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	<title>Comments on: On Ken Griffey, Jr.</title>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1204751</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>somebody finally made sense</description>
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		<title>By: Mark in CC</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1202113</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark in CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t believe anyone has irrational hatred of Dunn. What is hated is the irrational love that goes the other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe anyone has irrational hatred of Dunn. What is hated is the irrational love that goes the other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Steele</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1201825</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha wow!  Such unsubstantiated and irrational hatred towards Dunn still!!!! 


I&#039;m just glad you proved your subjectivity by saying you didn&#039;t care about bullcrap numbers.  Well that&#039;s good to know that your opinion is less grounded in fact and more based on your feelings.    

As for the main question here: The Reds do have a bright future.  However I need to see how our pitchers continue to develop first.  Bruce is going to be an all star, Votto is an above average major leaguer.  We don&#039;t have *too* many top prospects ready to make the jump so we need to do something in the free agent or trade markets.

Jocketty has a better idea of this than any of us, but with the exception of a few high priced stars, there&#039;s no real FA&#039;s to make an offer to this year.  

I&#039;m also not sure what valuable trade assets we might have either... so I&#039;m not sure how well off we are.  I think last year at this time we might have been a little bit better off.



hmm now that I look again, I guess this is the Griffey thread... oh well, I feel for him, I grew up liking him.  I know he might go back to the Mariners, though I think it depends on who they decide to make their GM. 

He&#039;ll find a team somewhere I hope.  It&#039;s disappointing that he might never win a WS though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha wow!  Such unsubstantiated and irrational hatred towards Dunn still!!!! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad you proved your subjectivity by saying you didn&#8217;t care about bullcrap numbers.  Well that&#8217;s good to know that your opinion is less grounded in fact and more based on your feelings.    </p>
<p>As for the main question here: The Reds do have a bright future.  However I need to see how our pitchers continue to develop first.  Bruce is going to be an all star, Votto is an above average major leaguer.  We don&#8217;t have *too* many top prospects ready to make the jump so we need to do something in the free agent or trade markets.</p>
<p>Jocketty has a better idea of this than any of us, but with the exception of a few high priced stars, there&#8217;s no real FA&#8217;s to make an offer to this year.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not sure what valuable trade assets we might have either&#8230; so I&#8217;m not sure how well off we are.  I think last year at this time we might have been a little bit better off.</p>
<p>hmm now that I look again, I guess this is the Griffey thread&#8230; oh well, I feel for him, I grew up liking him.  I know he might go back to the Mariners, though I think it depends on who they decide to make their GM. </p>
<p>He&#8217;ll find a team somewhere I hope.  It&#8217;s disappointing that he might never win a WS though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1201693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s almost a lock that Griffey will go to Seattle eventually. He loves it and they love him (now). I don&#039;t see why it wouldn&#039;t be now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s almost a lock that Griffey will go to Seattle eventually. He loves it and they love him (now). I don&#8217;t see why it wouldn&#8217;t be now.</p>
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		<title>By: pinson343</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1201245</link>
		<dc:creator>pinson343</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear that Jr. says he&#039;ll play in 2009. Seattle would make sense in that it might be his last year. I think he could have one or two more productive seasons as a DH and part time corner outfielder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that Jr. says he&#8217;ll play in 2009. Seattle would make sense in that it might be his last year. I think he could have one or two more productive seasons as a DH and part time corner outfielder.</p>
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		<title>By: The Redhead</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200863</link>
		<dc:creator>The Redhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark in CC -- Nice to know somebody agrees with my opinion...which of course is right!
I certainly enjoyed watching the Reds play more after the &quot;the big guns&quot; ....er...&quot;water pistols&quot;, were gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark in CC &#8212; Nice to know somebody agrees with my opinion&#8230;which of course is right!<br />
I certainly enjoyed watching the Reds play more after the &#8220;the big guns&#8221; &#8230;.er&#8230;&#8221;water pistols&#8221;, were gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griffey&#039;s poor showing still had him post a 101 OPS+ this season. He could still be productive for a couple more years if healthy. He just better be ready for less than impressive salary offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffey&#8217;s poor showing still had him post a 101 OPS+ this season. He could still be productive for a couple more years if healthy. He just better be ready for less than impressive salary offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Blah, blah, blah…Dunn. Blah, blah, blah..Dunn. Who gives a crap anymore. He didn’t help us win…and the D-backs didn’t get in the playoffs with the addition of his “big bat”.
And I don’t wanna see any bullcrap numbers run out here…he was a slacker, he did not hustle, he sucked at defense, and I’m glad he’s gone!!&lt;/em&gt;

