Comments on: Another thing about the Hernandez trade… http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/ A Cincinnati Reds Blog | Dishing out hot, creamy bowls of bloggy goodness Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:12:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bill Lack http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1728426 Bill Lack Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:42:39 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1728426 #19) But some of us did question the trade at the time b/c of Hernandez past history (attitude and 2 bad seasons). And Hanigan's doing about what he did in the minors...I'd have had no problem with bringing in a different (read: cheaper) catcher and having a competition, but Hanigan did well enough last year he should have been part of a competition. B/C of Hernandez salary that didn't (and won't happen). #19) But some of us did question the trade at the time b/c of Hernandez past history (attitude and 2 bad seasons). And Hanigan’s doing about what he did in the minors…I’d have had no problem with bringing in a different (read: cheaper) catcher and having a competition, but Hanigan did well enough last year he should have been part of a competition. B/C of Hernandez salary that didn’t (and won’t happen).

]]> By: brublejr http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727412 brublejr Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:38:17 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727412 Yeah trading both of those prospects look like a bad decision now. Hernandez has been alright at times, but not really worth what it took to get him or keep him past this year. They really better not pick up his option for next year...that would be almost as bad as the Taveras signing. :poke: Yeah trading both of those prospects look like a bad decision now. Hernandez has been alright at times, but not really worth what it took to get him or keep him past this year. They really better not pick up his option for next year…that would be almost as bad as the Taveras signing. :poke:

]]> By: AnnapolisRed http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727410 AnnapolisRed Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:37:10 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727410 I think some are going a little overboard on Walt for the Hernandez trade. Some of this is revisionist history. Nobody knew Hanigan would be close to this and our catching situation was dreadful last year. I think some are going a little overboard on Walt for the Hernandez trade. Some of this is revisionist history. Nobody knew Hanigan would be close to this and our catching situation was dreadful last year.

]]> By: per14 http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727405 per14 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:33:52 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727405 Dusty doesn't care. He's got a toothpick in his mouth. Dusty doesn’t care. He’s got a toothpick in his mouth.

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727374 Y-City Jim Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:33:14 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727374 Wonder if Dusty was aware of that? Is he even aware of it now? Will he ever be aware of it? Wonder if Dusty was aware of that? Is he even aware of it now? Will he ever be aware of it?

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727355 GregD Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:56:28 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727355 Lance, on his blog, indicates that this is Richar's major league debut at 3B: <i>The AAA Bats have played 8 different guys at 3B this season....Richar is not one of them. In 731 minor league games, from 2003 to this year, he has played 6 games at 3B. </i> Lance, on his blog, indicates that this is Richar’s major league debut at 3B:

The AAA Bats have played 8 different guys at 3B this season….Richar is not one of them.
In 731 minor league games, from 2003 to this year, he has played 6 games at 3B.

]]> By: preach http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727323 preach Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:23:41 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727323 I really didn't mind the Hernandez thing much. I'm glad we have had his defense at first while Joey was out. Still, you gotta play your potential ROY. I really didn’t mind the Hernandez thing much. I’m glad we have had his defense at first while Joey was out. Still, you gotta play your potential ROY.

]]> By: Travis G. http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727316 Travis G. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:16:35 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727316 <i>Fans were invited to cast their vote for the worst contract in MLB ... For the Reds, everyone picked Hernandez.</i> In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Fans were invited to cast their vote for the worst contract in MLB … For the Reds, everyone picked Hernandez.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

]]> By: Bill Lack http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727315 Bill Lack Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:16:14 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727315 Who was the guy in Ball Four that Bouton said they called "Poor Devil" b/c he never got to play? Who was the guy in Ball Four that Bouton said they called “Poor Devil” b/c he never got to play?

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727309 Y-City Jim Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:12:22 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727309 The Janish banishment continues. The Janish banishment continues.

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727246 GregD Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:41:09 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727246 Hernandez is in today's lineup but no Taveras vs. RHP. According to Fay's blog: Chris Dickerson cf Jerry Hairston Jr. ss Joey Votto 1b Brandon Phillips 2b Laynce Nix lf Jonny Gomes dh Jay Bruce rf Ramon Hernandez c Danny Richer 3b Bronson Arroyo sp Hernandez is in today’s lineup but no Taveras vs. RHP. According to Fay’s blog:

Chris Dickerson cf
Jerry Hairston Jr. ss
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Laynce Nix lf
Jonny Gomes dh
Jay Bruce rf
Ramon Hernandez c
Danny Richer 3b

Bronson Arroyo sp

]]> By: pinson343 http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727160 pinson343 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:58:12 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727160 I mentioned on another thread the that mlbtraderumors.com had a post recently where fans were invited to cast their vote for the worst contract in MLB. At first the only Red mentioned more than once was Dusty Baker. But then bloggers began to post their team-by-team choices. For the Reds, everyone picked Hernandez. As for me, I thought Hernandez was playing pretty well until Dusty tired him out by playing him every day. I felt all along, however, that Ryan Hanigan should be catching more. I mentioned on another thread the that mlbtraderumors.com had a post recently where fans were invited to cast their vote for the worst contract in MLB. At first the only Red mentioned more than once was Dusty Baker.

But then bloggers began to post their team-by-team choices. For the Reds, everyone picked Hernandez.

As for me, I thought Hernandez was playing pretty well until Dusty tired him out by playing him every day. I felt all along, however, that Ryan Hanigan should be catching more.

]]> By: Glenn http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727152 Glenn Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:55:08 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727152 With Hanigan being 29, I think its safe to say that before this year (or at least late last year) very few thought of him as a prospect. If management would have chosen to go with Hanigan and he fell on his face, we'd all be faulting Wj for relying on a long shot like Hanigan as hard as he did. Hanigan's been great. I like the kid, but 28-29 is a little late to make it to the bigs especially with catchers in so much demand these days. Something clicked for him and I'm glad it was with the Reds. Going into this year, there was no doubt the catchers on this team needed an upgrade. They got it but Hernandez came with a huge price tag. With Hanigan being 29, I think its safe to say that before this year (or at least late last year) very few thought of him as a prospect. If management would have chosen to go with Hanigan and he fell on his face, we’d all be faulting Wj for relying on a long shot like Hanigan as hard as he did.

Hanigan’s been great. I like the kid, but 28-29 is a little late to make it to the bigs especially with catchers in so much demand these days. Something clicked for him and I’m glad it was with the Reds.

Going into this year, there was no doubt the catchers on this team needed an upgrade. They got it but Hernandez came with a huge price tag.

]]> By: per14 http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727094 per14 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:06:29 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727094 Dallas, I await your defense of the Hernandez trade that negates the fact that Hernandez costs so darn much and isn't all that good. Dallas, I await your defense of the Hernandez trade that negates the fact that Hernandez costs so darn much and isn’t all that good.

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2009/06/24/another-thing-about-the-hernandez-trade/#comment-1727069 Y-City Jim Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:38:59 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=7683#comment-1727069 I can agree that the Reds needed a second quality catcher but the price exceeds the quality. I can agree that the Reds needed a second quality catcher but the price exceeds the quality.

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