Comments on: Reds get Drew Sutton http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/ A Cincinnati Reds Blog | Still trying to Vote Votto Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:39:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Glenn http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1609320 Glenn Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:03:32 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1609320 On paper, Hudson looks like he could be a useful player. However, I'd sure like to see the team start aquiring some outfielders and catchers. On paper, Hudson looks like he could be a useful player. However, I’d sure like to see the team start aquiring some outfielders and catchers.

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1609247 GregD Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:01:13 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1609247 1) Richar was outrighted; so nobody wanted him --Yeah, I was just trying to figure out who Redlegs was talking about when he said "but how many of these mid-20s infielders with no real position is Jocketty going to keep accumulating". Richar and Castillo were the only two I could figure. 2) Sutton is a useful player…but we need a shortstop; problem is Houston doesn’t have any either --If you're getting a SS for Keppinger, he's likely a backup or he's a difficult-to-project A-ball player that's at least 3 years away. 3) Oh, Keppinger can play shortstop --Depends on what the definition of "play" is. 5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year --He turned 25 midseason, is still 25 (until June 30) and is currently playing in AAA. He would seem to be a utility player at this point, and utility guys tend to break into the league later. 1) Richar was outrighted; so nobody wanted him

–Yeah, I was just trying to figure out who Redlegs was talking about when he said “but how many of these mid-20s infielders with no real position is Jocketty going to keep accumulating”. Richar and Castillo were the only two I could figure.

2) Sutton is a useful player…but we need a shortstop; problem is Houston doesn’t have any either

–If you’re getting a SS for Keppinger, he’s likely a backup or he’s a difficult-to-project A-ball player that’s at least 3 years away.

3) Oh, Keppinger can play shortstop

–Depends on what the definition of “play” is.

5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year

–He turned 25 midseason, is still 25 (until June 30) and is currently playing in AAA. He would seem to be a utility player at this point, and utility guys tend to break into the league later.

]]> By: Matt Steele http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1609199 Matt Steele Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:43:10 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1609199 I don't think Sutton is going to see the big leagues much... maybe as a bench player but he's way too old to be repeating AA. I don't think we were really trying to get too much value for Keppinger... er rather, this is probably the best we could have gotten. It's worked out well for Keppinger though, had a game winning hit and has been able to get a little more playing time than he would have here. I don’t think Sutton is going to see the big leagues much… maybe as a bench player but he’s way too old to be repeating AA. I don’t think we were really trying to get too much value for Keppinger… er rather, this is probably the best we could have gotten.

It’s worked out well for Keppinger though, had a game winning hit and has been able to get a little more playing time than he would have here.

]]> By: Michael Howes http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1608524 Michael Howes Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:24:19 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1608524 >>5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year Agreed. I don't think there is such a think as a 25 year old guy in AA that is very useful. >>6) Keppinger is a couple of years away from making big money huh? Kidding right? He's 29 he's a couple years away from making big money as a McDonalds managers >>5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year

Agreed. I don’t think there is such a think as a 25 year old guy in AA that is very useful.

>>6) Keppinger is a couple of years away from making big money

huh? Kidding right? He’s 29

he’s a couple years away from making big money as a McDonalds managers

]]> By: Steve Price http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1608489 Steve Price Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:52:52 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1608489 1) Richar was outrighted; so nobody wanted him; so much for the public relations slant on the Griffey trade 2) Sutton is a useful player...but we need a shortstop; problem is Houston doesn't have any either 3) Oh, Keppinger can play shortstop 4) How many pitchers do we need again? 5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year 6) Keppinger is a couple of years away from making big money 1) Richar was outrighted; so nobody wanted him; so much for the public relations slant on the Griffey trade

2) Sutton is a useful player…but we need a shortstop; problem is Houston doesn’t have any either

3) Oh, Keppinger can play shortstop

4) How many pitchers do we need again?

5) He repeated AA last year at age 25, which is why his stats improved so much from the previous year

6) Keppinger is a couple of years away from making big money

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1608142 GregD Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:01:18 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1608142 I'd add to Dan's list... -switch hitting -more speed -higher upside? Those 63 extra base hits last year are pretty impressive if he can do it again this year. Doesn't seem that Jocketty has acquired an abnormally high number of infielders. If anything, he's seemed to be a little OFer happy this offseason. They'll need someone to fill the shoes of guys like Keppinger, Freel and eventually Hairston. They'll need one or two of Sutton, Castillo or Richar to come through so they don't have to pay millions for individual bench players. I’d add to Dan’s list…

-switch hitting
-more speed

-higher upside? Those 63 extra base hits last year are pretty impressive if he can do it again this year.

Doesn’t seem that Jocketty has acquired an abnormally high number of infielders. If anything, he’s seemed to be a little OFer happy this offseason. They’ll need someone to fill the shoes of guys like Keppinger, Freel and eventually Hairston. They’ll need one or two of Sutton, Castillo or Richar to come through so they don’t have to pay millions for individual bench players.

]]> By: Aaron B. http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1607934 Aaron B. Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:12:42 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1607934 I mentioned that move with Phillips too. Last year down the stretch, why not? We needed to experiment with this roster especially knowing we had AGON on the books again for 09. Instead they pitched Volquez and Cueto like we were in the playoff hunt or something. I still don't understand what this organization was doing last year philosophically. I mentioned that move with Phillips too. Last year down the stretch, why not? We needed to experiment with this roster especially knowing we had AGON on the books again for 09. Instead they pitched Volquez and Cueto like we were in the playoff hunt or something. I still don’t understand what this organization was doing last year philosophically.

]]> By: brublejr http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1607865 brublejr Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:38:38 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1607865 I Agree with Dan, they should have tried to move phillips over to SS the end of last year or this year...I mentioned that before, but like Dan said...Daydreaming I Agree with Dan, they should have tried to move phillips over to SS the end of last year or this year…I mentioned that before, but like Dan said…Daydreaming

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1607792 Mr. Redlegs Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:00:54 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1607792 Yeah, the bat sounds okay but how many of these mid-20s infielders with no real position is Jocketty going to keep accumulating? Yeah, the bat sounds okay but how many of these mid-20s infielders with no real position is Jocketty going to keep accumulating?

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]]> By: Dan http://redlegnation.com/2009/04/16/reds-get-drew-sutton/#comment-1607719 Dan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:29:39 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/?p=6050#comment-1607719 Sounds great to me! He sounds like Keppinger, except... --younger --taller --more power --more patience --OK, less hitting for average But still... I'm surprised and impressed that Keppinger brought someone w/ this kind of value. Now I really wish the Reds would try Phillips at SS!! (Really, I wish they had tried it last August and September, or at least in spring training), so that, if it works, we can let all these other guys duke it out for 2B! Rosales, Valaika, Sutton... sounds like we've got a fleet of guys who won't stick at SS but who could play 2B. But I'm dreaming... Anyway... strikes me as a good trade. Nice job, Walt. Sounds great to me! He sounds like Keppinger, except…

–younger
–taller
–more power
–more patience
–OK, less hitting for average

But still… I’m surprised and impressed that Keppinger brought someone w/ this kind of value.

Now I really wish the Reds would try Phillips at SS!! (Really, I wish they had tried it last August and September, or at least in spring training), so that, if it works, we can let all these other guys duke it out for 2B! Rosales, Valaika, Sutton… sounds like we’ve got a fleet of guys who won’t stick at SS but who could play 2B.

But I’m dreaming…

Anyway… strikes me as a good trade. Nice job, Walt.

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