could afford him) but I doubt that we will. I can’t see us doing too much this offseason besides minor things (which basically is the same old story every year)
You guys can keep Figgins and Beltre, if we deal with California and Seattle, send me back Woods and Clement.
Figgins and Beltre are free agents after the season. I can’t imagine either is available now in a trade.
AOL Fanhouse:
The Reds are “sellers” and top club officials spoke on a special conference call Monday morning, an indication to a major league source that the team is “close to doing something,” most likely involving one of its big-money pitchers: Bronson Arroyo, Aaron Harang or Francisco Cordero.
The Dodgers, looking for a veteran starter, are among the teams that have expressed some interest in Arroyo and Harang, but only as a fallback if they don’t get Cliff Lee, the source said [...]
Even though the Reds are apparently selling on this year, perhaps there is still a chance they go after Toronto third baseman Scott Rolen, who is signed for next year. A major league source told FanHouse’s Ed Price that the Blue Jays were sending a scout to Cincinnati Monday to watch the Reds.
haha was just going to put that on here Travis
Reds are about to do something according to MLBtraderumors.com which is basically quoting the AOL Fanhouse
I just don’t get the Scott Rolen rumor. This team needs an All-Star outfielder (maybe we’ll have two someday if Bruce comes along) and an adequate SS. Hannigan can catch for me any day. Third base is a “want” not a “need.”
“the Reds are apparently selling on this year”
…why did the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ program just come to mind?
Tom, I agree. Clement was a name I brought up in the offseason. I would like to see a Hanigan/Clement tandem behind the plate.
I haven’t heard much about Seattle in the trade rumors. They appear to need pitching pretty bad. Their SS options are really weak, too.
haha nice one Preach
Clement is the opposite of what Jocketty is looking for. He wants a RH outfield (or I guess 3rd base?) bat. Clement is a LH-hitting catcher.
“Cash for clunkers” = very funny.
I think (hope?) the Jays discussions are more about Rios than Rolen.
Also, Rob Butcher says:
Today the Reds placed on the 15-day disabled list OF Chris Dickerson (bruised right rotator cuff) and RHP Micah Owings (tight right shoulder).
IF Drew Sutton (#27) and RHP Robert Manuel (#60) were recalled from Class AAA Louisville
please tell me what I’m hearing right now isn’t true
Gary Matthews Jr
for
Coco
You guys see the lineup? Taveras leading off Gonzalez batting 2nd.
http://redsintern.mlblogs.com/
I got it, they are batting crappy people in front of Votto in order to keep his rbi’s down so they can point that out and pay him less money…
Ugh to #67 – another infielder. That’s what they need. Baker put him in RF of a blowout last week, so expect to see him out there on an ill-advised double switch tonight.
Ugh to #68 – where are you hearing that rumor?
Lineup tonight
Ugh Taveras #1
Ugh Gonzalez #2
Tatum still catching (Hanigan’s still hurting?)
Bailey has his work cut out for him.
Hopefully the Padres don’t sweep the Reds again.
I think it might have been discredited now… I’ve just been scouring the blogosphere looking for Reds rumors. Let me see if I can find that rumor
Matthews Jr? Seriously? I would rather have Nix/Gomes any day of the week. This team may not need a top tier closer, but enough people do to make CoCo far more valuable than that. Even as salary relief we can do so much better.
The Angels have 2 outfielders on the DL (Hunter, Guerrero) and a third who hasn’t played in a week with a bad hamstring (Rivera). I doubt (hope) that they aren’t moving an outfielder.
I don’t get the Matthews to Reds rumors anyways. Even with the injuries, the Reds still have 5 options for CF (Taveras, Hairston, Nix, Stubbs, Heisey)
I think Rosental floated the Cordero-GMJ rumor earlier this year, but I don’t see it happening unless the Angels add some valuable pieces.
Matthews is owed $23 million over the next two years, yet hits worse than Hairson (59 OPS+), and Cordero’s very valuable and makes $25 million, with a $12 million option ($1 million buyout) in 2012.
ok looks like that rumor isn’t true (thank god)
I overreacted when I saw it though and so I posted it on here in case anyone else had heard about it. My bad with that lol hopefully I didn’t make too many people as upset as I was when I heard it