Babe Ruth couldn&#039;t have helped this team win. The 2005 Reds were one of the best offense in team history but the pitching was so pathetic that the team still couldn&#039;t hit .500.

Babe Ruth couldn&#039;t have helped the Diamondbacks&#039; offense either. A corpse batting behind Dunn would have been more effective than Reynolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Blah, blah, blah…Dunn. Blah, blah, blah..Dunn. Who gives a crap anymore. He didn’t help us win…and the D-backs didn’t get in the playoffs with the addition of his “big bat”.<br />
And I don’t wanna see any bullcrap numbers run out here…he was a slacker, he did not hustle, he sucked at defense, and I’m glad he’s gone!!</em></p>
<p>Babe Ruth couldn&#8217;t have helped this team win. The 2005 Reds were one of the best offense in team history but the pitching was so pathetic that the team still couldn&#8217;t hit .500.</p>
<p>Babe Ruth couldn&#8217;t have helped the Diamondbacks&#8217; offense either. A corpse batting behind Dunn would have been more effective than Reynolds.</p>
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		<title>By: GregD</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200334</link>
		<dc:creator>GregD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we should dump Harang and Arroyo, too?  Harang was here nearly as long as Dunn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we should dump Harang and Arroyo, too?  Harang was here nearly as long as Dunn.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in CC</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200319</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark in CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether it is fair, or whether they were better is a matter of conjecture but I do know they were more enjoyable and entertaining to watch after the two big guns were traded away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it is fair, or whether they were better is a matter of conjecture but I do know they were more enjoyable and entertaining to watch after the two big guns were traded away.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200304</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bull.  Anybody that didn&#039;t help us win, was a a part of why we lost. Anybody and everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bull.  Anybody that didn&#8217;t help us win, was a a part of why we lost. Anybody and everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: GregD</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200291</link>
		<dc:creator>GregD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t &quot;help us win&quot; but he&#039;s not the reason the Reds lost either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t &#8220;help us win&#8221; but he&#8217;s not the reason the Reds lost either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in CC</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark in CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redhead: Harsh, but right on.</description>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200277</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even after he&#039;s gone, the subject Dunn always seems to dominate the conversation.  He&#039;s gone and he&#039;s not coming back to Cincy.  Now its all just needless controversy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even after he&#8217;s gone, the subject Dunn always seems to dominate the conversation.  He&#8217;s gone and he&#8217;s not coming back to Cincy.  Now its all just needless controversy.</p>
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		<title>By: Redhead</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/10/14/on-ken-griffey-jr-2/#comment-1200167</link>
		<dc:creator>Redhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah, blah, blah...Dunn.  Blah, blah, blah..Dunn.  Who gives a crap anymore.  He didn&#039;t help us win...and the D-backs didn&#039;t get in the playoffs with the addition of his &quot;big bat&quot;.  
And I don&#039;t wanna see any bullcrap numbers run out here...he was a slacker, he did not hustle, he sucked at defense, and I&#039;m glad he&#039;s gone!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah, blah, blah&#8230;Dunn.  Blah, blah, blah..Dunn.  Who gives a crap anymore.  He didn&#8217;t help us win&#8230;and the D-backs didn&#8217;t get in the playoffs with the addition of his &#8220;big bat&#8221;.<br />
And I don&#8217;t wanna see any bullcrap numbers run out here&#8230;he was a slacker, he did not hustle, he sucked at defense, and I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s gone!!</p>
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