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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/12/11/another-view-of-ramon-hernandez/#comment-1298444</link>
		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What some of the fantasy leaguers say of the Hernandez-Freel deal:

Hernandez is a classic &quot;change of scenery&quot; guy.  It doesn&#039;t hurt that 2009 is a contract year for him, too.  He posted a .257-15-65-49-0 line for the Orioles in &#039;08, not too bad for a catcher but also not the 20 HR, 80 RBI form we&#039;ve seen him flash.    I&#039;d like to blame his early-season sore wrist, but the monthly trends don&#039;t fully support it.  He&#039;s 33 in May; will it ever come back?  Don&#039;t look for the ballpark to inflate his stats; both Camden Yards and Great American Ballpark boost right-handed HRs by at least 20%.  But the move back to the NL and the aforementioned factors make him a solid buy.  I can see him sneaking into the top ten for catchers, his strong contact rate boosting his AVG back past .270.

Freel says he&#039;s healthy now, but his hard-charging ways make him a constant injury risk.  He&#039;s not slated for full-time duty currently, but an injury or a Brian Roberts trade could change that.  This year he&#039;s only outfield-eligible until he racks up some games in the infield.  Freel is a guy who&#039;s going to attempt a steal 25-30% of the time he reaches first base, and that&#039;s his value.  He&#039;s a waiver wire pickup you can spot in for cheap thievery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What some of the fantasy leaguers say of the Hernandez-Freel deal:</p>
<p>Hernandez is a classic &#8220;change of scenery&#8221; guy.  It doesn&#8217;t hurt that 2009 is a contract year for him, too.  He posted a .257-15-65-49-0 line for the Orioles in &#8216;08, not too bad for a catcher but also not the 20 HR, 80 RBI form we&#8217;ve seen him flash.    I&#8217;d like to blame his early-season sore wrist, but the monthly trends don&#8217;t fully support it.  He&#8217;s 33 in May; will it ever come back?  Don&#8217;t look for the ballpark to inflate his stats; both Camden Yards and Great American Ballpark boost right-handed HRs by at least 20%.  But the move back to the NL and the aforementioned factors make him a solid buy.  I can see him sneaking into the top ten for catchers, his strong contact rate boosting his AVG back past .270.</p>
<p>Freel says he&#8217;s healthy now, but his hard-charging ways make him a constant injury risk.  He&#8217;s not slated for full-time duty currently, but an injury or a Brian Roberts trade could change that.  This year he&#8217;s only outfield-eligible until he racks up some games in the infield.  Freel is a guy who&#8217;s going to attempt a steal 25-30% of the time he reaches first base, and that&#8217;s his value.  He&#8217;s a waiver wire pickup you can spot in for cheap thievery.</p>
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		<title>By: GregD</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/12/11/another-view-of-ramon-hernandez/#comment-1298139</link>
		<dc:creator>GregD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article on Ramon Hernandez in the Baltimore Sun.  Sorry for the link in this format, but I don&#039;t see the embedded link formatting options on this new site:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.osnotes11dec11002023,0,1881109.story

&quot;I really had a good time in Baltimore. I played my hardest. I gave it my best when I was there. I guess that&#039;s just the way baseball is. You&#039;re here one day, and the next day you are in another place.&quot;...He did, however, acknowledge that it&#039;s nice to get a fresh start with a new team. Hernandez&#039;s defense, effort and conditioning had been sharply criticized during his final two seasons with the Orioles.  &quot;If it&#039;s the blame I&#039;m getting, I got to take it,&quot; Hernandez said, maintaining he felt no bitterness. &quot;If the blame is on me, I can take the blame. But I was trying my hardest. If it didn&#039;t work out, at least I was going to try my hardest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article on Ramon Hernandez in the Baltimore Sun.  Sorry for the link in this format, but I don&#8217;t see the embedded link formatting options on this new site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.osnotes11dec11002023,0,1881109.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.osnotes11dec11002023,0,1881109.story</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I really had a good time in Baltimore. I played my hardest. I gave it my best when I was there. I guess that&#8217;s just the way baseball is. You&#8217;re here one day, and the next day you are in another place.&#8221;&#8230;He did, however, acknowledge that it&#8217;s nice to get a fresh start with a new team. Hernandez&#8217;s defense, effort and conditioning had been sharply criticized during his final two seasons with the Orioles.  &#8220;If it&#8217;s the blame I&#8217;m getting, I got to take it,&#8221; Hernandez said, maintaining he felt no bitterness. &#8220;If the blame is on me, I can take the blame. But I was trying my hardest. If it didn&#8217;t work out, at least I was going to try my hardest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GRF</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis by Justin.   I am starting to come around on the deal, although the defensive stats from last season still concern me.

