Comments on: Game Thread: Brewers at Reds — 2009.07.19 http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/ A Cincinnati Reds Blog | Dishing out hot, creamy bowls of bloggy goodness Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:51:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: AnnapolisRed http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778302 AnnapolisRed Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:43:44 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778302 Fay had a good article about the trade deadline today. I thought he was right on. Fay had a good article about the trade deadline today. I thought he was right on.

]]> By: doktor http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778281 doktor Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:31:31 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778281 South, yep, i noticed that too. perhaps some posters are restraining themselves from ranting online being so frustrated. :grin: i was listening to Doc on wlw after the game and he insists reds should make a move, even if its a minor/platoon type player to help improve the reds. I am fine with that view but from the few offers some callers made about moving a bullpen guy for help, he kept shooting them down. which was annoying as he never offered up any ideas on what players he thinks reds can trade. Now the reds-cursed west coast swing :( . Can they finally break the jinx and move back into contention instead of being on the fringe of being "in" the race. Go Reds! South, yep, i noticed that too. perhaps some posters are restraining themselves from ranting online being so frustrated. :grin:

i was listening to Doc on wlw after the game and he insists reds should make a move, even if its a minor/platoon type player to help improve the reds. I am fine with that view but from the few offers some callers made about moving a bullpen guy for help, he kept shooting them down. which was annoying as he never offered up any ideas on what players he thinks reds can trade. Now the reds-cursed west coast swing :( . Can they finally break the jinx and move back into contention instead of being on the fringe of being “in” the race.

Go Reds!

]]> By: southroadredsfan http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778131 southroadredsfan Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:56:45 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778131 the threads definitely get much shorter since the reds are falling further off the wagon the threads definitely get much shorter since the reds are falling further off the wagon

]]> By: Dave http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778115 Dave Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:45:53 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778115 Would a Alonzo for Yunel Escobar trade be agood one? Would a Alonzo for Yunel Escobar trade be agood one?

]]> By: Matt B. http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778102 Matt B. Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:36:18 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778102 Hernandez needs surgery and is going to miss 4-6 weeks. Tatum, not Miller, though is going to replace him on the roster. Hernandez needs surgery and is going to miss 4-6 weeks. Tatum, not Miller, though is going to replace him on the roster.

]]> By: Steve http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778092 Steve Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:10:36 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778092 Nice win for the Reds. Good enough starting pitching, shut down bullpen for three innings. Solid hitting from different parts of the lineup. Nice win for the Reds. Good enough starting pitching, shut down bullpen for three innings. Solid hitting from different parts of the lineup.

]]> By: Eddie http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778090 Eddie Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:09:18 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778090 Great post Steve. OBP is one of the reasons I really like our outfield prospects, both Stubbs & Heisey have high on-base percentages (Todd Frazier also has a high OBP). Great post Steve. OBP is one of the reasons I really like our outfield prospects, both Stubbs & Heisey have high on-base percentages (Todd Frazier also has a high OBP).

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778086 GRF Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:05:14 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778086 Whatever eventually happens, Gomes has earned a sombrero picture for this one. Whatever eventually happens, Gomes has earned a sombrero picture for this one.

]]> By: RedinFla http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778063 RedinFla Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:53:25 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778063 Hey.. nice inning from D.W******* Hey.. nice inning from D.W*******

]]> By: Steve http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778049 Steve Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:44:42 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778049 <b>OBP vs. RISP</b> To show how much more important on-base-percentage (OBP) is than the much talked about average with runners-in-scoring-position (RISP) here are the latest standings in MLB. Here are the top five teams in MLB in RISP. In parenthesis is their ranking in runs scored, which is really the most important bottom line statistic. 1. Baltimore Orioles (16th) 2. LA Angels (3rd) 3. NY Mets (21st) 4. Boston Red Sox (4th) 5. Chicago White Sox (13th) So you can see that RISP - average with runners in scoring position - is very poorly correlated with runs scored. So the obsession on RISP by those in the media (and some managers, like Dusty Baker) is completely misplaced. Compare that to these numbers for OBP: 1. NY Yankees (1st in runs) 2. Tampa Bay Rays (2nd in runs) 3. LA Dodgers (8th in runs) 4. LA Angels (3rd in runs) 5. Boston Red Sox (4th in runs) As you can see, OBP is extremely tightly correlated with runs scored. That argues for putting a premium on players with a high OBP in the lineup, which is something Dusty Baker seems reluctant to do. BTW, the Reds are 24th in OBP, and 27th in runs scored. 25. Cincinnati Reds OBP vs. RISP

To show how much more important on-base-percentage (OBP) is than the much talked about average with runners-in-scoring-position (RISP) here are the latest standings in MLB.

Here are the top five teams in MLB in RISP. In parenthesis is their ranking in runs scored, which is really the most important bottom line statistic.

1. Baltimore Orioles (16th)
2. LA Angels (3rd)
3. NY Mets (21st)
4. Boston Red Sox (4th)
5. Chicago White Sox (13th)

So you can see that RISP – average with runners in scoring position – is very poorly correlated with runs scored. So the obsession on RISP by those in the media (and some managers, like Dusty Baker) is completely misplaced.

Compare that to these numbers for OBP:

1. NY Yankees (1st in runs)
2. Tampa Bay Rays (2nd in runs)
3. LA Dodgers (8th in runs)
4. LA Angels (3rd in runs)
5. Boston Red Sox (4th in runs)

As you can see, OBP is extremely tightly correlated with runs scored. That argues for putting a premium on players with a high OBP in the lineup, which is something Dusty Baker seems reluctant to do.

BTW, the Reds are 24th in OBP, and 27th in runs scored.

25. Cincinnati Reds

]]> By: RedinFla http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778029 RedinFla Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:29:46 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778029 I know Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Arroyo says thay all want to play well "so they won't think about trading us" -- but do you ever wonder which guys are wishing they'd be traded to a good team (pains me to even type that)? I know Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Arroyo says thay all want to play well “so they won’t think about trading us” — but do you ever wonder which guys are wishing they’d be traded to a good team (pains me to even type that)?

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778028 GRF Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:29:31 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778028 And we relieve Cueto after letting him bat. I understand the sac worked, and maybe it would have been the right play regardless, but it at least says something about the bench. And we relieve Cueto after letting him bat. I understand the sac worked, and maybe it would have been the right play regardless, but it at least says something about the bench.

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778011 GRF Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:21:09 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778011 Great AB Willie, just great. I really am developing a dislike for him that I never had for Patterson. Great AB Willie, just great.

I really am developing a dislike for him that I never had for Patterson.

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1778010 GRF Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:20:09 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1778010 It worked, but we seem to really love the sacrifice over the PH (maybe understandably given our bench right now). It worked, but we seem to really love the sacrifice over the PH (maybe understandably given our bench right now).

]]> By: Matt B. http://redlegnation.com/2009/07/19/game-thread-brewers-at-reds-20090719/#comment-1777999 Matt B. Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:09:10 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=8276#comment-1777999 If a ball goes over 300 feet, it automatically has a chance of going out, according to George Grande. If a ball goes over 300 feet, it automatically has a chance of going out, according to George Grande.

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