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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1391844</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 million for Stormy?  I&#039;m not sure it&#039;d be that high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 million for Stormy?  I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;d be that high.</p>
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		<title>By: George Clooney and the Big Red Machine &#8211; Redleg Nation</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1391835</link>
		<dc:creator>George Clooney and the Big Red Machine &#8211; Redleg Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bill mentioned George Clooney appearing on some lame talk show just because Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan were going to be there. Well, if you&#8217;re interested in seeing pictures of all three on the show, click on through the fold. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: brublejr</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1391766</link>
		<dc:creator>brublejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the MLBTV wil be great during the season.  Right now it isn&#039;t great other than the hot stove show.  I do like getting to see Barry on there too, that is a plus.  If they deleiver what they are talking about in highlights, I will love the channel, no more sitting thru the crap on ESPN.

EE will get 3-4 mil in arb and Weathers will get about 3 mil.

I think this is the make or break season for EE in a Reds uni.  If he performs well, I think he will get an multi-yr extension, if he plays like he has to this point he will be trade bait in Aug, and if he does bad I think his days are done.  

I would like to lock him up to a reasonable extension while he is still young and on an upside.  His value wins over the last 4 years is 6.2 worth $24.9 mil while he made just $1.2 mil.  Last year alone his value in dollars was $9.8 mil.  It would be worthwhile to lock him up around 4-5 years 20-24 mil  while the market is still down and aiming when he will hit his peak years.  Does that sound reasonable for both sides?  It really is an issue if you want job security or try to hit it big on the market which as we see this year can be dicey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the MLBTV wil be great during the season.  Right now it isn&#8217;t great other than the hot stove show.  I do like getting to see Barry on there too, that is a plus.  If they deleiver what they are talking about in highlights, I will love the channel, no more sitting thru the crap on ESPN.</p>
<p>EE will get 3-4 mil in arb and Weathers will get about 3 mil.</p>
<p>I think this is the make or break season for EE in a Reds uni.  If he performs well, I think he will get an multi-yr extension, if he plays like he has to this point he will be trade bait in Aug, and if he does bad I think his days are done.  </p>
<p>I would like to lock him up to a reasonable extension while he is still young and on an upside.  His value wins over the last 4 years is 6.2 worth $24.9 mil while he made just $1.2 mil.  Last year alone his value in dollars was $9.8 mil.  It would be worthwhile to lock him up around 4-5 years 20-24 mil  while the market is still down and aiming when he will hit his peak years.  Does that sound reasonable for both sides?  It really is an issue if you want job security or try to hit it big on the market which as we see this year can be dicey.</p>
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		<title>By: KY Chip</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1391209</link>
		<dc:creator>KY Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CeeKeR -- I&#039;ve got the new MLB Network via DirecTV.  It&#039;s available in HD and right now, it&#039;s kind of hit and miss.  

The &quot;Hot Stove&quot; show (which I suppose will change once Spring Training starts) has provided some pretty good analysis of off-season moves.  They&#039;ve got several &quot;compilation&quot; shows of World Series highlights, &quot;Top 9&quot;, and the occasional show highlighting a particular franchise.  Replays of the most recent Home Run Derbies and some games -- all of last year&#039;s WS, Don Larsen&#039;s Perfect Game, etc.  

What&#039;s really going to determine the success of this channel, though, will be what they do once the season starts.  They&#039;re promising hours of highlights and analysis, plus live look-ins to games in progress every night.  If they can get some live games in addition to all this, it could be a very worthwhile channel this coming season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CeeKeR &#8212; I&#8217;ve got the new MLB Network via DirecTV.  It&#8217;s available in HD and right now, it&#8217;s kind of hit and miss.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;Hot Stove&#8221; show (which I suppose will change once Spring Training starts) has provided some pretty good analysis of off-season moves.  They&#8217;ve got several &#8220;compilation&#8221; shows of World Series highlights, &#8220;Top 9&#8243;, and the occasional show highlighting a particular franchise.  Replays of the most recent Home Run Derbies and some games &#8212; all of last year&#8217;s WS, Don Larsen&#8217;s Perfect Game, etc.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s really going to determine the success of this channel, though, will be what they do once the season starts.  They&#8217;re promising hours of highlights and analysis, plus live look-ins to games in progress every night.  If they can get some live games in addition to all this, it could be a very worthwhile channel this coming season.</p>
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		<title>By: CeeKeR</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1390753</link>
		<dc:creator>CeeKeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious to see the overall arbitration numbers.  Will they reflect the current economy in any way (the way most of the free agent (non relief pitcher) signings have) or will they continue to be pushing the envelope?  If I had to guess, I&#039;d say EE is due for 3.5 million or so in arbitration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to see the overall arbitration numbers.  Will they reflect the current economy in any way (the way most of the free agent (non relief pitcher) signings have) or will they continue to be pushing the envelope?  If I had to guess, I&#8217;d say EE is due for 3.5 million or so in arbitration.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe FSN Ohio televised the Cueto debut. MLB.tv probably had it from the D-Backs feed. I remember it was a midweek day game(pretty much usually the only games FSN doesn&#039;t show) and it was really crappy weather and I&#039;m pretty sure it was a radio only game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe FSN Ohio televised the Cueto debut. MLB.tv probably had it from the D-Backs feed. I remember it was a midweek day game(pretty much usually the only games FSN doesn&#8217;t show) and it was really crappy weather and I&#8217;m pretty sure it was a radio only game.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested to find out what EdE will make in arbitration.  I am just guessing he&#039;ll get around 3 million.  Anyone have an opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested to find out what EdE will make in arbitration.  I am just guessing he&#8217;ll get around 3 million.  Anyone have an opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: GregD</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1390736</link>
		<dc:creator>GregD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not complaining about the list of games, but perhaps they could have ended their series with the last Reds Opener vs. the NY Mets and Pedro Martinez - the 9th inning comeback win in 2005.  That was a great game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not complaining about the list of games, but perhaps they could have ended their series with the last Reds Opener vs. the NY Mets and Pedro Martinez &#8211; the 9th inning comeback win in 2005.  That was a great game.</p>
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		<title>By: CeeKeR</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1390717</link>
		<dc:creator>CeeKeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis:  I&#039;m 99% certain the game was televised because I seem to recall watching it on MLB.tv (I don&#039;t live in an area of the country that gets FSOH though, so it might have been a different station doing the televising).  