I think some of the reaction to this deal is motivated by uncertainty over where we are going.  I realize it is too early for the angst filled &quot;what are we doing&quot; post but I thought with the moves we made last year there was a recognition that the core group of players was not going to get done and that we needed to rebuild.  Now we are signing/trading for 30+ year old middle of the road veterans (albeit on short deals that should not handicap us).  I guess my concern is we are building a team ready to hang around 75-85 wins, but without much chance to be better than that.  Hopefully, the moves to come will show that is not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis by Justin.   I am starting to come around on the deal, although the defensive stats from last season still concern me.</p>
<p>I think some of the reaction to this deal is motivated by uncertainty over where we are going.  I realize it is too early for the angst filled &#8220;what are we doing&#8221; post but I thought with the moves we made last year there was a recognition that the core group of players was not going to get done and that we needed to rebuild.  Now we are signing/trading for 30+ year old middle of the road veterans (albeit on short deals that should not handicap us).  I guess my concern is we are building a team ready to hang around 75-85 wins, but without much chance to be better than that.  Hopefully, the moves to come will show that is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: preach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what I&#039;m hoping for Dan. If Hannigan can learn a little something from Hernandez (He did call games for an impressive pitching staff in Oakland) then this could be a long term help to the organization. I imagine that Jocketty has hedged his bets here a little: if Hernandez doesn&#039;t return to form, you still have Hannigan and just change the splits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what I&#8217;m hoping for Dan. If Hannigan can learn a little something from Hernandez (He did call games for an impressive pitching staff in Oakland) then this could be a long term help to the organization. I imagine that Jocketty has hedged his bets here a little: if Hernandez doesn&#8217;t return to form, you still have Hannigan and just change the splits.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we can get, say, 400 AB&#039;s for Hernandez and 300 AB&#039;s for Hanigan, I&#039;d be very happy with that.

Gotta be better than the production we got from catcher last year.

In addition, I think that would set up Hanigan nicely for being the #1 guy (meaning probably 400-500 AB&#039;s) in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can get, say, 400 AB&#8217;s for Hernandez and 300 AB&#8217;s for Hanigan, I&#8217;d be very happy with that.</p>
<p>Gotta be better than the production we got from catcher last year.</p>
<p>In addition, I think that would set up Hanigan nicely for being the #1 guy (meaning probably 400-500 AB&#8217;s) in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You could get below average performers (which is what Hernandez was last year) on the free agent market and let Hanigan get more at-bats.&lt;/i&gt;

True enough, but you couldn&#039;t dump Freel&#039;s contract on the free-agent market. The Reds had to pick up an experienced player at a scarce position, and the junk available on the free agent market is either terribly overpriced or not even worth the veteran minimum.

Most people think Hanigan can be a league-average player as soon as this season, but I&#039;m glad Jocketty&#039;s not betting the season on that assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You could get below average performers (which is what Hernandez was last year) on the free agent market and let Hanigan get more at-bats.</i></p>
<p>True enough, but you couldn&#8217;t dump Freel&#8217;s contract on the free-agent market. The Reds had to pick up an experienced player at a scarce position, and the junk available on the free agent market is either terribly overpriced or not even worth the veteran minimum.</p>
<p>Most people think Hanigan can be a league-average player as soon as this season, but I&#8217;m glad Jocketty&#8217;s not betting the season on that assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: GregD</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it depends if you believe that his defense will improve with a change of scenery.  That is a quick assumption made in the analysis, but if you don&#039;t think he can make defensive (and offensive) rebounds in his performance, then it really isn&#039;t a good acquisition.  You could get below average performers (which is what Hernandez was last year) on the free agent market and let Hanigan get more at-bats.  

We also know that &quot;chemistry&quot; and winning go hand-in-hand.  If the Reds get off to a slow start in April, does Hernandez stay positive or does his attitude affect his performance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends if you believe that his defense will improve with a change of scenery.  That is a quick assumption made in the analysis, but if you don&#8217;t think he can make defensive (and offensive) rebounds in his performance, then it really isn&#8217;t a good acquisition.  You could get below average performers (which is what Hernandez was last year) on the free agent market and let Hanigan get more at-bats.  </p>
<p>We also know that &#8220;chemistry&#8221; and winning go hand-in-hand.  If the Reds get off to a slow start in April, does Hernandez stay positive or does his attitude affect his performance?</p>
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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again Hernandez is not a bad acquisition but is an overpriced one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again Hernandez is not a bad acquisition but is an overpriced one.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Rosenthal, the Reds have an agreement with Arthur Rhodes. 2 years/4MM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Rosenthal, the Reds have an agreement with Arthur Rhodes. 2 years/4MM.</p>
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