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Sources are saying that the Reds have traded Homer Bailey to the White Sox for Jermaine Dye:
A noteworthy one involving the Cincinnati Reds is making the rounds — pitcher Homer Bailey for Chicago White Sox outfielder Jermaine Dye.
A major-league source close to the situation told The Dayton Daily News on Sunday, Dec. 7, “The deal is done and will be announced this week.”
The Reds are in the market for an outfielder and moving Bailey makes sense. The 22-year-old righthander, the team’s No. 1 draft pick in 2004, has not lived up to high expectations and some club officials believe a change of venue would be best for him….
Dye, 34, is a 12-year veteran with a .278 career major-league average after hitting .292 last season in 154 games.
He is a right-handed bat, something the Reds need, and he hit 34 homers with 96 RBIs playing for the White Sox in homer-friendly U.S. Cellular Field.
Anyone think this is a good deal? The floor is yours….
UPDATE: As noted in the comments, the White Sox are denying that the trade has happened…
A source familiar with the talks rejected a report in the Dayton Daily News quoting a “major-league source close to the situation” that a deal to send Sox right fielder Jermaine Dye to Cincinnati for pitcher Homer Bailey “was done and would be announced this week.”
The source said the Reds were reluctant to take on Dye’s $11.5 million salary even though they need a right-handed hitter of his caliber. The source added that the Sox were seeking more prospects besides Bailey, who was 0-6 with a 7.93 ERA in eight starts and was 4-7 with a 4.77 ERA at Triple-A Louisville.
But Bailey remains an intriguing prospect because of his 95 m.p.h. fastball and Sox general manager Ken Williams’ penchant for acquiring top prospects who could benefit from a change of scenery.
Stay tuned.
UPDATE 2: Now the Reds are denying it. Something may happen, but it appears at this point that someone is taking Hal McCoy for a ride with that initial report.
His knees scare me.
Reds fans will regret this trade. The White Sox wanted Bailey big time.
Dye has led the AL in homers since 2005, so even if has a dropoff next season he still should put up decent numbers. I’m skeptical because of what Bailey might be down the road. Ken Williams has developed a penchant for taking former top pitching prospects (John Danks and Gavin Floyd) and watching them develop into top tier starters.
Stupid Reds…
Regret what? Watching his straight 92 mph get tattooed all over AL parks by Miguel Cabrera, Justin Morneau, David Ortiz, Alex Rodriguez, Grady Sizemore, etc?
Chicago Tribune is reporting that rumors of the trade are false.
I hate the trade. I hope the rumors of it being false are true.
ABSOLUTELY NOT! I’m both too drunk and too mad to articulate how bad of deal this could end up being. I guess I’ll have to defer to Jocketty’s track record.
Homer will also most likely run out of options this year, so by 2010 he will be stuck in the majors. Does anyone really see him improving to the point where he can be a reliable member of the rotation by Opening Day 2010?
Such a deal would make no sense. Dye doesn’t make the Reds that much better. Once again, it doesn’t seem as if the Reds can stick to a plan. One minute were are building through the farm system then the next minute we are talking of dealing for the an overpriced bat that will be gone by the time this team can contend.
I think one needs more than 80 innings of work at the MLB level before being able to make that judgment.
Dye is not overpriced at $11.5 million. He’s 2 seasons removed from a .315-44-120 line for Pete’s (Rose) sake…
Dye is not overpriced at $11.5 million. He’s 2 seasons removed from a .315-44-120 line for Pete’s (Rose) sake…
If he produces like that he isn’t overpriced but that was when he was 32-years-old and was his career year. That fact that his outfield range dropped by a significant amount has me concerned as well. But even if he does well, it doesn’t make this team a contender. Does the team have hitters who can get on base before him? Is the defense up the middle improved? This team is at least two years away from contending. Why bring him on board? Are there not better options? Doesn’t this seem like an act of desperation?
Another source is denying the trade:
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Signing a healthy Furcal would help solve both of those problems. The Furcal/Phillips combo up the middle would be electric and a lineup consisting of Dye/Furcal/Votto/EE/Bruce/Phillips (in no specific order) should be above-average. Plus a rotation with a bounce-back Harang, Volquez, Cueto, Arroyo & ? should hopefully have the Reds fighting for the Wild Card…
Also we’ve been rumored to be interested in Hermida from Florida. Trading for him (buy-low opportunity!) and letting Bruce play CF would leave us weak offensively only at C…
I really like this deal. I’m more or less convinced that Bailey isn’t going to be “it.” Dye is on the downside of his career, but remember that he’s coming to the NL and should see a noticable bump from that.
What’s the price on Furcal?
Furcal turned down 5/$35-40 from Oakland.
Jocketty said the rumors are wrong, and nothing is even close.
The Tigers acquired Laird. Thankfully that means he won’t be coming to the Reds, whew.
Oh, and Weathers accepted arbitration.
Probably because he realized no other team is stupid enough to sign him.
Honestly, I bet someone would have taken a flier on Weathers. Despite what the Reds fanbase says, other teams would love to have him in their bullpen.
Plus it’s only one year. It’s not like a three year extension or something.
Yeah, someone would eventually sign him, but not for the money the Reds will now be forced to give him.
Rotoworld’s quote on the Dye/Bailey rumor
“Everyone is denying that there’s any truth at all to Hal McCoy’s report of a done deal involving Dye and Homer Bailey, and there’s no reason to think they’re all bluffing. McCoy was pretty clearly working off some bad info.”
Furcal’s offer was for 4 years, between $9-10M per year. He just completed a 3-yr $39M deal.
McCoy has a fairly remarkable record on these things. He’s not a rumors, gossip and innuendo guy. He doesn’t usually print this stuff unless he’s rock-solid on sourcing. So let’s see how it plays out this week before saying it’s right or wrong.
Also: He could be saying Bailey (as Player A) going to the White Sox for Dye is a done deal, but it would appear there’s other aspects to be wrapped up. Such as, how much money the White Sox are willing to contribute, or other players involved.
You know, the more money the more money the White Sox contribute the more players they get in return.
I think Homer needs to go. Last season in Columbus we watched him run past little kids wanting autographs, to hop in a taxi to go to the hotel. The bus was waiting right there. Change in latitude, change in attitude.
“Such a deal would make no sense. Dye doesn’t make the Reds that much better.”
Even if that’s true, when Bailey plays he actually makes the Reds WORSE. So from that logic, this deal makes a lot of sense.
Homer Bailey is going to end up being dealt. You never know about the stories on him, but there always was rumors that the guy was hard to coach or at least didn’t agree with some of the coaching being given to him. You can pitch at 92 miles an hour in the pros, but it better move and Baileys stuff is really flat.
You never know, the guy might click with a different coach learn a new pitch and be un-hittable, but that is true of a bunch of pitchers.
I’d rather see the Reds try to deal him to someone like the Rangers, who really need some pitching and maybe would deal a younger player like perhaps catcher Jarrod Saltalmacchia.
What is McCoy’s record?
If you read him over the years you’d know.