On a somewhat related note, what are people&#039;s impressions of the new MLBTV?  I have Comcast and they told me I couldn&#039;t add it until Spring Training time...and that it might set me back 25 bucks a month.  Is it worth that?  Is it worth 5 bucks a month (the other option Comcast claims to be mulling over)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis:  I&#8217;m 99% certain the game was televised because I seem to recall watching it on MLB.tv (I don&#8217;t live in an area of the country that gets FSOH though, so it might have been a different station doing the televising).  </p>
<p>On a somewhat related note, what are people&#8217;s impressions of the new MLBTV?  I have Comcast and they told me I couldn&#8217;t add it until Spring Training time&#8230;and that it might set me back 25 bucks a month.  Is it worth that?  Is it worth 5 bucks a month (the other option Comcast claims to be mulling over)?</p>
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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully I am not alone on those game threads, and hopefully FSOH is going to broadcast them at a decent time.

It would also be nice to see an increased broadcast schedule for spring training games. I am so missing George Grande&#039;s critical analysis.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully I am not alone on those game threads, and hopefully FSOH is going to broadcast them at a decent time.</p>
<p>It would also be nice to see an increased broadcast schedule for spring training games. I am so missing George Grande&#8217;s critical analysis.  <img src='http://redlegnation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Travis G.</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2009/01/17/off-season-semi-reds-and-some-real-reds-news/#comment-1390684</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sort of surprised Cueto&#039;s debut isn&#039;t among the choices from last year&#039;s games. But IIRC, maybe that game wasn&#039;t televised? I work at a TV station, and I seem to remember we didn&#039;t even have a production feed from that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of surprised Cueto&#8217;s debut isn&#8217;t among the choices from last year&#8217;s games. But IIRC, maybe that game wasn&#8217;t televised? I work at a TV station, and I seem to remember we didn&#8217;t even have a production feed from that one.</p>
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		<title>By: KY Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>KY Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, I know this is not a new series, but rather the second season FS has done this.  But I don&#039;t remember as many games from the &#039;70s being a part of the lineup last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, I know this is not a new series, but rather the second season FS has done this.  But I don&#8217;t remember as many games from the &#8217;70s being a part of the lineup last year.</p>
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		<title>By: KY Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>KY Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the news on the replayed games.  I&#039;ll definitely have to set the DVR to catch the games from the 1970s.  I&#039;ve got the &#039;75 Game 7 recorded, but I&#039;m not sure any of the others have been shown on ESPN Classic -- perhaps I&#039;ve just missed them.

Whatever the case, I&#039;m glad to see FoxSports doing this.  Maybe the arrival of MLBTV has woken up some folks there to the fact that showing retro ball games can bring in some viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the news on the replayed games.  I&#8217;ll definitely have to set the DVR to catch the games from the 1970s.  I&#8217;ve got the &#8216;75 Game 7 recorded, but I&#8217;m not sure any of the others have been shown on ESPN Classic &#8212; perhaps I&#8217;ve just missed them.</p>
<p>Whatever the case, I&#8217;m glad to see FoxSports doing this.  Maybe the arrival of MLBTV has woken up some folks there to the fact that showing retro ball games can bring in some viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea, Jim. I&#039;ll try to remember to get game threads up for those games. If for no other reason than to let you pad your comment total, since you are slipping behind in the 2009 race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea, Jim. I&#8217;ll try to remember to get game threads up for those games. If for no other reason than to let you pad your comment total, since you are slipping behind in the 2009 race.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Jim.  When I&#039;m literally starving for some baseball by this time in the offseason, I really appreciate FSN doing this.

Plus, I can pretend the Reds are starting the year at 9-0 ala the &#039;90 team.

That might be the most wins we&#039;ll see before the end of May if they don&#039;t find another decent bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Jim.  When I&#8217;m literally starving for some baseball by this time in the offseason, I really appreciate FSN doing this.</p>
<p>Plus, I can pretend the Reds are starting the year at 9-0 ala the &#8216;90 team.</p>
<p>That might be the most wins we&#8217;ll see before the end of May if they don&#8217;t find another decent bat.</p>
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